Gathering for Tommy / Discontent (9 Viewers)

[David O'Day]

Like they caught that lad from the hit and run on Radford Road?!

that's different

as with the almost 400 arrested so far these people aren't on the run

 

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[Nick]

Nick, I have told you now at least four times, the security services said Iran and Russia were involved.

It was stated 4 days ago in the US and reported 2 days ago here in the UK.

AFTER last week

And obviously bots want to fire up anti immigration mindsets.

And again, part of my job is identifying bots and patterns and a previous job worked with agencies in terms of the same thing.

Can you not see how people only started questioning the validity of videos as soon as it was Muslim men perpetrating things today?

What would you have thought when seeing some of the videos from last week if somebody's first reaction was to write it off instantly?

 

[Otis]

Like they caught that lad from the hit and run on Radford Road?!

I don't live in Coventry. Have they for pictures of his face?

I don't know why you are laughing. Bizarre..

People will clearly know that guy and be able to identify him.

I would certainly know if that was someone I knew.

 

[Diogenes]

Nick, I have told you now at least four times, the security services said Iran and Russia were involved.

It was stated 4 days ago in the US and reported 2 days ago here in the UK.

AFTER last week

And obviously bots want to fire up anti immigration mindsets.

Maybe all the "muslim" gangs are actually Iranian sleeper agents?

 

[David O'Day]

I’m showing that people have been hurt already

I doubt anyone been stabbed. otherwise it would be on the news or over the internet

No one has denied there was violence so why post that in a way that looks like it was an attempt to justify someone lying about people being stabbed?

This is just like when you went off the deep end about muslims a week ago.

 

[Nick]

This is the issue.

you might not like what you see but doesn’t mean people can’t show it or talk about

that’s what fascists do

Yeah but it was about people being stabbed. That video doesn't prove that.

 

[stay_up_skyblues]

The car attack and bloke getting set upon at the Clumsy Swan both occurred with 1/4 of a mile of each other. Unbelievably the car attack took place practically outside of Stechford Police station. I get that resources are stretched but for there not to be a single copper at the scenes is mind boggling. I’m not exaggerating when I say the car attack would’ve been visible from the police offices’ windows.

 

[David O'Day]

you said disinformation might get people hurt

I pointed out people have already been hurt tonight regardless of shitty rumours

omg, i will say it slowly

disinformation gets people hurt and for GIMOC it gets people who aren't already hurt hurt

understand

 

[djr8369]

This is the issue.

you might not like what you see but doesn’t mean people can’t show it or talk about

that’s what fascists do

Yeah people talking about stuff you’ve shared is literally 1984 GIMOC. Hope you live through the inferred criticism and aren’t hauled off to the gulag.

 

[Otis]

And again, part of my job is identifying bots and patterns and a previous job worked with agencies in terms of the same thing.

Can you not see how people only started questioning the validity of videos as soon as it was Muslim men perpetrating things today?

What would you have thought when seeing some of the videos from last week if somebody's first reaction was to write it off instantly?

No, you are not getting it.

There was very realistic looking footage yesterday of Muslims attacking two white guys with a machete

Muslims against white.

It was fake.

We were told it was fake. Common sense then gets you asking, what else is fake? Are there any other attacks that are fake?

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Do you people not get depressed sat in this thread all day

 

[David O'Day]

Yeah people talking about stuff you’ve shared is literally 1984 GIMOC. Hope you live through the inferred criticism and aren’t hauled off to the gulag.

i'm arranging a place at the salt mines for him as we speak

 

[Nick]

No, you are not getting it.

There was very realistic looking footage yesterday of Muslims attacking two white guys with a machete

Muslims against white.

It was fake.

We were told it was fake. Common sense then gets you asking, what else is fake? Are there any other attacks that are fake?

And I'm saying if somebody had questioned the black guy being punched for no reason, how would you have reacted?

 

[David O'Day]

They have his face, his name, his friends, his address. Still not found him, never will. Perhaps different as @David O'Day mentions him being on the run. But id image that the one you're on about wont hang around now either.

the sword fella? to be fair if you are brazen enough to style it out with a sword on the news you probably think you don't need to go on the run

 

[Otis]

They have his face, his name, his friends, his address. Still not found him, never will. Perhaps different as @David O'Day mentions him being on the run. But id image that the one you're on about wont hang around now either.

Maybe, maybe not.

But he is probably and more than likely, British. Where is he going to go?

What's the betting he is so arrogant he thinks he won't be touched.

I honestly think they will nab him given the chance..

 

[djr8369]

And I'm saying if somebody had questioned the black guy being punched for no reason, how would you have reacted?

There were videos of worse on the BBC so there was no reason to assume a false narrative

 

[chiefdave]

This account is an editor at C4 News so hopefully not fake

 

[Nick]

There were videos of worse on the BBC so there was no reason to assume a false narrative

That's another weird take.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

I find it pretty staggering that there are some on here who know every single postcode a brick has been thrown in the last week have somehow missed who Akhmed Yakoob is and think his views aren't relevant to the wider story going on that's been driving these protests/riots for some time.

