Ccfcisparks
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He resigned to go to Madrid
He resigned to go to MadridThat’s fair, why was he sacked? Assumed he was part of the doom spiral at that club.
Is that the sun literally shining out of Harry's arse?Day after Robins is sacked, CBS Arena...
Secretary: Doug, there are a couple of gentlemen in your office. They said you'd be expecting them.
Opens door...
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Completely mental take. If we do get him you'd have to be GIMOC level conspiracy theorist to think that's the reason.Are you in the same thread as me? Because everything is saying is get frank as a favour to a mate.
Top 4 for Chelsea would be the very lowest of their expectations.How do you define average?
A Top 4 finish in the Prem and finals in the Championship playoffs and in the FA Cup is hardly average for a Championship team hiring a manager.
I like Carsley, however, he’s the only ‘viable’ candidate that hasn’t applied as far as we know. No major media source has reported Carsley as applied for the role. In any case, he has no club experience.
With RVN, he may have applied but by all accounts is waiting for a Prem job / Burnley so I’m sceptical if he even wants to be our manager.
Therefore, if not Carsley or RVN, who else is more qualified than Lampard? With Lampard, it’s a great opportunity to really resurrect his career as a promising young English manager.
Completely mental take. If we do get him you'd have to be GIMOC level conspiracy theorist to think that's the reason.
That’s fair, why was he sacked? Assumed he was part of the doom spiral at that club.
Using this logic we would not have taken Robins back for a second time would we ??Top 4 for Chelsea would be the very lowest of their expectations.
It's relative. The squad he had was stronger than that of all but a few of the rivals.
I just checked the results for them against the other 3 teams in the top four for that season: W 1 D 0 L 5. He was then sacked quickly the next season with them in mid table.also sacked in his second season with Everton with them 19th.
I'm not sure why I (or anyone) have to have an alternative if thinking this appointment (if it happens) is poor. I don't have a network across the football world telling me who's interested / available / feasible. I' d be looking for an up coming progressive appointment, though, and I don't think Lampard's that. He was a good player, that's it.
Heartwarming stuff. Sounds like you'll be giving the new guy quite bit more support than you gave the old one?
I think you've lost it a little bit here.Why? Family friend. No reason he should be in the running with his record. And you know ITKs on both sides saying it’s the case.
At some point your desperation to not feel like sacking robins was a fuck yo is the conspiracy. The idea we’ve got a dumbass chairman being advised by chancers seems the most likely.
Difference there is they were both given the opportunity in league one with relatively well budgeted sides for that level. We are a level above that.I’d be happier I think to go with a Kieran McKenna/Chris Davies type, worked as a coach, under the radar, young, and giving them their first head coach responsibility and the ‘project’, rather than going with the ‘name’ that has got nothing on Robins in terms of achievements.
just smacks of ‘owner who knows nothing about football appoints big name footballer he has heard of’
of course we all want it to work out if it happens, I just don’t know what Doug wants? Does he want stability and success or does he want headlines? Cos they don’t win you trophies.
I genuinely don't understand this comment.Using this logic we would not have taken Robins back for a second time would we ??
I think you've lost it a little bit here.
I don't have desperation to prove anything because unlike most on here as i give my opinions as things stand rather than tie myself in knots. It's really not my fault the owner happened to agree with my take that Robins was done.
I really haven't but crack on.I think when you’re claiming with a straight face this was the best appointment on the table you’ve already tied yourself in knots.
We do need to be balanced on FL
His season at Derby was a success ( losing in play off final ) and his first spell at Chelsea a success ( 4th in Premier League and fA Cuo Final.
Everton was a disaster, as it has been for many more proven managers than FL.
Chelsea was a disaster but FL has admitted he was shocked at the poor attitudes of the players when he arrived.
I suspect if it is FL he will be very hungry to prove himself and that’s no bad thing.
My point is most managers that Championship clubs attract have failed somewhere.I genuinely don't understand this comment.
We were at rock bottom when appointing Robins. Plus he actually had a good record managing teams against the odds (only really underwhelmed at Huddersfield) and most importantly, had had a promising stint with us. There's no similarity at all.
My point is most managers that Championship clubs attract have failed somewhere.
Robins finished 18th at Barnsley before he left
He avoided relegation at Huddersfield on the last game of the season
He was sacked by Scunthorpe when they were just 6 points above the relegation Zone.
He then had over a year out of the game before he rejoined us. Hardly the appointment of dreams.
He went on too be absolutely brilliant for us.
