Liquid Gold
Well-Known Member
Mo Mowlam asked for Corbyn to get involved in the peace process because he'd already spent time building bridges in an effort to bring peace to the region. Is she an IRA sympathising trot bitch now too or something?
Mo Mowlam asked for Corbyn to get involved in the peace process because he'd already spent time building bridges in an effort to bring peace to the region. Is she an IRA sympathising trot bitch now too or something?Again avoided the IRA point but ok. I didn't say he was defending it, I was pointing out the error in the argument. As for grow up, try being more balanced. Your daily rhetoric is boring.
Again avoided the IRA point but ok. I didn't say he was defending it, I was pointing out the error in the argument. As for grow up, try being more balanced. Your daily rhetoric is boring.
Your words not mine.Mo Mowlam asked for Corbyn to get involved in the peace process because he'd already spent time building bridges in an effort to bring peace to the region. Is she an IRA sympathising trot bitch now too or something?
Conveniently avoided the IRA issue then? And I was quoting Corbyn v Boris as that was the criticism aimed at Boris not Labour v Conservative. There are plenty of rotten apples throughout the house and I've never said differently, but you don't defend anti-Semitism by saying "yeah but it's ok because he said it too"
You never have anything to say about the City which is predominantly why most of us come here, so I think it's easier if I just set you to ignore.my daily rhetoric is boring? At least mine has some original thought to it, rather than trotting out fanfare from a dying written press.
Your words not mine.
Why do you think she included him? Perhaps because of his close links so he could help bring them round the table? It doesn't detract from the fact he has been a traitor to the nation throughout his time standing alongside them. It's one thing being a republican and hating the monarchy (which I also disagree with0 but supporting terrorism as he did is a whole different level.
I don't disagree with any of that, but again you're using the argument of saying "yeah but look what they did"the charges against Corbyn have been answered ad nauseum In the EU thread.
It's the inconsistency and the hypocrisy that get me.
If you want to shine a light on Corbyns connection to the IRA 30 years ago then fine, but you can't ignore our more recent connections to the regime that are/were one of ISIS's main backers, to tax payers money finding its way to Al Nusra in Syria, to why a control order was lifted on the Manchester bomber so he could fight with rebels in Libya, the list goes on.
That's before you even mention that the tories have fielded an ex member of the Provisional IRA as a councillor and the Brexit Party have Claire Fox as a member.
You never have anything to say about the City which is predominantly why most of us come here, so I think it's easier if I just set you to ignore.
Bye.
I didn’t attribute the financial crisis to labour, like I don’t attribute everything that’s happened post 2010 to the Tories.
For every negative graph, there’s a positive one (check out employment rates per country over recent years - no not all low paid/zero hour jobs as people like to spin !!) or last 12-18 months wage growth even with the backdrop of Brexit) but I can’t keep going round in circles.
If people want a narrow view of politics it’s their call I guess.
ps whilst we would all prefer wage growth to have been stronger, it can be linked to various other factors like over/under supply of labour (See net migration figures since 2010), and productivity. Economics isn’t simple. For example the same people complaining about business tax cuts also don’t like to acknowledge that this can help employment.
Jeremy and McDonnell oddly just never seem to see itAgain avoided the IRA point but ok. I didn't say he was defending it, I was pointing out the error in the argument. As for grow up, try being more balanced. Your daily rhetoric is boring.
I don't disagree with any of that, but again you're using the argument of saying "yeah but look what they did"
Two wrongs have rarely if ever made a right.
I'm not a Tory supporter as the suggestion might be. I'll likely vote for them again as I feel I'm more aligned than any other, to deliver what I want, but I have equal disdain for them as people.
He made an ill informed quip about picanninies and water melon smiles, for which he apologised. It's constantly used as a slur to beat him with and yet Corbyn has never apologised not only for the anti-Semitism but more importantly his support for the IRA. Johnson may be many things you all don't like in terms of Etonian, posh, rich, looking after his own etc but I don't get this racist angle keep being labelled on him.
