Good Management? (2 Viewers)

dongonzalos · Nov 7, 2012

I am hoping that MR will play Cody and DMC up front to get at teams and score goals.

Then like yesterday on about 60 minutes bring people like Frank on to add to the snapping, charging down, hassling defend from further up the pitch style in order to maintain the lead.

If this happens throughout November and December, then Cody should get match fit. He can find his form out of the eye under the shadow of DMC.

Hopefully then if the worse case happens he will be scoring goals by January. Hopefully by Jan there will also be another striker kicking his heels somewhere who can come.

If this is MR's plan to me it is the most sensible, good management

Otis · Nov 7, 2012

MR said McDonald would have played in the cup tie on Saturday but was ill mid-week and therefore kept him on the bench.

skyblueinBaku · Nov 7, 2012

Careful, Don. There are some on here that don't think MR is capable of good management. You'll just start a row.

dongonzalos · Nov 7, 2012

Bloody I hope not. I liked AT I am delusional.

If I also like MR and it starts a row. Where do I turn AB, scary .........

covcity4life · Nov 7, 2012

im happy that MR is pleased with RODS attitude, he was on the bench yesterday, will MR be the first to give rod a chance to shine competitivly?

Otis · Nov 7, 2012

dongonzalos said:
Bloody I hope not. I liked AT I am delusional.

If I also like MR and it starts a row. Where do I turn AB, scary .........

I liked AT, but thought he was an awful manager. I also like MR, but I think he is a good manager.

That's where we differ.

covcity4life · Nov 7, 2012

worlds smallest violin playing just for you dongonzalos :guitar2:

i know its a guitar giff

dongonzalos · Nov 7, 2012

covcity4life said:
worlds smallest violin playing just for you dongonzalos :guitar2:

i know its a guitar giff

Appreciated

SkyBlueScottie · Nov 7, 2012

He has shown this week that he can handle players, Dropped Reckord but then bigging him up in the press and saying just how good he can be. Baker was definitely trying not to have to many touches last night and move the ball on quicker after Robins comments earlier in the week.

I am just slightly puzzled at the fact Elliot seems to have dropped off the face of the earth.

Otis · Nov 7, 2012

Can only assume he's injured. Can't believe for a minute that ROD has gone above him in the pecking order.

Not saying there's anything in it, but weren't there a few rumours when he came that he liked his 'pop' a bit too much?

Greggs · Nov 7, 2012

Cody looked rusty last night, but as good run of games is the perfect lube for that.

RichieGunns · Nov 7, 2012

Didn't the ref stop Cody when he was past the keeper and about to score? If that's him rusty, one would hope the lube will mean goals...one would hope of course!

Greggs · Nov 7, 2012

RichieGunns said:
Didn't the ref stop Cody when he was past the keeper and about to score? If that's him rusty, one would hope the lube will mean goals...one would hope of course!

A few nice touches does not equate to a fully fit footballer my friend.

stupot07 · Nov 7, 2012

RichieGunns said:
Didn't the ref stop Cody when he was past the keeper and about to score? If that's him rusty, one would hope the lube will mean goals...one would hope of course!

No the whistle had long gone before he rounded the keeper

Ash · Nov 7, 2012

He was in the right position for it though which should please MR.

stupot07 · Nov 7, 2012

Ash said:
He was in the right position for it though which should please MR.

But he was only in the right position becaused he'd tripped the defender....

tommy hutch legend · Nov 7, 2012

mr will get it right he apparantley got all the players together and asked who wanted to play for ccfc and was going to give 100 pc so maybe that explains why some players have gone off the radar

Otis said:
Can only assume he's injured. Can't believe for a minute that ROD has gone above him in the pecking order.

Not saying there's anything in it, but weren't there a few rumours when he came that he liked his 'pop' a bit too much?

kg82 · Nov 7, 2012

stupot07 said:
But he was only in the right position becaused he'd tripped the defender....

Oh my God.

