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Saddlebrains · Jun 7, 2020

So they're allowed to ponse around on a motorway but we cant have a promotion celebration.

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skybluetony176 · Jun 7, 2020

David O'Day said:
The hall has also had it's name changed

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Massive Attack have famously always refused to play it because of the name adorned on it. This anti Colston rhetoric hasn’t just started in the last few weeks in Bristol, it’s been around for years.

Liquid Gold · Jun 7, 2020

The best thing about it is that the statue is now under a bridge named after a slave.

chiefdave · Jun 7, 2020

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I guessing the Bristol colson hall was named after him.

Its being renamed when they complete the current substantial renovation project.

Since the start of our transformation campaign, which we launched in September 2014, we’ve stated that we would be reviewing the name as part of our redevelopment. Our Board of Trustees unanimously made the decision that when we reopen the new building, it will be with a new name. We made the announcement in April 2017, well before the transformation began in June 2018, to make our intentions clear.

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
But the fact is that if enough people had lobbied the authorities to remove this statue in the ensuing weeks and the council had agreed it would have been symbolic . It would have shown willingness to acknowledge that the statute represents oppression and insults a significant section of the population .

There's been campaigns going on for decades and the council have ignored all calls for the statue to be removed. They couldn't even agree what to put on an additional plaque to explain the issues.
The Edward Colston ‘corrective’ plaque - Bristol Radical History Group
100 human figures placed in front of Colston statue in city centre

clint van damme · Jun 7, 2020

chiefdave said:
Its being renamed when they complete the current substantial renovation project.

There's been campaigns going on for decades and the council have ignored all calls for the statue to be removed. They couldn't even agree what to put on an additional plaque to explain the issues.
The Edward Colston ‘corrective’ plaque - Bristol Radical History Group
100 human figures placed in front of Colston statue in city centre

imagine living in a city where the council ignore public opinion

chiefdave · Jun 7, 2020

Minneapolis City Council are announcing they are going to disband the police department. How does that work? They are saying they've tried reform in the past and it hasn't worked.

On Sunday afternoon, a veto-proof majority of Minneapolis City Council members will announce their commitment to disbanding the city’s embattled police department, which has endured relentless criticism in the wake of the police killing of George Floyd, an unarmed Black man, on May 25.

“We are here today because George Floyd was killed by the Minneapolis Police Department. We are also here because, here in Minneapolis and in cities across the United States, it is clear that our existing system of policing and public safety isn’t working for so many of our neighbors,” Minneapolis City Council President Lisa Bender said in a written statement Sunday. “Our efforts at incremental reform have failed.”

Sky Blue Harry H · Jun 7, 2020

chiefdave said:
Minneapolis City Council are announcing they are going to disband the police department. How does that work? They are saying they've tried reform in the past and it hasn't worked.

Even if you replace a whole police force, you'll be left with............a new police force. It's about training and building bridges regarding racism, but you're still going to get 'foul' called by a few wrong people whenever they are apprehended. Change needed, but you're never going to get rid of confrontation when the police are called to arrest people, just hopefully less outright thuggery (though you see incidents of people attacking paramedics, firefighters, so it's a thankless task at times)

David O'Day · Jun 7, 2020

chiefdave said:
Minneapolis City Council are announcing they are going to disband the police department. How does that work? They are saying they've tried reform in the past and it hasn't worked.

I guess they restart it but with less shit management

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Harry Krishner · Jun 7, 2020

The Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) dealt in and owned slaves.

Presumably this mob in Bristol will be off to demolish a few mosques next, according to their infallible logic.

David O'Day · Jun 7, 2020

Sky Blue Harry H said:
Even if you replace a whole police force, you'll be left with............a new police force. It's about training and building bridges regarding racism, but you're still going to get 'foul' called by a few wrong people whenever they are apprehended. Change needed, but you're never going to get rid of confrontation when the police are called to arrest people, just hopefully less outright thuggery (though you see incidents of people attacking paramedics, firefighters, so it's a thankless task at times)

But they have decided that the current force are too rotten to fix so it's time to start again.

The head of the Minneapolis police union is a scumbag

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David O'Day · Jun 7, 2020

Harry Krishner said:
The Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) dealt in and owned slaves.

Presumably this mob in Bristol will be off to demolish a few mosques next, according to their infallible logic.

Err no. The prophet didn't make a fortune in dealing them and is responsible for the death of 19000 of them.

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skybluetony176 · Jun 7, 2020

Harry Krishner said:
The Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) dealt in and owned slaves.

Presumably this mob in Bristol will be off to demolish a few mosques next, according to their infallible logic.

Don’t mosques famously have no images of Muhammad? What are they going to vandalise exactly?

Skybluefaz · Jun 7, 2020

What is this piece of shit talking about?

skybluetony176 · Jun 7, 2020

Skybluefaz said:
What is this piece of shit talking about?

He has a history of talking bollocks
Tory vice-chair called for police brutality during London riots

ajsccfc · Jun 8, 2020

If any witchhunt SHARE THIS PHOTO is a load of bollocks I really hope it's this one

Ian1779 · Jun 8, 2020

Not sure I’m a fan of Kier Starmer going on LBC and pandering to nutters. I also don’t think as Labour leader should share a platform of with Nigel ‘I got some hard truths for you black people to hear’ Farage.

Maybe it’s just me...

TomRad85 · Jun 8, 2020

ajsccfc said:
If any witchhunt SHARE THIS PHOTO is a load of bollocks I really hope it's this one

Not really a fan of these, you could post a picture of anyone, claiming they did anything and it can snowball. Although of course if it was this guy he's a pure c**t.