The Corbyn/Remoaner brigade out in full force again
Bullshit, he wants to remainFunny too as Corbyn wants out of Europe just as much as the majority of the country.
Your words not mine.
Why do you think she included him? Perhaps because of his close links so he could help bring them round the table? It doesn't detract from the fact he has been a traitor to the nation throughout his time standing alongside them. It's one thing being a republican and hating the monarchy (which I also disagree with0 but supporting terrorism as he did is a whole different level.
Bullshit, he wants to remain
Bullshit, he wants to remain
Of course. And nobody is defending them either. Yet another attempt to discredit IRA support with whataboutery. Both sides reprehensible doesn't make his actions any more palatable.You realise unionist terrorism was also a thing right? It wasn’t good ol Blighty versus the evil Irish terrorists.
Looks like Corbyn is going to fight the election very much on the NHS, specifically on the impending scandal of drug prices following the dispatches investigation.
The DUP has as strong terrorist links as Sinn Fein. So really on the principle that you’re applying that also excludes you from voting Tory. That’s before you even get into the long history of loyalist paramilitaries working with a Tory government to undertake assassinations.Of course. And nobody is defending them either. Yet another attempt to discredit IRA support with whataboutery. Both sides reprehensible doesn't make his actions any more palatable.
I've already stated higher up that I dislike most of the Conservative MP's in equal proportion. It wont stop me voting for them however as I pointed out, they are most in line with what I believe economically and in terms of delivering Brexit. If we all had to agree 100% with everything each party stood for then nobody would vote for anybody.The DUP has as strong terrorist links as Sinn Fein. So really on the principle that you’re applying that also excludes you from voting Tory. That’s before you even get into the long history of loyalist paramilitaries working with a Tory government to undertake assassinations.
If the tories are City last season then the NHS is definitely Lee Burge and something that has to be targeted, and rightly so.
No matter how bad or good the economy is most of us will be fucked if we have to pay 30 grand a pop for a round of chemo in our old age, (or unfortunately for some, young age), and that's what's round the corner under the tories.
I'd also add that if the DUP propping up a Conservative Govt stops you voting that way, then how do you reason with the growing support for the Lib Dems. As I said in my previous post, nobody would vote for anybody.The DUP has as strong terrorist links as Sinn Fein. So really on the principle that you’re applying that also excludes you from voting Tory. That’s before you even get into the long history of loyalist paramilitaries working with a Tory government to undertake assassinations.
I'd also add that if the DUP propping up a Conservative Govt stops you voting that way, then how do you reason with the growing support for the Lib Dems. As I said in my previous post, nobody would vote for anybody.
Don’t be ridiculous
Of course. And nobody is defending them either. Yet another attempt to discredit IRA support with whataboutery. Both sides reprehensible doesn't make his actions any more palatable.
But only one who is trying to become Prime Minister of our country!What actions? It’s not whataboutery, it’s pointing out that it was a complex situation and politicians of all stripes at one point or another “sympathised with terrorists”.
I've already stated higher up that I dislike most of the Conservative MP's in equal proportion. It wont stop me voting for them however as I pointed out, they are most in line with what I believe economically and in terms of delivering Brexit. If we all had to agree 100% with everything each party stood for then nobody would vote for anybody.
I've already stated higher up that I dislike most of the Conservative MP's in equal proportion. It wont stop me voting for them however as I pointed out, they are most in line with what I believe economically and in terms of delivering Brexit. If we all had to agree 100% with everything each party stood for then nobody would vote for anybody.
But only one who is trying to become Prime Minister of our country!
On that I agree. I’m voting on policy not personality and if as you say Tory policy is most inline with your own opinions then you voting for them is absolutely the right thing for you to do. Just making the point that if you’re going to dismiss Corbyn on one single issue on cosying up to terrorist then you have to dismiss the Tories on that same single issue.I'd also add that if the DUP propping up a Conservative Govt stops you voting that way, then how do you reason with the growing support for the Lib Dems. As I said in my previous post, nobody would vote for anybody.
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