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Well on the plus side he's apologised and you're now aware it's a crass and insensitive thing they did at best, racist at worst. Everyone's enlightened
Well on the plus side he's apologised and you're now aware it's a crass and insensitive thing they did at best, racist at worst. Everyone's enlightenedYou're a very condescending person and actually quite a vile person to engage with. Jumping to all sorts of conclusions over a simple question. My post history shows I'm not right wing or even against the LGBT community.
You're a very condescending person and actually quite a vile person to engage with. Jumping to all sorts of conclusions over a simple question. My post history shows I'm not right wing or even against the LGBT community.
This is correct, I did, doesn't take a genius to see that having thousands of people congregated together in a small area during an epidemic probably isn't the smartest thing to do, but also let's ignore me saying to close the borders and laying into the government for there lack of action in that regard.
Someone is targeting cats!You're wasting your time I'm afraid.
I don't think there is anything wrong with arguing all lives matter, neither is there anything wrong in wanting to put a stop to racism.
Sadly though, having that view point makes you 'ignorant' or 'racist'.
You're wasting your time I'm afraid.
I don't think there is anything wrong with arguing all lives matter, neither is there anything wrong in wanting to put a stop to racism.
Sadly though, having that view point makes you 'ignorant' or 'racist'.
What help is saying All Lives Matter? What’s the motivation for saying it? Because it comes across like a spoilt child upset someone else is getting attention at best.
I know some outright racist people. They are the only ones who get visibly upset when BLM comes up. After a while if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it’s a duck.
You're wasting your time I'm afraid.
I don't think there is anything wrong with arguing all lives matter, neither is there anything wrong in wanting to put a stop to racism.
Sadly though, having that view point makes you 'ignorant' or 'racist'.
You're wasting your time I'm afraid.
I don't think there is anything wrong with arguing all lives matter, neither is there anything wrong in wanting to put a stop to racism.
Sadly though, having that view point makes you 'ignorant' or 'racist'.
You honestly telling me you think the people using the white lives matter slogan are humanitarians or do you think in most cases they've got an agenda?
If it's the former in the case of the ex prominent BNP member behind the plane stunt I'd genuinely love to read about his epiphany.
I don't 5hink you're racist but I do think you see calls by minorities for equal treatment as in some way prejudice against you (us). That's what happens when you're part of the demographic that's called the shots for centuries.
It's 2021, time to move on.
This is the problem, quick to label people, yet do they know I'm a child of an immigrant and dating a black women? So.... Those far right racist labels don't really sit well.
This is the problem, quick to label people, yet do they know I'm a child of an immigrant and dating a black women? So.... Those far right racist labels don't really sit well.
It's irrelevant sadly. Even if you are black and don't follow the narrative all of a sudden you aren't black enough.
The problem is that people cannot see BLM actually divides more people than it brings together. The response to all lives matter is met rather aggressively which not only doesn't win anyone over, but it also suggests to me a slightly more hidden agenda.
It's sad really. I don't think much of George Floyd, but his death was outrageous and should be used as a wake up call. I think if anything the behaviour of some has resulted in this making racial tensions worse.
You appear to be inventing responses to you that aren't there.It's irrelevant sadly. Even if you are black and don't follow the narrative all of a sudden you aren't black enough.
You appear to be inventing responses to you that aren't there.
This is the problem, quick to label people, yet do they know I'm a child of an immigrant and dating a black women? So.... Those far right racist labels don't really sit well.
Im fairly sure the only person on here who ever accused someone of not being black enough is Coventrian
Protest will 'demand justice for Darren Cumberbatch' outside Cov court today
Things like this will just give the whole "white lives matter" thing more ammo, surely?
An inquest jury ruled last June that the actions of police officers - including baton strikes, other physical strikes, multiple punches, stamps, tasers and handcuffs - were a contributing factor to his death.
