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Benjamin Netanyahu
Benjamin Netanyahu
Boris got the deal he wanted didn’t he?Classic understanding of negotiation from Rebecca Long-Bailey
“we will take no deal off the table when we re-negotiate with the EU”
“Surely that weakens your position in a negotiation”
“Not at all the last thing the EU want Is a no deal”
Ah. But several on here even think we are in a better position when putting no deal off the table. Still waiting for someone to explain how though.Classic understanding of negotiation from Rebecca Long-Bailey
“we will take no deal off the table when we re-negotiate with the EU”
“Surely that weakens your position in a negotiation”
“Not at all the last thing the EU want Is a no deal”
At least it’s going well for Johnson when he’s out and about meeting the people!
Water of a ducks back. He couldn’t give a fuck.At least it’s going well for Johnson when he’s out and about meeting the people!
Should't he be trying to snide at the SNP?
Boris got the deal he wanted didn’t he? You’ve witnessed why it wasn’t a bargaining chip. Why do you need it explained to you?Ah. But several on here even think we are in a better position when putting no deal off the table. Still waiting for someone to explain how though.
How?
Because some people are planning to abstain - hence the loss of Tory votes. Why would people be talking about abstaining if the Tory Brexit is the same as the BXP Brexit?So Tory voters would vote for the Brexit party? Can you explain in plain words why?
The Tories have no policies... their only coherent policy is ‘Grrr Corbyn’
Labour have loads - whether people like them or not is another matter.
Because some people are planning to abstain - hence the loss of Tory votes. Why would people be talking about abstaining if the Tory Brexit is the same as the BXP Brexit?
People do. They consistently poll well.
How?
Boris got the deal he wanted didn’t he?
People will coalesce around the two big parties. It’s already happening and will only speed up as we get towards polling day. Farage and Swinson both doing their level best to piss off their own voters as well.
Johnson is ore than happy with having an election. He can then look to securing no deal in a years time. It is pandering to the far right in his party (and the Brexit party) to ensure he is in power. It is why he couldn't wait to ditch those that voted against a no deal.Well, he got the election he wanted anyway. Whether he got the deal he wanted is debatable as he kept looking for any excuse he could to pull it.
So your vote losses from the Tories has bow become people abstaining. And you also say now that it is an 'If'Because some people are planning to abstain - hence the loss of Tory votes. Why would people be talking about abstaining if the Tory Brexit is the same as the BXP Brexit?
Farage and Swinson both doing their level best to piss off their own voters as well.
Because A) they’ve only withdrawn from current Tory seats and B) the polls have consistently shown that for every vote the Brexit Party takes of Labour they take two of the Conservatives. It only could go up when you factor in the facts.Why does the one poll that factors in the withdrawal of the party in the specific seats give it a 14 point lead a s has Brexit at sub 4%?
So your vote losses from the Tories has bow become people abstaining. And you also say now that it is an 'If'
No electoral deals with Labour, Swinson insists
Stubborn Swinson, she's giving Corbyn no chance haha....
Look back. It was what you stated as fact. That is why I asked you questions. Now it seems that you agree with me. Nothing cryptic there.I gave my opinion on what I think COULD happen. I merely pointed out that the variables could work in both ways... it was not a nailed on positive for the Tories.
Now do you agree/disagree with my point or not, rather than this cryptic procession we are in?
I think it's more delusional than anything. Farage has accepted that he can't win the election outright and IMO may be being savvy pulling more and more people so if they do badly he can use the standing candidates down as an excuse for that and claiming they'd have won some of those.
Swinson on the other hand seems to actually belief LD can be the largest party and she could be PM.
Of course there are policy differences between them but it seems they're making errors just like in the coalition. By doing this they're making it more likely to be Tory win and thus enabling Brexit, the stopping of which is their flagship policy. Sometimes you have to lose battles to win wars.
Again, this can't be pointed out enough. The scale of what Labour is up against in Scotland and the part reason there was a seismic shift to SNP.
And don't forget Aberdeen Labour. It's like a page from a horror novel.
That Scottish Labour guy used to bitch about Blair being too left wing. He’s representative of no one but himself. He was Labour because he was Scottish and at the time you were Labour or you weren’t in politics.
Scotland will be SNP for a while now.
That Scottish Labour guy used to bitch about Blair being too left wing. He’s representative of no one but himself. He was Labour because he was Scottish and at the time you were Labour or you weren’t in politics.
Scotland will be SNP for a while now.
I think it's more delusional than anything. Farage has accepted that he can't win the election outright and IMO may be being savvy pulling more and more people so if they do badly he can use the standing candidates down as an excuse for that and claiming they'd have won some of those.
Swinson on the other hand seems to actually belief LD can be the largest party and she could be PM.
Of course there are policy differences between them but it seems they're making errors just like in the coalition. By doing this they're making it more likely to be Tory win and thus enabling Brexit, the stopping of which is their flagship policy. Sometimes you have to lose battles to win wars.
Other than the Tories are trying to force Brexit through and the Scottish want to remain in the EU.No reason why the conservatives can't take some SNP seats
No reason why the conservatives can't take some SNP seats
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