Brighton Sky Blue
Well-Known Member
Investment in education on a scale which we haven't seen since 1997, giving public sector workers proper pay rises, opposing the grammar school expansion. Just 3 good reasons off the top of my head.
Can you tell me what makes you so happy about what he has said because as a Labour voter I missed it.
Why do you keep saying that? Nobody has said they expect a Labour win. No poll predicts a Labour win.
Why do you keep saying that? Nobody has said they expect a Labour win. No poll predicts a Labour win.
This is nothing like Brexit.
You keep saying this even though nobody is predicting a Labour win.
The parallels are frightening because it's an election. They are all like this.The parallel's are frightening.
Remain was plastered everywhere and no one was aloud to say they were a leave voter otherwise they'd get mobbed. People said 'everyone should vote' and then proceeded to throw their toys out of the pram when the result came in that they didn't like.
I'm not saying Labour expect to win, I am saying tomorrow a lot (not all) of people will be in snowflake meltdown if they don't. This will then be followed by abuse towards anyone that voted differently to them.
And how did he say that it would be paid for?Investment in education on a scale which we haven't seen since 1997, giving public sector workers proper pay rises, opposing the grammar school expansion. Just 3 good reasons off the top of my head.
An increase in corporation tax to bring us up to the massive unacceptable level of the lowest in the G8.And how did he say that it would be paid for?
There seems to be a lot of guessing going on here.You say you can't vote Corbyn because he has no charisma and isn't a leader, but always voted Labour before. Seems to imply you think Miliband did.
to be honest I have seen as much if not more pro labour on this campaign with the bulk being through social media. I rarely pick up a paper these days so don't normally see a lot of what the papers are saying. Maybe Labour has more positive things to say on this one?? I don't know but I don't feel its all one way.The parallels are frightening because it's an election. They are all like this.
Nice use of the term snowflake there, been reading alt-right websites have you?
Also Labour aren't plastered everywhere. The Tories have the vast majority of the media and have spend many times more on advertising than Labour
The parallels are frightening because it's an election. They are all like this.
Nice use of the term snowflake there, been reading alt-right websites have you?
Also Labour aren't plastered everywhere. The Tories have the vast majority of the media and have spend many times more on advertising than Labour
And risk losing jobs? So raise it by how much?An increase in corporation tax to bring us up to the massive unacceptable level of the lowest in the G8.
That's because you live in a Labour city and are the age you are. You can't apply your experience to the whole electorate and the money spent on advertising by each campaign suggests you're wrong.I use the term snowflake because it is extremely applicable.
Labour are plastered everywhere for me. I haven't seen one person telling me to vote Conservative, but half the internet wants me to vote Labour.
Lose jobs how? Tightening up tax laws is part of the manifesto.And risk losing jobs? So raise it by how much?
They should try tightening up tax laws. That would bring in more.
that's probably down to campaign money!Roadside boards with Marcus Jones's ugly mug are everywhere in Nuneaton but I haven't seen a single labour one.
Saudi Arabia are one of the biggest sponsors of ISIS and global terrorism in general, they haveI'm mote concerned about the absecence of John McDonnell. Where is he?
Having a pint with Mr Adams perhaps? Reminiscing about the bulletts, the bombs and the dead Tories - the good old days.
It's not a case of trying to lose, more a case of they didn't think they had to try to win.I would say the Tories have tried very hard to lose, it's a question of if they've tried hard enough or not?
That's because you live in a Labour city and are the age you are. You can't apply your experience to the whole electorate and the money spent on advertising by each campaign suggests you're wrong.
Saudi Arabia are one of the biggest sponsors of ISIS and global terrorism in general, they have
One of the worst "human rights" records in the world.
Our Prime Minister was there just two months ago signing an agreement to sell them even more
Weapons than we already do, weapons that will undoubtedly be used against us in the future.
Corbyn and McDonnel recognised that in order to achieve peace in NI it would take dialogue and
Careful negotiations, as he's said to achieve your objective sometimes you have to sit down with
People you don't necessarily like.
A point proven by the fact that between 1979 / 1992 the conservative government conducted no
Dialogue and achieved nothing except job creation for Irish voice over artists.
The peace process was then initiated, conducted and eventually completed by a Labour g'ment,
would you rather the peace process was never initiated ?
It's not a case of trying to lose, more a case they didn't think they had to try to win.
They have nothing to say that would actually resonate with ordinary people, their whole campaign
Has been about attacking Labour and usually with lies.
What constitutes whinging and what constitutes continuing to make an argument for what you believe in?I can apply experience from Brexit which has a similar narrative based on the that exact reasoning.
My mum will probably vote Labour and she won't be winging if they lose, but a hell of a lot of people will be.
Genuine question - I have seen a lot posted on social media on this one and that we are way lower than everyone else in the G8 but surely by that if a company was going to jump ship as a result of increased CT then why wouldn't they relocate to non G8 countries where they would get that benefit? A lot of automotive companies set up shop in non G8 countries probably for this reason surely?An increase in corporation tax to bring us up to the massive unacceptable level of the lowest in the G8.
Sometimes they play music. Steve Coogan told some jokes at the one in Brum yesterday.What actually happens at these Rallies? From what I can see loads of people turn up, listen to a politician bullshit and then cheer like it's the winning goal at Wembley?
that's probably down to campaign money!
yep that's it...What actually happens at these Rallies? From what I can see loads of people turn up, listen to a politician bullshit and then cheer like it's the winning goal at Wembley?
do they have a bar??Sometimes they play music. Steve Coogan told some jokes at the one in Brum yesterday.
Sometimes they play music. Steve Coogan told some jokes at the one in Brum yesterday.
That's a fair point and I'm sure some companies will, or at least consider it. The benefits of being in a G8 country wt all the relevant infrastructure and industry though far outweighs the benefits of being in a lower tax non G8 country. Inside the G8 you are able to have an influence on economic decision making that effects the vast majority of world trade. If it was profitable to leave the bloc (I didn't want to say G8 again - I have now) then companies would do it already. America has the highest rate (eithout checking) but you don't see companies jump to Mexico because of the influence they'd lose.Genuine question - I have seen a lot posted on social media on this one and that we are way lower than everyone else in the G8 but surely by that if a company was going to jump ship as a result of increased CT then why wouldn't they relocate to non G8 countries where they would get that benefit? A lot of automotive companies set up shop in non G8 countries probably for this reason surely?
You have to hide a few cans of Kestrel super in your pocket.do they have a bar??
So they basically reel off anybody who supports them politically who is famous?
Make your mind up. You said increase corporation tax. Companies will look at moving to somewhere with lower tax. Thus job losses.Lose jobs how? Tightening up tax laws is part of the manifesto.
What constitutes whinging and what constitutes continuing to make an argument for what you believe in?
It seems too many people act like politics is a game of football and 90 mins that's it. These debates will continue to happen over the course of the next 5 year parliament and beyond. Just because the Tories win doesn't take away my right to stand up and say I believe what they're doing is wrong does it?
Why are they not in the countries that pay higher tax than here? Raise the tax to the level that they didn't want to pay?Genuine question - I have seen a lot posted on social media on this one and that we are way lower than everyone else in the G8 but surely by that if a company was going to jump ship as a result of increased CT then why wouldn't they relocate to non G8 countries where they would get that benefit? A lot of automotive companies set up shop in non G8 countries probably for this reason surely?
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