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Not sure about the injury but you do take my point about the un-balanced squad. That's the point I was trying to make all along.
Saying "we need a wide player" isn't really the same as putting all the blame on Beavon is it like it started out with.
Hasn't Beavon been injured also?
You play it to his feet for starters and not miles over his head like has happened everytime he has come on this season. You play him in behind / in the channels.
He is a clever player, he's actually ideal for when we are holding onto a lead and you want the ball to stick or somebody to help manage the game.
Not sure about the injury but you do take my point about the un-balanced squad. That's the point I was trying to make all along.
Please do tell me Beavon is not under contract until 2019
I'd ask why a squad place and wage were being invested in Beavon who appears to add nothing.
He is ok with his back to goal but the last of his pace has gone and he doesn’t score so in a team that struggles to score he is a passenger when they brought him on at Morecambe it was embarrassing
Yeah which is what I addressed in the first line. You play to their strengths.
You don't take Biamou off and put Beavon on and not adjust the way we play to suit the change.
Ponticelli has also looked a passenger in games, we know if you put him clean through or give him service he will score. We have brought him on and still tried to play the long ball to him.
We can't let him go, he has a contract for 2 years (well, 1 and a half now). It will take a payoff....
The same as we can't just stop paying Andreu because he got injured to get somebody else in.
When we have played Beavon this year, we have never adjusted the style to suit. That's not saying he is Messi, it's saying it was pretty pointless.
Why? He probably would have been on the bench more if not injured.Then at least loan him out and get him competitive game time.
Why? He probably would have been on the bench more if not injured.
It's as if you quoted me but didn't actually read it.Because then we might not have to pay all his wages to play reserve football.
Point remains....by definition, it's ain't a "full and frank" discussion if some topics are off limits.
I think we're all just asking "why can't we perform well each game, and coast this poor division ? It's always one step forward with us then two steps back. We say it's because of this,or because of that, but never get to the root cause. Yes SISU have caused us so much shit that just the mention of their name brings me out in a rage, but as all football fans know only too well once the game gets underway players as professionals should know what to do irrespective of matters off the pitch, and at times our lot come up short.
I thought everyone was embarrassing at Morecambe weren't they?He is ok with his back to goal but the last of his pace has gone and he doesn’t score so in a team that struggles to score he is a passenger when they brought him on at Morecambe it was embarrassing
It's as if you quoted me but didn't actually read it.
I thought everyone was embarrassing at Morecambe weren't they?
He was just about the worst
Wouldn't say that, there were plenty worse. Nazon didn't even want to be on the pitch.
It was another case of being done by simple football where everybody knew their role.
I was pretty clear from the start, some on here are so slow I had to make the point in several different forms of words. We're wasting a squad place on a striker who doesn't play or score, what are you missing?Yeah of course it was.
I give up. See you in the match thread.But not a productive point. You are either prepared to pull together one and all; or not. You are advocating some people are better than the squad. Individuals don't win games over a season or lose them.
It's not irrelevant because if we had a player in the squad who actually contributed something then maybe we could have fielded that player and they could have made a difference to the dynamic of the team and thus the performance and thus the result. It's not pointing the finger at Beavon, it's point the finger at the squad management that seems to allow for hanger-on in the squad who take up a valuable slot in the squad.
Not sure about the injury but you do take my point about the un-balanced squad. That's the point I was trying to make all along.
You're probably not wrong but it's what he is doing for US on the pitch NOW that matters and that's nothing. Hence the feedback from the discussion that failures in squad management have led to an imbalanced squad and this has had a knock-on effect in performances; Beavon and our non-existent winger is the classic example. Not having a go at Beavon personally but he does typify the problem. As do the two loanees who do not appear to be up to much.Are you with him in training everyday? What do you know what he does or doesn't bring to training everyday or to the dressing room? He achieved a couple of promotions at Burton been there and done it. You approach our squad like a computer game..get back in the real world.
Indeed - but the whole point of the discussion envisaged by this thread is to give this feedback so that it's heard loud and clear next time, not ignored. I agree 100% with your final sentence too and that's why I am very much for keeping Robins in charge in all circumstances barring 117 defeats in a row. We need the level of consistency of squad development you describe.Yes I take your point about an un-balanced squad, but you can't build one in a summer and a sludge pot January window (when in league 1 or 2). If you keep knee jerking you never get past first base. To get a balanced squad takes 3-4 years (unless you have unlimited funds).
Well you're the one who mentioned him! If that ain't pointing the finger, what is?!?I already said it's not a case of pointing the finger at the player, especially as he didn't play FFS.
Pathetic. You been taking lessons from the SISU school of keeping people onside and fostering a team spirit?He is pointless and should be treated like it
mentioned him ans the prime example of our unbalanced squad.Well you're the one who mentioned him! If that ain't pointing the finger, what is?!?
Well you're the one who mentioned him! If that ain't pointing the finger, what is?!?
Pathetic. You been taking lessons from the SISU school of keeping people onside and fostering a team spirit?
Seems like a great team spirit in this winning team but I suppose we never score so we might as well pick him and Biamou up front and see if we can set some goal scoring records.
That and Burge and Haynes.Whoever authorised that needs a right bollocking.
Probably slated McNulty too
(Assertively) 'Right lads, that wasn't good enough out there, that's the sort of game we should be winning'
Most of the squad reacted negatively.
Max Biamou looked fired up.
Not sure about the injury but you do take my point about the un-balanced squad. That's the point I was trying to make all along.
Naturally, I don't see how Robins can't replicate my 3 consecutive promotions with McNulty scoring around 130 goals in the process, all by playing 4-4-2 every week. Bloody amateur.A lot of football fans in general view the game or management as if it were Football Manager, or worse, FIFA. Unfortunately.
Ps. For the record, I’d have said it ‘Aggressively’
Thats how they should be practicing with Haynes Grimmer Stokes Shipley Reid etc crossing the ball and at least 3 attacking the ball... its their job to get onto a crossed ball Biamou running centre, McNulty getting near post and Vincenti getting far post for the overhit cross heading back towards the danger area if indeed he is capable of heading the ball also try Biamou going near post for a flick on and McNulty to get on the end of any flick on thats 3 more attacking options than at presentI'd have had the soppy lot out taking it back to basics.
Right, you 2 take corners. You whip them in all day while the academy strikers attack them and the academy defenders defend them. Don't come in until you can put it on the penalty spot at pace every time, none of this lofting it in shit.
Down the other end I'd have Reid and somebody on the right, Vincenti or whoever he is going to play there whipping crosses in while running down the wing for McNulty / Biamou and JCH to attack them.
Throw ins, whenever we get a throw in every one of our players should be ready to go and get into their positions to receive the ball so I'd be working on that a lot in training too.
It's simple, we don't attack enough with intent.
I think you'll find 'full and frank' in football circles just means accompanied by lots of swearing.
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