mark82
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I read it that they were quoted that price recently, rather than the player was in the league recently.
Are people missing the recently part? Which implies it was a striker on loan from a Premier League club he’s talking about. Could be Balogun who they had?
do you think he’s talking about gyokeres
I'm not sure why you are just constantly looking for arguments on here?
do you think he’s talking about gyokeres
Ok…you’ve seen him.Actually I went to Forest a few times last season due to a few friends of mine being ST holders. He's a special talent and it's of no surprise a top 6 PL club is actively looking to sign him. If anything IMO £15m rising to £20m is a steal.
How can you say the criteria can be said more of Gyokeres given the stark difference in the stature of clubs interested in both players? The most definitive interest in Gyokeres so far in this window is Middlesbrough?
Given at Spence's age Gyokeres was struggling to get a game for Swansea, Spence quite clearly has a far brighter future than him.
Ok…you’ve seen him.
I think that last paragraph is nonsense. On that basis players like Ian Wright or Jamie Vardy are absolute shite!
As you’ve agreed, strikers go for more money than fullbacks. We’re not really discussing who is the better player or who has the brighter future…we’re talking about how much money they will go for.
I therefore think it’s not inconceivable that Gyokeres is ‘worth’ as much as Spence.
You’ve just proved my point. You don’t need in-depth tactical knowledge to see the points I’m makingWell he is an attacking midfielder paid to score or assist goals right? I fear the meltdown if palmer starts actually producing and ohare gets dropped.
Well, it’s not unprecedented that a striker will move within the championship for £15mil, which is the figure that was said here…I’d be amazed if he went for £20-£25mil as potentially quoted elsewhere.The difference being, one is wanted by a Top 6 PL side with ambitions of Champions League whilst the others strongest suitor is a mid-table Championship side.
No Championship club is paying another Championship club the sort of fees quoted for Gyökeres or anyone else. This is why I think we'll keep hold of him for now.
The difference being, one is wanted by a Top 6 PL side with ambitions of Champions League whilst the others strongest suitor is a mid-table Championship side.
No Championship club is paying another Championship club the sort of fees quoted for Gyökeres or anyone else. This is why I think we'll keep hold of him for now.
Ambitions? I thought it was Spurs who want him who qualified for CL, if you’re talking about Spence?
It's happened once ever & that was 5 years ago to a relegated club with parachute payments.
Fees are going down in the Championship not up.
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So, not unprecedented then!It's happened once ever & that was 5 years ago to a relegated club with parachute payments.
Fees are going down in the Championship not up.
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Assombolonga was it? Rhodes went for a big fee too Championship to Championship
Not quite the right list but still the top championship signings…Yes, given that it was Boro then too & they ended up giving Assombalonga away for free I'm pretty sure they won't be risking similar again!
Think Rhodes was about £8m a decade ago.
Largest Championship to Championship deal in last few seasons was Harry Arter from Bournemouth to Forest for allegedly c.£5m although I don't believe given his lack of appearances that Forest ever paid anywhere near that. Either way, another unmitigated disaster
Ok…you’ve seen him.
I think that last paragraph is nonsense. On that basis players like Ian Wright or Jamie Vardy are absolute shite!
As you’ve agreed, strikers go for more money than fullbacks. We’re not really discussing who is the better player or who has the brighter future…we’re talking about how much money they will go for.
I therefore think it’s not inconceivable that Gyokeres is ‘worth’ as much as Spence.
Oh man. By the looks of it you might give Gyokeres to them for free
If he stays we have little wriggle room to improve the squad which is Gyok Ohare and Hamer all improve again next season might not be such a bad thing
If he stays we have little wriggle room to improve the squad which is Gyok Ohare and Hamer all improve again next season might not be such a bad thing
I think it kinda does. I’m sure if we were to go through the league’s history we could come up with countless players who have developed later than others, or countless players who have been excellent when young ie that faded to have mediocre careers. I don’t think either of us can be bothered to do that.
I’ve accepted your point, as @Frostie points out, a transfer fee to another championship club is unlikely to be the same as Spence commands, if he goes to Spurs for £15mil. Given the more recent decline in money spent by championship clubs on other championship players.
It’s entirely relevant.But saying he might not because countless players haven't isn't really all that relevant. The point is at present he is a player that is considered to have a very bright career ahead of him and that's supported by the fact Spence is attracting serious interest from Spurs and Gyokeres' only definitive interest so far has been from a mid-table Championship side. Both might flop or one may oust the other completely, but at present I know who I'd happily put my money on.
Exactly, the aftereffects from the pandemic have to be factored in as there's clearly a significant correlation there. Championship clubs, apart from Bournemouth and Fulham, are now far more hesitant/unable to pay big fees on players.
Didn't Besiktas say they were quoted 10 million euros for Gyo which they thought was way too much?
What do you think the reasoning behind that is?He'll never admit it but I bet MR would quite like to move Hamer on sooner rather than later.
Money to invest and wages for different playersWhat do you think the reasoning behind that is?
What do you think the reasoning behind that is?
His contract will be within budgetHamer's new contract is likely completely financially unsustainable in the long run and he's one that Robins feels he can probably most afford to lose out of the three. At a guess.
It’s not some itk have saidHis contract will be within budget
Nah Rupert knows betterIt’s not some itk have said
Some posters on here give the impression they are quite happy to lose Hamer and/ or Gyokeres for whatever fee the potential buying club see fit to offer us. Feels like I am in a minority thinking we should keep them unless someone offers us a ridiculous fee. I would rather we see where we are in January or at the end of the season, taking that chance on injuries or loss of form. To me the upside outweighs the downside. Despite what some seem to think, these players will not easily be replaced. Get it wrong and we could easily become relegation candidates.
We have a thin squad and the wages for o hare and hamer can’t be sustained. We need to sell one to avoid borrowing more Wonga loans
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