Grendel
Well-Known Member
the turnaround will be his fundraisers will have told him they are withdrawing support - he’s been low key by his standards already
I wouldn't guarantee it. But he must be getting something from it - why the sudden turn around to get a deal he apparently doesn't want? I'm sure there's more to this than we're hearing - he can't have just given up now after all those years.
So we won't leave debt for future generations but at least it will be cheaper for them to pay it off?What “Max”? And yes, money borrowed now leads to growth tomorrow. Does that mean you can borrow forever? No. Only if there’s spare capacity in the economy, which there is right now as we are at ZLB and the banks can’t do any more.
If we leave debt for the next generation, they will leave it for the one after that as long as growth outstrips interest it’ll costs them less than it does us. This is fairly basic economics.
Well its what his buddy Trump wanted him to do and Trump doesn't do anything that isn't to his own personal advantage. Sure the peerage he was offered to drop out of those seats didn't cross his mind when making the choice.
Both good points.the turnaround will be his fundraisers will have told him they are withdrawing support - he’s been low key by his standards already
Also0, as we had all the Labour ones rebelling in vote, it seems only fair to point out the ex Tory MPs who are less than enamoured with their former party...
Appalling Choice contest must start process of building something new
This could go on and on and on...
It's because we all know that the only way children should be brought up is by a daddy and mummy at home. They never look at the many different circumstances and things that could happen that stop that being the case and just say single parents are assumed to be irresponsible even though many of them are absolutely stoic troopers who put up with more pressures than middle class mums living off hubby could ever imagine and would crumble under the strain.
To be honest the one thing I want is this self serving smug individual to finally get her comeuppance
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It's the same ex Tory MP, and former chief of staff for Johnson, who considers the Prime Minister to be a disgrace who has sold out his party to nationalism, and will destroy the NHS in the blink of an eye.Is that the same Nick Boles that said a vote for Corbyn us a vote for a racist?
Now or never I think. Jo Swinson is closer to Tory than labour though isn’t she?I think people are overplaying the significance of this Brexit party move.... at this stage at least.
Firstly - the chances of any BXP MP’s have pretty much evaporated. So this couldn’t help Johnson later on form a potential government.
Secondly - A Tory majority assumes that they hold onto all their existing seats and take them off Labour. However moderate Tory voters have now seen their party align (and in their eyes become) a Hard Brexit party. This will make them vulnerable to Lib Dems in those marginal seats, and to the SNP in Scotland. Some Lab/Con marginals that are not in heavy leave areas, areas of high cultural diversity could also be at risk (Northampton North is an example here)
Thirdly - Although it would appear that it could benefit the Tories in current Lab seats (but with big Leave population) will traditional leave voters go to the Brexit party knowing it will deliver another 5 years of Tories and the misery that goes with it? Some will of course - but maybe not as many as people think.
Labour, LD and others need to respond. They should start with simple seats to stand down in to build a common approach and good will. For example - all should stand down in Brighton Pavillion for Lucas, Lab stand down in Richmond for the LD, LD stand down for Lab in Canterbury. Show voters that want the Tories out that you are serious. And then from there it can be built on.
Swineson is horrific. It pains me to say but I'd rather even Corbyn than her.Now or never I think. Jo Swinson is closer to Tory than labour though isn’t she?
The Brexit party isn't about sharing government. Now it is all about taking votes away from remain parties where the Tories lost last time but not taking votes away from the Tories where they won.I think people are overplaying the significance of this Brexit party move.... at this stage at least.
Firstly - the chances of any BXP MP’s have pretty much evaporated. So this couldn’t help Johnson later on form a potential government.
Secondly - A Tory majority assumes that they hold onto all their existing seats and take them off Labour. However moderate Tory voters have now seen their party align (and in their eyes become) a Hard Brexit party. This will make them vulnerable to Lib Dems in those marginal seats, and to the SNP in Scotland. Some Lab/Con marginals that are not in heavy leave areas, areas of high cultural diversity could also be at risk (Northampton North is an example here)
Thirdly - Although it would appear that it could benefit the Tories in current Lab seats (but with big Leave population) will traditional leave voters go to the Brexit party knowing it will deliver another 5 years of Tories and the misery that goes with it? Some will of course - but maybe not as many as people think.
Labour, LD and others need to respond. They should start with simple seats to stand down in to build a common approach and good will. For example - all should stand down in Brighton Pavillion for Lucas, Lab stand down in Richmond for the LD, LD stand down for Lab in Canterbury. Show voters that want the Tories out that you are serious. And then from there it can be built on.
In what way?Labour raised £1m for the election campaign in a week from members. Average donation £26. Maybe the people do have a voice?
In what way? They are all power hungry. But the Tories want us out and Labour want us to remain although I don't think that is what Corbyn actually wants himself.Now or never I think. Jo Swinson is closer to Tory than labour though isn’t she?
Should be done for fraud.What an absolute shambles. Farage claiming Johnson is binning his EU deal and going back to negotiate again.
Also refusing to refund money to candidates he's now blocked from standing. The candidates can't do anything about it as Farage set up a limited company to take the payments.
Bloke on this morning. Has spent £10K so far and hasn’t even had a call to say he’s no longer standing. Found out off the TV.Should be done for fraud.
Bloke on this morning. Has spent £10K so far and hasn’t even had a call to say he’s no longer standing. Found out off the TV.
They should start up a breakaway Brexit Party. Something catchy like the Provisional Brexit Party or the Continuity Brexit PartyWhy don't they stand as independent brexit ?
How is the Brexit Party going to take remainer votes?The Brexit party isn't about sharing government. Now it is all about taking votes away from remain parties where the Tories lost last time but not taking votes away from the Tories where they won.
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