RichieGunns · Nov 7, 2012

Greggs said:
A few nice touches does not equate to a fully fit footballer my friend.

I never said it did Greggs.

What i was saying was that if he can get into good positions in the physical state he's in at the moment (which isn't great!), then imagin how he "could" play once he's fully fit! Obviously i said "Could" play rather than "Will" play as im not convinced just yet...

Sky_Blue_Vickie · Nov 7, 2012

tommy hutch legend said:
mr will get it right he apparently got all the players together and asked who wanted to play for ccfc and was going to give 100 pc so maybe that explains why some players have gone off the radar

Maybe he should get all the fans together too so can split into two groups. The ones who want to get 100% behind the club and buy into what mr is trying to do. Those who can see the effect he has had already - the introduction of discipline, the extra effort and commitment, the massive upturn in results which hopefully will mean that as confidence returns there is also an upturn in performances. Or those who want to bask in negativity, who want to boo the players rather than get behind them, will always find the negatives to focus on and are generally a big part of what is wrong with our football club.

Personally in robins I believe and I remain positive of a brighter future.
PUSB

Grendel · Nov 7, 2012

Sky_Blue_Vickie said:
Maybe he should get all the fans together too so can split into two groups. The ones who want to get 100% behind the club and buy into what mr is trying to do. Those who can see the effect he has had already - the introduction of discipline, the extra effort and commitment, the massive upturn in results which hopefully will mean that as confidence returns there is also an upturn in performances. Or those who want to bask in negativity, who want to boo the players rather than get behind them, will always find the negatives to focus on and are generally a big part of what is wrong with our football club.

Personally in robins I believe and I remain positive of a brighter future.
PUSB

There is the other camp - that which thinks results would have been identikit had Thorn still been in charge - well it is a one man tent anyway.

dongonzalos · Nov 7, 2012

Grendel said:
There is the other camp - that which thinks results would have been identikit had Thorn still been in charge - well it is a one man tent anyway.

I take it that means I am not allowed to support Robins aswell.

Unfortunately life is not that black or white. However I do think results would be similar.

Yes I don't think we would have had the 5 match losing streak and I accept on this forum I am probably in the minority.

Anyway back to my origional post praising MR......

Grendel · Nov 7, 2012

dongonzalos said:
I take it that means I am not allowed to support Robins aswell.

Unfortunately life is not that black or white. However I do think results would be similar.

Yes I don't think we would have had the 5 match losing streak and I accept on thud forum I am probably in the minority.

Anyway back to my origional post praising MR......

By comparing Robins to Thorn and saying we would be comparable you are saying Robins is the joint worst manager in this clubs history.

That is offensive.

dongonzalos · Nov 7, 2012

Grendel said:
By comparing Robins to Thorn and saying we would be comparable you are saying Robins is the joint worst manager in this clubs history.

That is offensive.

You really are outrageous

dongonzalos · Nov 7, 2012

You know top six is on the cards, you know Tranmere won't even get in the play off's.
You know we have one of the best squads in this division.

You know now seeing Yeovil in 11th a draw away to them 1st game in the season was not a bad result.
However the will plummet as the season goes on due to their tiny squad.

Sky_Blue_Vickie · Nov 7, 2012

dongonzalos said:
Yes I don't think we would have had the 5 match losing streak and I accept on thud forum I am probably in the minority.

I agree that there is a good chance that we would not have had the five game loosing streak if AT had stayed but then I also don't think we would have had the subsequent good run of results. MR has shown he knows how to manage a professioanl football team. Unfortunately AT was lacking in many respects and think we would have been languishing on around 10 points now. The change was needed.

Grendel · Nov 7, 2012

dongonzalos said:
You know top six is on the cards, you know Tranmere won't even get in the play off's.
You know we have one of the best squads in this division.

You know now seeing Yeovil in 11th a draw away to them 1st game in the season was not a bad result.
However the will plummet as the season goes on due to their tiny squad.

