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Mucca Mad Boys

Mucca Mad Boys

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Sky Blue Goblin said:
He came second with PSV.
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Why did he leave PSV, out of curiosity? I was under the impression he didn’t fancy being a number 1.

I live with Burnley fan and he was telling me RVN was their main target in the summer before hiring Parker at the last minute - who is under pressure atm (apparently their football is awful).

RVN will probably hold out for a better job to be honest.
 
Grendel

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Viktor17 said:
Exactly this - top 2 probably Leeds and SU.

Then you've got absolute bun fight for top 4 - no one is running away, look at Sunderland last week, bang average to me.

However, we do need to start putting run together quick sharp. Fixtures after Burnley are quite kind for new manager also.
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Sheff Weds have the same odds as us - we will have to get 2 points a game on average to have a chance
 
Offhegoes

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The way this has played out, points towards Carsley for me.

He would have had a commitement for the Nov England U21s games, so it couldn't be announced before then.

No way King sacks Robins without a target lined up.

King said he had to take action now (sacking Robins), but then leaves the team in the hands of Rhys Carr for a number of games, as he wants to take his time to get the right candidate. He's contradicting himself there.

Addtionaly, Carsley's response to the question about the Cov job, was telling. "I have a job to do here" - Standard swerving of the question.
 
JimmyHillsbeard

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Mucca Mad Boys said:
Why did he leave PSV, out of curiosity? I was under the impression he didn’t fancy being a number 1.

I live with Burnley fan and he was telling me RVN was their main target in the summer before hiring Parker at the last minute - who is under pressure atm (apparently their football is awful).

RVN will probably hold out for a better job to be honest.
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Fell out with players and coaching staff. Left citing a “lack of support” after the coaches/owners announced they would be reviewing arrangements at the end of the season

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Van Nistelrooij vertrekt per direct als trainer PSV wegens gebrek aan steun

Ruud van Nistelrooij vertrekt per direct als trainer bij PSV. De oud-spits voelt onvoldoende steun binnen de club en heeft woensdag na verschillende interne gesprekken zelf besloten op te stappen.
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peteCCFC

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Offhegoes said:
The way this has played out, points towards Carsley for me.

He would have had a commitement for the Nov England U21s games, so it couldn't be announced before then.

No way King sacks Robins without a target lined up.

King said he had to take action now (sacking Robins), but then leaves the team in the hands of Rhys Carr for a number of games, as he wants to take his time to get the right candidate. He's contradicting himself there.

Addtionaly, Carsley's response to the question about the Cov job, was telling. "I have a job to do here" - Standard swerving of the question.
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Not really if he was genuine when he said he didn't want to be talking to a replacement while Robins was still here. Firing him when he did gave him 2-3 weeks to talk to interested parties before our next game.
 
rob9872

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I mentioned before that I was led to believe Carsley was one of the only two actually spoken with, what I can't understand is why the odds are now suddenly much shorter whilst he's with England. He clearly can't have had any more discussions in that time or it would be widely reported and rightly his focus will be on England. I can only assume it's the bookies running scared of their short price on Lampard with no movement and no real reason as to why there would be a delay, so reducing their risk on likely alternates.
 
rob9872

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Really wouldn’t want Carsley to be quite honest.
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Based on what? Whilst the club connection is nice, that's not really important, but he is highly regarded in the game as a very good coach and the reason England were looking at him. I think the off-field media stuff isn't really him and why ultimately after the Greece result, they pushed elsewhere. For our 'head coach' role I think he's a perfect fit. A tracksuit manager who gets involved with the actual training and a DoF to look after the other stuff.
 
Mucca Mad Boys

Mucca Mad Boys

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Really wouldn’t want Carsley to be quite honest.
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I don’t think he’d leave England for a Championship role. He’s still on a pathway to become Number 1 in the future.

The concern I’d have for Carsley is that whilst he’s a good coach, how does he go about recruiting and building a squad? It’s a culture shock from international management.
 
