Ian1779
Well-Known Member
Labour have to engage the 11m that did not vote last time out to stand a chance - which is more than any single party managed last time.
i dunno
idiots i went school with never talked about voting, then brexit came and they were all on it sharing british independence day pictures with farage etc
if they keep voting i can only see labour getting smashed
The irony is that the Corbyn critics in the Labour Party are the ones most vulnerable in terms of their own seats. If Labour get a hammering - he will still return as an MP and most of those most vocal against him will be seeking alternative employment.
Exactly right. I've never seen Corbyn as a potential PM but he could have been a stepping stone to get Labour back on track as a genuine opposition and alternative. They should have been looking to the huge number of people who don't vote and look at the people who joined under Corbyn.Not saying you're wrong - but it goes to show that some people will risk their children's (and their own) future in terms of Health and Education because it has now become an X Factor style popularity contest and policy is virtually obsolete.
To me the fact that its possible for someone to jump from Labour to Conservative sums up a lot of what is wrong with politics.I understand a member from Coventry Labour Party has jumped ship today and gone to Coventry Conservatives.
Exactly right. I've never seen Corbyn as a potential PM but he could have been a stepping stone to get Labour back on track as a genuine opposition and alternative. They should have been looking to the huge number of people who don't vote and look at the people who joined under Corbyn.
Go for those people. A lot of them are people who have become disenfranchised from politics as they feel their vote is meaningless and there is little difference between the parties. With the conservatives moving to the right in an attempt to regain UKIP votes and the Lib Dems virtually extinct this was a prime time for Labour to take advantage of the chaos of the referendum and if not win at least make serious ground.
Instead you've got career politicians more concerned about maintaining their own pay packet than representing their members. Has any party ever had such a disconnect between the parliamentary party and the ordinary membership?
You shouldn't have left, the party needs a well rounded voice.Well hopefully a chance to get rid of Corbyn without waiting for a few more years. I can rejoin the Party then.
You shouldn't have left, the party needs a well rounded voice.
But you don't change a party from the outside. My CLP has been slowly having less of the Corbyn personality cult and I think if he can leave the party with credible left wing policies and an electable leader instead of the right of centre malaise we were in then it will have been a success.The day after he beat Owen Smith I cancelled my membership after 30 years. A Labour party needs to be in power to change lives and to stop the Tories. Unfortunately, people like Corbyn, Diane Abbott and John McDonnell are incapable and bordering on madness. No one would vote for them in the numbers needed. For the first time in my life I won't be voting Labour this time.
I would never vote Tory that leaves me with the Greens or the LDs.
But you don't change a party from the outside. My CLP has been slowly having less of the Corbyn personality cult and I think if he can leave the party with credible left wing policies and an electable leader instead of the right of centre malaise we were in then it will have been a success.
Labour have to make it an election about the NHS and Education if they want any chance of winning.
This is the route they should have gone down. I don't think he even wants to be PM. If they'd backed him I reckon they could have done a deal with him to leave after the referendum for someone more electable.I think if he can leave the party with credible left wing policies and an electable leader instead
Corbyn's fucked.
Yes, they've got such a great record on these two issues haven't they.
They should throw in multiculturalism and managing the economy too.
It would be a landslide.
I don't think it's as clear cut as that. Young people in particular see left socialism as an attractive proposition compared with neo-liberal centrists and right nationalists.Left wing socialism is dead,The last time a centre/left party got voted in was over 40 years ago.
Corbyn and his cronies are living in a world that existed in the 70's.
Michael Foot's result in 83 will look good compared to Corbyn's!!
Probaly a good thing for Labour. They've now got 5 years to sort themselves out, instead of waiting for 8.Corbyn's fucked.
Suppose you'll convieniently ignore that the national debt has rocketed since 2010. Add to that the Tories turning an NHS surplus into eye-watering debt over 6 years and you have the Tory master plan...
Keep the rich rich - fuck the poor. Then blame the immigrants.
We'd have enough money for an immigrant each if we closed the fucking tax loopholes that the Tories are so keen on.What's the Labour master plan?
More money to those on benefits - tax the hard working and more immigrants...
I would guess it will be based around this:What's the Labour master plan?
I would guess it will be based around this:
Labour's 10 pledges to rebuild and transform Britain
The timing of the election coinciding with the election fraud investigation coincidental or not?
I look at some of the new breed of MP's that have come through to the Shadow Cabinet after the mass walkout - Rayner, Lewis, Burgon to name 3 and see them all as potential future leaders.
Thanks for clearing that up. I didn't know you were in the prime minister's inner circle.Coincidental.
Sky News in Nuneaton town centre today, apparently it is a bell weather seat. Everyone they interviewed said they were voting Tory.
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