torchomatic
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Absolutely. One policeman said that communities had reclaimed their streets, which was beautifully put.
Let's hope they've crawled back under their rocks.
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Absolutely. One policeman said that communities had reclaimed their streets, which was beautifully put.
Let's hope they've crawled back under their rocks.
clint van damme
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See that clown Fox snd his pal the cos play vicar have turned on Farage, lovely stuff.
torchomatic
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Before you know it he'll resign as an MP and trundle off to the States.
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rob9872
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Peace and unity wins though, although intelligence shows there is still a threat and he said this morning but might be tomorrow. Remain vigilantJust an update on the telegram message about Mike Tyson wanting a scrap with me.
He didn't turn up.
I knew it was strange that his username was robl0xb0y673
torchomatic
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Police minister Diana Johnson has said it is matter for football and rugby clubs themselves if they want to take banning action against people convicted of being part of far-right violent disorder over the last few days.
PA Media reports she told listeners of LBC:
PA Media reports she told listeners of LBC:
MalcSB
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Looks like we will all need DBS checks before we are allowed to buy a season ticket.
torchomatic
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Just renewed mine as it happens.
torchomatic
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Surely, none of us want racist thugs at our games? Particularly when we have a large amount of players from different countries and backgrounds in our team.
MalcSB
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What, your DBS?
fernandopartridge
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It's a misfuelling episode
fernandopartridge
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It's more like the Mail, Torygraph etc do their best to disassociate themselves from the behaviours driven by the kind of drivel they've published for 20-30 years. They hate the type of people who are on the anti-racist protests usually.
MalcSB
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Of course we don’t, but how are they stopped?
Is it an erosion of civil liberties to have a punishment unrelated to the crime? Jailed, lost their job seems punishment enough. Ban them from football, foreign holidays, driving - whatever. Hardly likely to end up with anything other than an escalation of resentment. Not much in the way of rehabilitation there. That resentment will end up being expressed in some way - they will have little or nothing to lose.
Nick
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No issue with people being banned from football if they are convicted of a race crime (trying to burn a hotel they think migrants are in, attacking somebody based on their skin colour etc).
A spotty teenager robbing from Greggs? Yeah, he needs tp be punished accordingly for criminal damage but no point banning him from football.
A spotty teenager robbing from Greggs? Yeah, he needs tp be punished accordingly for criminal damage but no point banning him from football.
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rob9872
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Agree, but then I dont want armed robbers, burglars, paedos, murderers etc. Is it ok if they killed someone not in a race crime? I'm sure normally you'd be advocating that if people have served their time they deserve a second chance at life, why should these be different?
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I guess it's if they're likely to re-offend. A reformed racist? Great. I'm not sure what message we send out to Kasey Palmer for one if we condemn Sheffield Wednesday racists, but let 'ours' have the opportunity to do similar.
Someone who's got carried away, thrown a brick, regretted it and I'd say that yep, they should of course be given a second chance and more. As ever there are scales though aren't there, and if somebody is showing demonstrably racist views over time then as far as I'm concerned they don't support our club because they don't support our players. Therefore, as a non-supporter, they shouldn't get tickets. Maybe in the future they're regret / change their views and then of course they should be welcomed back.
Nick
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Maybe if it's a race crime and they have served their time, go through some sort of educational course before coming back to football?
rob9872
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But how do you control it? We've seen the comments on this board. Clearly some are racist. Some hide it better than others but they will be allowed to attend under your rules. We can't decide based on whether it's 'our type of criminal' and has to be a one size fits all and either if they've done the time then they're allowed back or not at all.
I'd be interested to read the views of Pete on this as he's very pro rehabilitation.
rob9872
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Again, would a murderer or paedo have to do that? If they've done their time then how are they different?
Perennial Lurker
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He heard you were going to two foot himJust an update on the telegram message about Mike Tyson wanting a scrap with me.
He didn't turn up.
I knew it was strange that his username was robl0xb0y673
Nick
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No I do get your point entirely.
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That's the problem full-stop with crimes though isn't it - the slightly more intelligent ones are harder to catch! Unfortunately yeah it does mean that those who haven't been directly outright racist continue attending until they do something that makes them bannable.
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I guess for all you know, the bloke sitting next to you is Coventry's answer to Dennis Nilsen.
(More worrying if that person is your son or Dad I guess!)
rob9872
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It actually is my dad who when he had a beard in the 80s looked a bit like Peter Sutcliffe.
TomRad85
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Hard to imagine anyone on here in prison, what are the crimes?
O'Day - Arguing in an empty room
Boosh - Wumming
Tony - Signing up to a football forum despite having no interest in football
BlueSkies - Persistent bed wetting
GIMOC - Chatting shit
Hardly arrestable offences.
skybluetony176
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There should be a ban for a period of time. Most of the people involved will deserve a second chance, some won’t though. I’m particularly thinking about the 58 year old with a history of this behaviour sentenced yesterday, his mindset is clearly set in still carrying on like this at his age. People need to be punished for what they’ve done, we need to remember that their actions mean they willingly took themselves out of a functioning society, they have to earn the right to welcomed back into that society.
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GIMOC was spreading racist misinformation however...
Nick
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Didn't he get arrested for assaulting a copper? While I agree they should be punished, should clubs have a memo from the courts every week with names?
torchomatic
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Well, that will be up to the club to decide. Me, if I were Rotherham Utd and some of those twats who tried to burn down a hotel with people inside were ST Holders, well I'd ban them. For life. If it was those people nicking crocs or steak bakes, then probably not.
skybluetony176
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This time. His history I believe is littered with violence and racism. At 58 I think you have admit he’s beyond rehabilitation.
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