shmmeee
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If Labour is crumbling, the Tories have crumbled.
Your party is crumbling, just admit it
For balance: Johnson has literally purged the One Nation Tories from the party and an ex chancellor and father of the house are both saying don’t vote Tory. Which is a touch more damning than Ian Austin who has been anti Corbyn for decades and wasn’t kicked out.
Yet they are ahead in the polls....If Labour is crumbling, the Tories have crumbled.
I don't like any of the leaders of the bigger parties. I normally like at least one but still vote Labour instead :smuggrin:
Fucking hell bet your fun at parties, you need to stop being so serious about a bit of bants
Yet they are ahead in the polls....
The Austin thing has been framed very differently though and so had significantly more impact.
Lewis Goodall did a good thread on twitter about it.
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Second former Labour MP tells voters to back Tories
John Woodcock has today become the second former Labour MP to urge voters to back the Tories at the 12 December election.
He joins Ian Austin in recommending voters favour Boris Johnson over Jeremy Corbyn.
He says: "There are one of two people who are going to be prime minister after an election. It is Boris Johnson or it is Jeremy Corbyn."
"We pleaded with our friends in the Labour Party to face up to this choice, not to leave it until too late," Mr Woodcock adds.
"Now all of that to an extent is water under the bridge, but we have arrived in a campaign where one of two people are going to be prime minister."
He continues: "The choice to keep Jeremy Corbyn away from Downing Street, to stop him getting his hands on the levers of national security and defence has to be to vote Conservative in this election and that's what I'll be doing as well."
The Austin thing has been framed very differently though and so had significantly more impact.
Lewis Goodall did a good thread on twitter about it.
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Just read it. He’s spot on. Saw this as well, compare the reporting of this to every AS accusation levelled at Corbyn.
Just to be clear this is the guy who had the whip removed after allegations of sexual harassment that he labelled a set up and then refused to cooperate with the investigation that would have cleared his name.Second former Labour MP tells voters to back Tories
John Woodcock has today become the second former Labour MP to urge voters to back the Tories at the 12 December election.
He joins Ian Austin in recommending voters favour Boris Johnson over Jeremy Corbyn.
He says: "There are one of two people who are going to be prime minister after an election. It is Boris Johnson or it is Jeremy Corbyn."
"We pleaded with our friends in the Labour Party to face up to this choice, not to leave it until too late," Mr Woodcock adds.
"Now all of that to an extent is water under the bridge, but we have arrived in a campaign where one of two people are going to be prime minister."
He continues: "The choice to keep Jeremy Corbyn away from Downing Street, to stop him getting his hands on the levers of national security and defence has to be to vote Conservative in this election and that's what I'll be doing as well."
Woodcock was my local MP until they wanted to get rid of him. Used to have some good chats.Second former Labour MP tells voters to back Tories
John Woodcock has today become the second former Labour MP to urge voters to back the Tories at the 12 December election.
He joins Ian Austin in recommending voters favour Boris Johnson over Jeremy Corbyn.
He says: "There are one of two people who are going to be prime minister after an election. It is Boris Johnson or it is Jeremy Corbyn."
"We pleaded with our friends in the Labour Party to face up to this choice, not to leave it until too late," Mr Woodcock adds.
"Now all of that to an extent is water under the bridge, but we have arrived in a campaign where one of two people are going to be prime minister."
He continues: "The choice to keep Jeremy Corbyn away from Downing Street, to stop him getting his hands on the levers of national security and defence has to be to vote Conservative in this election and that's what I'll be doing as well."
Woodcock was my local MP until they wanted to get rid of him. Used to have some good chats.
They put a false charge against him and wouldn't let him defend himself properly. Labour refused to appoint an independent investigator. That is why he left. Strangely enough he was always outspoken about Corbyn.
the press have always covered these stories in the same manner
Why wouldn't Labour allow an independent investigator?Are you implying the staffer that made the complaint was put up to it?
That’s not true.
Why wouldn't Labour allow an independent investigator?
One is allowed by the rules. But Labour wouldn't keep to the rules. Can you explain why?
it’s exactly true show examples where it is not. How about Matthew Parris and Enoch Powell?
Whatever age you are. Voting age should be higher.
Media reporting especially the BBC is skewed towards the existing establishment, whoever is in charge.
Wasi has about as much credibility as George Galloway - she was promoted out of her depth and has been embittered ever since
Read it earlier. Waiting to see if her replacement is anything like the one they have tried to parachute into Coventry.here’s another one. The night of the long knives is underway.
Labour candidate deselected by 'kangaroo court'
Is it? Show an example to illustrate that theory.
In other words all who agree with you are credible and all who don’t aren’t.
Look at their coverage of the monarchy for a start
Is that right? Shows how much you don't know about him. Has been a great MP for the area. And my union always gave him their full support.John Woodcock the partner of Isabel Hardman who works as Assistant Editor of the Spectator - he's about as Labour as Boris Johnson.
Ian Austin - Pro Iraq war and absolutely anti-immigrant to a BNP level
The monarchy is not political and there are many many negative items regarding them and their expenditure - poor try
All he had to do is release his phone records and if he was innocent the case against him would have failed. The accusation was that he’d been sexually harassing the staffer by text for a period of two years. Clearing his name would have been the easiest thing in the world to do regardless of who was running the investigation.Why wouldn't Labour allow an independent investigator?
One is allowed by the rules. But Labour wouldn't keep to the rules. Can you explain why?
Support for the monarchy isn’t a political issue? You forget I have been to protest against it to find radio silence and ignorance from British media yet we drew much attention from foreign media. They are celebrated, not reported on.
Just look at what happened when the Guardian attempted to publish Charles’ meddling in the Blair government.
Ha ha ha, yeah OK. So no one is going to lose their shit next time Corbyn doesn’t sing the national anthem.The monarchy is not political and there are many many negative items regarding them and their expenditure - poor try
what about the recent Mail article laying out Prince Charles profligate behaviour?
Is that right? Shows how much you don't know about him. Has been a great MP for the area. And my union always gave him their full support.
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