Given what has gone on tonight too, I'm not sure about the police, but it sadly looks like we've got a bit of a two tier forum going on. It is appropriate to call out the far right but the reactions on here this evening towards some of the videos we are seeing (or in some cases are refusing to see) are embarrassing. Some true colours have truly been shown.

 

[Otis]

And I'm saying if somebody had questioned the black guy being punched for no reason, how would you have reacted?

If that happened now, I would want to be sure. But that was before and like I keep saying, it doesn't fit the narrative.

If you are using bot accounts to stir everything up, you want to show Muslims attacking the British and Islamic wrongdoing.

That's the most logical approach isn't it. Fire up those up more who are already fired up and already disgruntled at the immigration issue

 

[Nick]

This account is an editor at C4 News so hopefully not fake

Fair play to the bloke.

Again though "heard the edl were inside"

Wheres all the edl stuff coming from? Its weirdly only really from one side using that name.

 

[Otis]

I find it pretty staggering that there are some on here who know every single postcode a brick has been thrown in the last week have somehow missed who Akhmed Yakoob is and think his views aren't relevant to the wider story going on that's been driving these protests/riots for some time.

Given what has gone on tonight too, I'm not sure about the police, but it sadly looks like we've got a bit of a two tier forum going on. It is appropriate to call out the far right but the reactions on here this evening towards some of the videos we are seeing (or in some cases are refusing to see) are embarrassing. Some true colours have truly been shown.

Disagree.

I think just about everyone has been saddened and disgusted by all the violence.

That pub attack made me feel sick to my stomach.

 

[Otis]

Fair play to the bloke.

Again though "heard the edl were inside"

Wheres all the edl stuff coming from? Its weirdly only really from one side using that name.

The police and the government have too.

Has surprised me too a little as I didn't think they were a thing anymore.

 

[David O'Day]

Fair play to the bloke.

Again though "heard the edl were inside"

Wheres all the edl stuff coming from? Its weirdly only really from one side using that name.

The EDL name in this case comes from the messages and social media posts that were meant to be setting up the "march"/

Once again not defending anything just answering a question.

 

[djr8369]

That's another weird take.

Not really. I see your wider point and there might even be something in it I’m just pointing out the situations aren’t like for like.

 

[Nick]

If that happened now, I would want to be sure. But that was before and like I keep saying, it doesn't fit the narrative.

If you are using bot accounts to stir everything up, you want to show Muslims attacking the British and Islamic wrongdoing.

That's the most logical approach isn't it. Fire up those up more who are already fired up and already disgruntled at the immigration issue

Still, you are just making assumptions about narratives.

Its a weird take how everything is a bot conspiracy now there's footage of Muslim men attacking others.

Its really not hard to say that the ones carrying out the attacks are racist cunts too.

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

The police and the government have too.

Has surprised me too a little as I didn't think they were a thing anymore.

Presumably anyone who in there view is far right are just being labelled as EDL apologists/sympathiser

 

[djr8369]

Fair play to the bloke.

Again though "heard the edl were inside"

Wheres all the edl stuff coming from? It’s weirdly only really from one side using that name.

Wasn’t there a suggestion the EDL stuff has turned out to be fake?

 

[Nick]

Not really. I see your wider point and there might even be something in it I’m just pointing out the situations aren’t like for like.

Well it's the some of the same shocking behaviour but the perpetrator and victims have swapped over so now people are shitting themselves they might have to say that a Muslim man might be a horrible c**t the same as the white man who is a horrible c**t.

 

[Otis]

Still, you are just making assumptions about narratives.

Its a weird take how everything is a bot conspiracy now there's footage of Muslim men attacking others.

Its really not hard to say that the ones carrying out the attacks are racist cunts too.

White on black, or black on white, because they are black or white, is clearly racist

Bloody obvious.

Racism is racism and we all know there has always been an element of racism from black against white. Always been there

Of course the black people attacking white people because they are white are racists here too.

 

[djr8369]

Still, you are just making assumptions about narratives.

Its a weird take how everything is a bot conspiracy now there's footage of Muslim men attacking others.

Its really not hard to say that the ones carrying out the attacks are racist cunts too.

It’s not weird when there are clearly propaganda accounts sharing the videos

 

[Nick]

It’s not weird when there are clearly propaganda accounts sharing the videos

Yeah as they have been throughout all of the trouble. This is my point.

 

[SBAndy]

Thrilling read, chaps.

 

[Otis]

Thrilling read, chaps.

Yeah..

Not the finest hour on SBT is it.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

And I'm asking how many videos from the weekend when it was mainly white people being cunts were questioned by people worried about bots?

I think you have to have healthy scepticism about all these things no matter what side, many are clearly genuine, some not so much, again on both sides.

I’m not seeing anyone do what you’re asserting here, which is try to say what’s happening tonight is all ‘fake’ though.