As reported earlier this month in our Coventry newsletter, a review into the 32-year-old's death is yet to happen as crucial court paperwork is yet to be written up a year later.
Why? If it was a member of my family I'd want answers.
The last white person I can remember been.killed in dubious circumstances by 5he police was Ian Tomlinson and the officer involved got prosecuted.
Edit - there's also the lad in Radford. Not sure what's happening with that one. Definitely something dodgy about it but it's more recent than the Cumberbatch one
Of course people will want answers about what happened, however with everything about police brutality I have only seen the guy in London who had the sign with the long list mention it and fair play to him. I doubt the majority of people will even know about the guy shot in Radford.
The guy in London's list also contained terrorist who'd been killed. Not sure that helped!
If it was just a slogan yes but its not, its a left wing movement brought over from another country and people are starting to realise this. To think there would be no blow back at all is ridiculous.Hearing Black Lives Matter should really just result in a nod of the head and agreement. Until we get to that stage, that's why the campaign is there. Once we get to that stage, there'll be no need to mention it.
Just because a movement originates in some way doesn't mean that is what it becomes. You can be as righty as you like, and still say Black Lives Matter!If it was just a slogan yes but its not, its a left wing movement brought over from another country and people are starting to realise this. To think there would be no blow back at all is ridiculous.
The Premierships Kick It Out campaign is perfect imo, we don't need black lives matter on the back of shirts and players essentially being forced to kneel before every game, its cringe for starters.
As mentioned above though, this thread is kind of going in circles and should probably be closed.
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Just because a movement originates in some way doesn't mean that is what it becomes. You can be as righty as you like, and still say Black Lives Matter!
If there was systematic racism and abuse of white people then no, it wouldn't be.Can you say White Lives Matter or does that mean you are a racist?
If there was systematic racism and abuse of white people then no, it wouldn't be.
If saying it now then yep, it would be as it would be attempting to shift discourse from one where there is an attempt to strive for equality.
If it was just a slogan yes but its not, its a left wing movement brought over from another country and people are starting to realise this. To think there would be no blow back at all is ridiculous.
The Premierships Kick It Out campaign is perfect imo, we don't need black lives matter on the back of shirts and players essentially being forced to kneel before every game, its cringe for starters.
As mentioned above though, this thread is kind of going in circles and should probably be closed.
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Nope. It's reading formation theory and how discourse is framed. *Any* movement will have a wide spectrum of beliefs. You have Liberal Tories like Johnson, and psycho Tories like Rees Mogg. You have radical lefties like Corbyn, you have moderates like Cooper.That is again what you perceive White Lives Matter to mean and what you perceive Black Lives Matter to mean based on 3 words.
The thing is you're questioning certain actions taken on its behalf like BLM on shirts which is fine to do so in my opinion.
But I think it's wrong to question it's motives. A left wing movement?
Wanting equal treatment for black people surely isnt the preseve of the left is it?
I've asked at least 3 times on this thread without answer why were armed white militia allowed to storm government buildings during antii lockdown protests while police stood and watched?
They were on the streets at the Tulsa Trump rally.
Why have white mass shooters been treated with kid gloves by police while they've shot unarmed black men or knelt on their neck for over 8 minutes until they die?
Yes, it's been exported from the States but there will always be a ripple affect in the UK from what is happening in the US. What other world leader has people so vocally supporting or opposing them in this country as Trump for example?
You're right we're going round in circles because everything I e posted above I've posted at least once before in this thread but I think we'll continue to do so until there's change.
That is again what you perceive White Lives Matter to mean and what you perceive Black Lives Matter to mean based on 3 words.
Then it comes back down to all the lefty / righty nonsense we see. Those perceptions then change to suit.
You can agree with certain parts of both without being all or nothing. You can see that systematic racism is wrong but disagree that police should be defunded. The same as you can see something from the "other" side but not be trying to shag Tommy Robinson or ordering some braces and doc martens and booking yourself in for a union jack tattoo.
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