I'm completely on board with you. But it isn't me you have to convince.
It's those who think short term and what am I getting NOW. They literally can't think long term, so if they can't see this apocalyptic future happening right in front of their face right now it isn't happening at all. Unless cracks are appearing in the earth's crust and lava spewing out across the planet and the seas were boiling they will not believe catastrophe is on the way. It's all alarmist nonsense in their eyes because they can't see it.
They've seen too many disaster movies where things don't happen slowly and gradually over time - they happen immediately and devastatingly and nothing could have stopped or prevented them in their eyes. For some it will be a simple as "God's will".
It's no point saying "at least there will be an economy left for you to benefit from" to them because for them it's "we'll have one anyway if we don't, just a lot bigger one than if we do this hippie crap because this stuff isn't happening"
You have to put yourself in their shoes and think like they do. What matters to them? Money. So how do you get them to follow your course of action? Get them to believe there is money in your course of action. Railways were rejected for quite some time despite the benefits to the population and infrastructure on the whole using quite spurious reasons and outrageous claims like the human body wouldn't be able to cope with the velocity until someone said there was money to be made. Work started almost immediately after that.
"To beat the enemy you must become the enemy"
I find it the most interesting to hear about ‘establishment scientists’ and Thunberg being an eco shill when we know for a fact that fossil fuel companies pay mediocre scientists well to produce half arsed research that denies the problem. Yet it’s apparently virtually all the other scientists in the world in on a government conspiracy
But remember dear little Owen Jones says 16 year olds are incapable of forming adult opinions
Owen Jones can be and has been wrong
I’d say the majority are.So generally you’d accept 16 year olds are capable of independent thought?
So generally you’d accept 16 year olds are capable of independent thought?
So generally you’d accept 16 year olds are capable of independent thought?
I’d say the majority are.
Good perhaps tell Owen Jones
I don’t actually know him, do you?Good perhaps tell Owen Jones
Tell him yourself G maybe you'll get a signed book
I have told him. Mr Jones seemed to believe that only the right wing murder MPs Muslims Jews or well anyone really.
The majority of MPs killed last century were by a left wing republican army.
Me Jones of course forgot that and immediately condemned it. Sadly evidence then emerged Mr Jones was a passionate supporter of the army and considered the uk parliament and it’s people as an enemy state
It’s ok though as Mr Jones was only 15 (he was 16 but I guess his memory of his date of birth is fuzzy) and apparently children can’t be held accountable as they believe silly things
This is the same mr Jones that champions Greta Thunberg and believes 16 year olds must have the vote
He certainly is an embodiment of the left
Yet you had no qualms about voting for a party happy to put a candidate forward who was also a fan of theirs?
I have told him. Mr Jones seemed to believe that only the right wing murder MPs Muslims Jews or well anyone really.
The majority of MPs killed last century were by a left wing republican army.
Me Jones of course forgot that and immediately condemned it. Sadly evidence then emerged Mr Jones was a passionate supporter of the army and considered the uk parliament and it’s people as an enemy state
It’s ok though as Mr Jones was only 15 (he was 16 but I guess his memory of his date of birth is fuzzy) and apparently children can’t be held accountable as they believe silly things
This is the same mr Jones that champions Greta Thunberg and believes 16 year olds must have the vote
He certainly is an embodiment of the left
Yeah but Greta Thunberg isn’t potentially going to whip one in from 25 yards to win us promotion back to the premiership.Weird how people aren't this arsed about kids giving up their education for something they care about or their childhoods being 'ruined' when it's thousands of lads up and down the country trying to become pro footballers.
far right and in this country it's that same part of the spectrum that poses the fastest growing terror threat.
The fastest growing terror threat doesn't mean that the far right are blowing kids up at music concerts or beheading people in the street though does it?
The threat of Islamic terror attacks is massively higher. Please stop with this vague bullshit that just amounts to political point scoring.
Yes, of course. Many are for sure.So generally you’d accept 16 year olds are capable of independent thought?
This.Owen Jones can be and has been wrong
The fastest growing terror threat doesn't mean that the far right are blowing kids up at music concerts or beheading people in the street though does it?
The threat of Islamic terror attacks is massively higher. Please stop with this vague bullshit that just amounts to political point scoring.
It isn’t vague bullshit when you look at what’s going on in the US.
Owen Jones can be and has been wrong
The fastest growing terror threat doesn't mean that the far right are blowing kids up at music concerts or beheading people in the street though does it?
The threat of Islamic terror attacks is massively higher. Please stop with this vague bullshit that just amounts to political point scoring.
Yes, of course. Many are for sure.
Why then do so many change their opinions towards the right when they get older?
Why then do so many change their opinions towards the right when they get older?
Insanity...Take your pick:
Becoming better off financially and more disconnected from issues affecting low earners or young people
Wanting to keep things as they were in the good old days
Pension bribes
The fastest growing terror threat doesn't mean that the far right are blowing kids up at music concerts or beheading people in the street though does it?
The threat of Islamic terror attacks is massively higher. Please stop with this vague bullshit that just amounts to political point scoring.
It's a pretty socially conservative ideology, too.A lot of the 'far-right' killings in the US are religious nutcases killing people because they refuse to live by their beliefs and see those people as evil heathens. Doesn't that sound a bit familiar to the Islamic terror threat?
Insanity...
Maturity
So what about BSB's points? Going to argue with them rather than the clearly tongue-in-cheek response you have replied to?
His “points” are the ramblings of a school child - what does pension bribe even mean
People move to centrist politics when they grow up. Young people do by and large nit pay much tax, do not have to make big life changing decisions and can have a fun time doing a protest on a sunny day
Just look at the Squeeker and his far right ramblings from the past - doubt he wants to be reminded of them
His “points” are the ramblings of a school child - what does pension bribe even mean
People move to centrist politics when they grow up. Young people do by and large nit pay much tax, do not have to make big life changing decisions and can have a fun time doing a protest on a sunny day
Just look at the Squeeker and his far right ramblings from the past - doubt he wants to be reminded of them
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