The thing that annoys me about it is that the shift in orthodoxy has been completely unreported. After years of nonsense about Osborne and others on the need to wipe out the deficit it suddenly isn't an issue. All that austerity and suffering for nothing. The increase in the deficit most recently mostly wasn't planned and has been a result of the government's own mishandling of Brexit since 2015.
Dom is an idiot by the way. I'm not being unreasonable by saying it.
It will be interesting to see how the older vote goes today and if turnout will be down on this.
It's been a while since we last had a vote this time of year. With a lot of Tory votes being from the older persuasion this could have some affect on the result.
I haven't followed the entire thread but I've seen a fair few posters disagreeing that it'll be a Tory majority at least rallying against one anyway.
Think quite a few will have postal voted in case of bad weather. Older generation have also got all day to get to the polling station - younger ones have work etc to fit voting in around.
With the rain and cold etc I actually think it might play into Tory hands - youngsters who don't want to go out in this weather so turnout will be down from that demographic.
Might end up in the situation we had a few years ago with long queues nearing closing time due to people being held up by accidents coming home.
It's horrible to say but the best thing for myself is a hung Parliament.
I wouldn't want any of them running the country.
Check the opinion poll thread. 30 odd people going Tory majority, 20 odd hung, 2 Labour. On a forum that has been accused of being massively left wing bias and Labour apologists.
full of cuntsI'm voting for an Anne Summers Party .
Check the opinion poll thread. 30 odd people going Tory majority, 20 odd hung, 2 Labour. On a forum that has been accused of being massively left wing bias and Labour apologists.
oooh, hob-nobbing on another forum, are we?Classic error that pops up every single time on another forum I go on. It’s a poll about what people think the results will be not what they are voting themselves.
oooh, hob-nobbing on another forum, are we?
But thats the point. Its being suggested posters on here will kick off tonight when there is a shock Conservative win. How can there be a shock win when everyone is predicting it?Classic error that pops up every single time on another forum I go on. It’s a poll about what people think the results will be not what they are voting themselves.
But thats the point. Its being suggested posters on here will kick off tonight when there is a shock Conservative win. How can there be a shock win when everyone is predicting it?
But not enough of us are convinced of it are we? And the majority of people once they own their own home or earn a certain level of income seem to change their attitude from idealistic to currently reality to protect what they have.
‘Busier than usual' seems to be the consensus on turnout so far. What, if anything, that means for the result is anyones guess. Probably have little to no impact.
Austerity? Really?Mainly austerity has caused the problems so yep tories take most of the blame. Happy to support foodbanks and pay more of my salary in taxes that will make our society fairer
We don't ALL do anything except live, breathe & die.
My previous post sums it up I think. Once we have personal comitments/responsibilities like kids to look after is the obvious one...we tend to become what is going to place us in a better position to provide the best we possibly can for them. The more general social responsibility diminishes & efforts in that direction to most people becomes relatively token.
Oh my God. , Eventually you'd start growing extra fingers and toes all over the place. Where are you going to buy shoes and gloves to fit ?
That's what the right wing vanity project of Brexit has done, and I'd disagree I think young people care more about society, climate change and how the country has been divided than the older generation.
Any devaluing of sterling will be nothing on what will happen tonight if Labour win. I think we'd see a run on the pound, which might just be a temporary reaction, but it would happen I think.
Whose fault would that be? Labour's for winning, or the bankers for a knee-jerk reaction based on no justificable reason, only fear?
How many seats does every rekon boris will get with his majority then?
The poll isn't about how people are voting, it's about the way they think the election will go. Of course we're all basically heavily influenced by the polls and our own experiences.
Classic error that pops up every single time on another forum I go on. It’s a poll about what people think the results will be not what they are voting themselves.
I think there’s a few things with older voters.
Economically they are less agile and more reliant on general economic indicators like interest rates to maintain their standard of living. They can’t retrain or move for work, they’re stuck relying on their capital.
Neurologically their brains are less plastic and therefore less able to cope with change or imagine different. Change is scarier the older you get as you rely more on old patterns.
Socially they are more insulated from day to day life and often assume complaints of the younger aren’t as bad as they make out because they literally don’t understand what the modern economy is like to compare to their outdated experiences.
I also think they’re more prone to misinformation in the digital age. I read an info sec researcher the other day saying it was really hard to tell the difference between a Russian bot and a British pensioner.
How old are you, 5?
Probably, but I think Boris might lose his seat. Only 5k majority.Think it’s touch and go - I think around 325
That would be funny.Probably, but I think Boris might lose his seat. Only 5k majority.
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I'm voting for an Anne Summers Party .
That was exactly my point. They were saying reading through the posts there were a lot disagreeing there would be a Tory majority. The poll shows this isn't the case.
How many seats does every rekon boris will get with his majority then?
not sure that 23 is enough for a majorityTotal finger in the air numbers out my arse moment, I’m going: 23
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