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rob9872 said:
Based on what? Whilst the club connection is nice, that's not really important, but he is highly regarded in the game as a very good coach and the reason England were looking at him. I think the off-field media stuff isn't really him and why ultimately after the Greece result, they pushed elsewhere. For our 'head coach' role I think he's a perfect fit. A tracksuit manager who gets involved with the actual training and a DoF to look after the other stuff.
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He has no real experience of club management and has mostly worked with the U21s where there’s no real expectations on him. He’d be learning quite a lot on the job.
 
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rob9872

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
He has no real experience of club management and has mostly worked with the U21s where there’s no real expectations on him. He’d be learning quite a lot on the job.
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Apart from journeymen on the merry-go-round I think that's true of most. Certainly RVN doesnt have lots of experience and Matt Bloomfield is only 40 with almost his whole career at Wycombe. Nobody with genuine good experience linked really so I think someone who will learn is fine. Especially if we use this season to learn and the model does seem to be about improving young players.
 
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Offhegoes said:
The way this has played out, points towards Carsley for me.

He would have had a commitement for the Nov England U21s games, so it couldn't be announced before then.

No way King sacks Robins without a target lined up.

King said he had to take action now (sacking Robins), but then leaves the team in the hands of Rhys Carr for a number of games, as he wants to take his time to get the right candidate. He's contradicting himself there.

Addtionaly, Carsley's response to the question about the Cov job, was telling. "I have a job to do here" - Standard swerving of the question.
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Standard swerving of the question appears to be Carlseys signature move to most questions. Was tying himself in knots trying to avoid questions about the England manager position before it was given to Tuchel.
 
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rob9872 said:
Apart from journeymen on the merry-go-round I think that's true of most. Certainly RVN doesnt have lots of experience and Matt Bloomfield is only 40 with almost his whole career at Wycombe. Nobody with genuine good experience linked really so I think someone who will learn is fine. Especially if we use this season to learn and the model does seem to be about improving young players.
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Yes and if he gets things wrong while trying to learn on the job we end up in League 1. We don’t have much room for error in getting this right.
 
rob9872

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Yes and if he gets things wrong while trying to learn on the job we end up in League 1. We don’t have much room for error in getting this right.
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we could take anyone and end up League one though. Arguably with MR too although I dont think he would or the others. I know it's a bit of a cliche, but I do believe we are too good to go down and that xG is a pretty good indicator.
 
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rob9872 said:
we could take anyone and end up League one though. Arguably with MR too although I dont think he would or the others. I know it's a bit of a cliche, but I do believe we are too good to go down and that xG is a pretty good indicator.
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Nobody is too good to go down, and conceding goals you shouldn’t while missing chances you should score is how it happens.

It needs more than a rookie to club management.
 
ccfcchris

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Viktor17 said:
Exactly this - top 2 probably Leeds and SU.

Then you've got absolute bun fight for top 4 - no one is running away, look at Sunderland last week, bang average to me.

However, we do need to start putting run together quick sharp. Fixtures after Burnley are quite kind for new manager also.
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Sunderland flatter to deceive. I don't think they'll make the top 2
 
ceetee

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Mucca Mad Boys said:
I don’t think he’d leave England for a Championship role. He’s still on a pathway to become Number 1 in the future.

The concern I’d have for Carsley is that whilst he’s a good coach, how does he go about recruiting and building a squad? It’s a culture shock from international management.
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He identifies the shortcomings in the squad and the recruitment team do the rest.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys said:
I don’t think he’d leave England for a Championship role. He’s still on a pathway to become Number 1 in the future.

The concern I’d have for Carsley is that whilst he’s a good coach, how does he go about recruiting and building a squad? It’s a culture shock from international management.
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The England U21 job is a bit of a managerial graveyard tbh. Very few people go on to achieve much at all after leaving the role.
 
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