1. I was shocked but not surprised by the Robins sacking. Tbh the timing of it seemed weird and after wins vs Luton and Middlesbrough it seemed that the owner’s itchy finger was going to be exercised after the next defeat wherever it was.
2. I thought that King’s defence of his position at the fans forum and later on TalkSPORT rang very true. His diagnosis of our performances since the fa cup quarter final last year was exactly in line with many conversations I’ve had with fellow fans - including those on here. Setting the record straight on why the coaching structure was reformed and the danger posed to Robins if the club couldn’t recruit a new first team coach (and to be fair they *did* readvertise in order to try and bring someone in) meant that I was reconciled with King’s thinking. The only caveat being that he had to get the appointment right.
3) critical to that vision was the appointment of a new Head Coach rather than manager and the possible introduction of a Sporting Director. We seemed to have an interesting set of big names interested, and were being linked with intriguing coach possibilities from the lower leagues.
4) Now if we are to appoint Lampard, I want to know what that means for the above. The set-out vision of a head coach doesn’t run true if Lampard has the final say over transfers and brings in his own first team coach (Morris) to work under him. On the transfer front I wonder if one of the things that turned King against Robins was the desperation to recruit EMC, the public moaning that he was loaned back rather than being brought in directly in January, and then the failure (and possible unwillingness) to find a viable role for him this season.
I’ll support whoever the manager is - I even wanted Boothroyd to do well although I feared he’d be terrible (he was). Nevertheless, there’s some significant reverse ferreting going on if we make Lampard the coach after what has been said this past 7 days.
Robins had the final say on incoming players the new head coach will have the same.1. I was shocked but not surprised by the Robins sacking. Tbh the timing of it seemed weird and after wins vs Luton and Middlesbrough it seemed that the owner’s itchy finger was going to be exercised after the next defeat wherever it was.
2. I thought that King’s defence of his position at the fans forum and later on TalkSPORT rang very true. His diagnosis of our performances since the fa cup quarter final last year was exactly in line with many conversations I’ve had with fellow fans - including those on here. Setting the record straight on why the coaching structure was reformed and the danger posed to Robins if the club couldn’t recruit a new first team coach (and to be fair they *did* readvertise in order to try and bring someone in) meant that I was reconciled with King’s thinking. The only caveat being that he had to get the appointment right.
3) critical to that vision was the appointment of a new Head Coach rather than manager and the possible introduction of a Sporting Director. We seemed to have an interesting set of big names interested, and were being linked with intriguing coach possibilities from the lower leagues.
4) Now if we are to appoint Lampard, I want to know what that means for the above. The set-out vision of a head coach doesn’t run true if Lampard has the final say over transfers and brings in his own first team coach (Morris) to work under him. On the transfer front I wonder if one of the things that turned King against Robins was the desperation to recruit EMC, the public moaning that he was loaned back rather than being brought in directly in January, and then the failure (and possible unwillingness) to find a viable role for him this season.
I’ll support whoever the manager is - I even wanted Boothroyd to do well although I feared he’d be terrible (he was). Nevertheless, there’s some significant reverse ferreting going on if we make Lampard the coach after what has been said this past 7 days.
Meeting expectations is not a bad thing thing. Considering Chelsea had lost Hazard and were under a transfer embargo, that 4th place finish was respectable, he developed a big crop of talented players that raised significant sums of money for their FFP.Top 4 for Chelsea would be the very lowest of their expectations.
It's relative. The squad he had was stronger than that of all but a few of the rivals.
I just checked the results for them against the other 3 teams in the top four for that season: W 1 D 0 L 5. He was then sacked quickly the next season with them in mid table.also sacked in his second season with Everton with them 19th.
I'm not sure why I (or anyone) have to have an alternative if thinking this appointment (if it happens) is poor. I don't have a network across the football world telling me who's interested / available / feasible. I' d be looking for an up coming progressive appointment, though, and I don't think Lampard's that. He was a good player, that's it.
Agree with a lot of that but pretty sure during the forum they indicated Robins had final say over transfers with the comment that he’s the one who’s got to work with the new players. I presume this would be the same whoever came in
You didn't just give an opinion about Robins' tactics. You gave him nine league games after appointing his new coaching team before posting a thread called "Robins has to go" on 5th October. If you look at the reactions, it was really divisive. But now you are calling for unity and saying the SBA will back the new head coach and the team. I'm just pointing out the double standards.Robins in my opinion was exposed tactically. I’m not the only one to say it. It might be very different for him if he had Adi by his side but who knows. He’s gone so need to accept that.
Robins had the final say on incoming players the new head coach will have the same.
It's so strange.Some embarrassing reactions on here over night again.
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