Tranmere are top. You sound silly.

dongonzalos · Nov 7, 2012

Sky_Blue_Vickie said:
I agree that there is a good chance that we would not have had the five game loosing streak if AT had stayed but then I also don't think we would have had the subsequent good run of results. MR has shown he knows how to manage a professioanl football team. Unfortunately AT was lacking in many respects and think we would have been languishing on around 15 points now. The change was needed.

Too early for me Vicky. How any squad with 9 New players can be judged in 3 matches beggars belief.

However if they are going to do it. Don't react emotionally to 45 minutes,against Bury.

Have a plan we have seen several clubs sack their managers and have the replacement in place in a timely manner.

That decision and delay has made MR's job harder. However I still think we have a strong enough squad to do it.

dongonzalos · Nov 7, 2012

Grendel said:
Tranmere are top. You sound silly.

I am trying to not too exited about them beating a managerless bottom of the table side

Grendel · Nov 7, 2012

dongonzalos said:
Too early for me Vicky. How any squad with 9 New players can be judged in 3 matches beggars belief.

However if they are going to do it. Don't react emotionally to 45 minutes,against Bury.

Have a plan we have seen several clubs sack their managers and have the replacement in place in a timely manner.

That decision and delay has made MR's job harder. However I still think we have a strong enough squad to do it.

The "decision" saved us from certain relegation.

If Robins achieves top 12 it is a huge achievement.

Grendel · Nov 7, 2012

dongonzalos said:
I am trying to not too exited about them beating a managerless bottom of the table side

Better than drawing to one - especially having been 2 up at half time.

Sky_Blue_Vickie · Nov 7, 2012

dongonzalos said:
Too early for me Vicky. How any squad with 9 New players can be judged in 3 matches beggars belief.

However if they are going to do it. Don't react emotionally to 45 minutes,against Bury.

Have a plan we have seen several clubs sack their managers and have the replacement in place in a timely manner.

That decision and delay has made MR's job harder. However I still think we have a strong enough squad to do it.

I agree that three games was far to early to judge the team/squad with so many new recruits - unfortunately many expected them to have gelled within 5 mins of the start of the season. Personally I felt that the first two draws were reasonable results and the bury result was contributed to by the negative atmosphere from the stands.
Unfortunately I also think that as gelled AT had to many managerial weaknesses to get best out of and so if we wanted to move forward needed new manager - agree that should have been dealt with more swiftly once decision made and those lost points might just make the difference at the end of season. I still do believe playoffs are a realistic possibility if we continue on our current form.

Grendel · Nov 7, 2012

Sky_Blue_Vickie said:
I agree that three games was far to early to judge the team/squad with so many new recruits - unfortunately many expected them to have gelled within 5 mins of the start of the season. Personally I felt that the first two draws were reasonable results and the bury result was contributed to by the negative atmosphere from the stands.
Unfortunately I also think that as gelled AT had to many managerial weaknesses to get best out of and so if we wanted to move forward needed new manager - agree that should have been dealt with more swiftly once decision made and those lost points might just make the difference at the end of season. I still do believe playoffs are a realistic possibility if we continue on our current form.

There is no point in developing a rationale argument to Mrs Thorn. It's wasted.

dongonzalos · Nov 7, 2012

Sky_Blue_Vickie said:
I agree that three games was far to early to judge the team/squad with so many new recruits - unfortunately many expected them to have gelled within 5 mins of the start of the season. Personally I felt that the first two draws were reasonable results and the bury result was contributed to by the negative atmosphere from the stands.
Unfortunately I also think that as gelled AT had to many managerial weaknesses to get best out of and so if we wanted to move forward needed new manager - agree that should have been dealt with more swiftly once decision made and those lost points might just make the difference at the end of season. I still do believe playoffs are a realistic possibility if we continue on our current form.

Nice to have and adult like discussion on the matter

Grendel · Nov 8, 2012

dongonzalos said:
Nice to have and adult like discussion on the matter

If adult means high on rhetoric and very low on facts and stastical analysis then I will remain a juvenile thanks.

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