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ajsccfc · Jun 8, 2020

I don't think I've seen one yet where they get the person right. People in Sunderland currently swearing on the validity here

TomRad85 · Jun 8, 2020

Ian1779 said:
Not sure I’m a fan of Kier Starmer going on LBC and pandering to nutters. I also don’t think as Labour leader should share a platform of with Nigel ‘I got some hard truths for you black people to hear’ Farage.

Maybe it’s just me...

Plenty of traditional Labour voters also voted Brexit. As uncomfortable as it makes you I'm sure there are a good amount of people out there that would like to hear from both Starmer and Farage.

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Grendel · Jun 8, 2020

ajsccfc said:
If any witchhunt SHARE THIS PHOTO is a load of bollocks I really hope it's this one

oh just great

TomRad85 · Jun 8, 2020

ajsccfc said:
I don't think I've seen one yet where they get the person right. People in Sunderland currently swearing on the validity here

This is what I'm saying. Probably created by someone in Sunderland for a laugh.

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Deleted member 5849 · Jun 8, 2020

TomRad85 said:
Not really a fan of these, you could post a picture of anyone, claiming they did anything and it can snowball. Although of course if it was this guy he's a pure c**t.

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We live in interesting times...

ajsccfc · Jun 8, 2020

TomRad85 · Jun 8, 2020

ajsccfc said:

Fake news, it wasn't a brick. It was toys out of the pram I believe.

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Skybluefaz · Jun 8, 2020

Ian1779 said:
Not sure I’m a fan of Kier Starmer going on LBC and pandering to nutters. I also don’t think as Labour leader should share a platform of with Nigel ‘I got some hard truths for you black people to hear’ Farage.

Maybe it’s just me...

I think it is exactly what he needs to do

Sky Blue Harry H · Jun 8, 2020

David O'Day said:
But they have decided that the current force are too rotten to fix so it's time to start again.

The head of the Minneapolis police union is a scumbag

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Was actually thinking of behaviour over here with regards to paramedics, firefighters, police. I realise it was a US police force that was being replaced, but still the same issue re: training/engagement. Those trying to tear down racism - fine. Those trying to tear down the establishment over here per se - no thanks.

Nick · Jun 8, 2020

ajsccfc said:
If any witchhunt SHARE THIS PHOTO is a load of bollocks I really hope it's this one

He doesn't look as if he could lift a brick.

If he did do it, city fan or not then I hope he is on the receiving end of a bit of off the record brutality. Make him stand and get kicked by a horse.

TomRad85 · Jun 8, 2020

Nick said:
He doesn't look as if he could lift a brick.

If he did do it, city fan or not then I hope he is on the receiving end of a bit of off the record brutality. Make him stand and get kicked by a horse.

Ha I was actually gonna say its seems unlikely this guy could launch a brick but thought it unfair to go in on the looks of someone who's possibly done nothing.

But now we've started, wtf is that hair all about?

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Ian1779 · Jun 8, 2020

TomRad85 said:
Plenty of traditional Labour voters also voted Brexit. As uncomfortable as it makes you I'm sure there are a good amount of people out there that would like to hear from both Starmer and Farage.

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Im not linking this to Brexit to be fair. In the context of the protests, do you really think Farage deserves a platform with his racist rhetoric?

TomRad85 · Jun 8, 2020

Ian1779 said:
Im not linking this to Brexit to be fair. In the context of the protests, do you really think Farage deserves a platform with his racist rhetoric?

Yes. You can't go around deplatforming people because you don't like what they say. Where would it end?

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Ian1779 · Jun 8, 2020

TomRad85 said:
Yes. You can't go around deplatforming people because you don't like what they say. Where would it end?

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It’s not about de-platforming. I agree that LBC listeners that voted for Brexit would want to hear from Starmer if nothing more than to reassure them he doesn’t want to row back on it and how Labour will respond in a post Brexit society.

My issue is that Farage is a flat out racist. It’s not about ‘uncomfortable hearing, it’s about the fact the guy is a liar and a bigot. It perfectly fine to say you don’t want to share a platform with him.

fernandopartridge · Jun 8, 2020

Saddlebrains said:
So they're allowed to ponse around on a motorway but we cant have a promotion celebration.

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They're not 'allowed to' they did it illegally. Christ almighty.

clint van damme · Jun 8, 2020

ajsccfc said:
If any witchhunt SHARE THIS PHOTO is a load of bollocks I really hope it's this one

If they've done it then fuck 'em but if they haven't then circulating their photo and making a false accusation should be an offence in itself.

Ring Of Steel · Jun 8, 2020

Ian1779 said:
It’s not about de-platforming. I agree that LBC listeners that voted for Brexit would want to hear from Starmer if nothing more than to reassure them he doesn’t want to row back on it and how Labour will respond in a post Brexit society.

My issue is that Farage is a flat out racist. It’s not about ‘uncomfortable hearing, it’s about the fact the guy is a liar and a bigot. It perfectly fine to say you don’t want to share a platform with him.

This is an age when people like Darren Grimes & Tom Harwood are considered worthy of copious amounts of airtime to give their expert views, and Farage has enough of an audience spouting his racist rhetoric to be a ratings winner, the issue is more that so many people cling to every word the guy says as it plays into their xenophonic views of the world. You're right, you'd like to think that a guy utilising nazi-style propaganda to further his views would have no audience, unfortunately he does. Weren't LBC were the ones who employed Katie Hopkins until she got too much for them?

Ring Of Steel · Jun 8, 2020

clint van damme said:
If they've done it then fuck 'em but if they haven't then circulating their photo and making a false accusation should be an offence in itself.

I don't know how this works, but if it wasn't them, do they have any recourse to take action?

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