Sbarcher
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Hopefully another 2 add-ons will be kicking in before any sale.
Hopefully another 2 add-ons will be kicking in before any sale.4 games left and 7 points ahead so he's about to win the league there and take home the golden boot. Fantastic achievement.
He'll be guaranteed Champions League football next season even if he stays there (which he won't, I've heard Arsenal is nailed on).
Genuinely might end up being the best player we've ever had here. Definitely in modern times.
He has alot to do if he's going to better than Robbie Keane. Not even close yet. Keane had about 100 premier league goals by the age 26.4 games left and 7 points ahead so he's about to win the league there and take home the golden boot. Fantastic achievement.
He'll be guaranteed Champions League football next season even if he stays there (which he won't, I've heard Arsenal is nailed on).
Genuinely might end up being the best player we've ever had here. Definitely in modern times.
Dublin also has to be better surelyHe has alot to do if he's going to better than Robbie Keane. Not even close yet. Keane had about 100 premier league goals by the age 26.
I'd settle for 2nd best.
My son reckons Gyokores best ever....I'm afraid few of us older ones have put him right.
Now your stretching modern day. Keano just get in as it's 2000s.Dublin also has to be better surely
Ohhh modern day yeah makes sense then, to be fair I’d say last 10/15 years is modern dayNow your stretching modern day. Keano just get in as it's 2000s.
What does modern day even mean.
I wonder how Dublin would get on if playing now, don't see anywhere near as many headers scored now do we? People saying he's not modern day does give me a bit of a reminder i'm not as young as i might actDublin also has to be better surely
I bet he’d still be lethal for a team whipping balls in, but he wasnt just good in the air he was also a bloody good finisherI wonder how Dublin would get on if playing now, don't see anywhere near as many headers scored now do we? People saying he's not modern day does give me a bit of a reminder i'm not as young as i might act
Someone like him would still be as effective. It’s in the wide areas and at CB where the game has changed mostI wonder how Dublin would get on if playing now, don't see anywhere near as many headers scored now do we? People saying he's not modern day does give me a bit of a reminder i'm not as young as i might act
If he goes to Arsenal or similar and wins the Prem/CL he quickly becomes the greatest player we've had here surely.He has alot to do if he's going to better than Robbie Keane. Not even close yet. Keane had about 100 premier league goals by the age 26.
I'd settle for 2nd best.
My son reckons Gyokores best ever....I'm afraid few of us older ones have put him right.
Nothing, absolutely nothing will dislodge Mick Harford's one from one.If he goes to Arsenal or similar and wins the Prem/CL he quickly becomes the greatest player we've had here surely.
By that measure so is Jordan HendersonIf he goes to Arsenal or similar and wins the Prem/CL he quickly becomes the greatest player we've had here surely.
By that measure so is Jordan Henderson
He was just a loan. Does that count?Bizarrely he probably should be classed as one of them, certainly in recent times. 80 caps and captained England as well as winning a title etc
He’s a player we had here so I’d say so.He was just a loan. Does that count?
Coming back to these deal details... if the 15% sell on is based on "capital gains" then I think that means a 100M transfer fee received for Gyokeres would net us 11.1M EUR if the 4M EUR of "individual and collective" targets have already been met.Sporting have communicated to the Securities Market Commission (CMVM) the values involved in their 2023 transfer market deals, with player entries and exits, including bonuses and commission values.
The club reveals that they paid out an initial €20m (£17.5) to City for the Sweden international, with another €4m due in bonuses “added upon achieving objectives,” which are usually based on the usual performance criteria of the number of games played and goals scored. That could see Coventry eventually receive a total of €24m, which is just short of £21m.
The deal also included two million euros in commission, paid for intermediation in the deal (basically agents fees), taking the overall cost of the transfer to Sporting to €26m. The document, which is reported by Portuguese outlet ojogo.pt, also says that Coventry City retains 15 percent of future capital gains (sell-on clause), which can be reduced by up to 10%.
The Swedish international’s former club, it says, is entitled to “15 percent of future capital gains, which can be reduced up to 10 percent at the option of Sporting SAD, or depending on the partial achievement of individual and collective objectives.”
I think Sporting will say that if clubs really want him after just a season it’s the release clause or no dice. And given who’s interested, those clubs can afford it and will likely pay it.Coming back to these deal details... if the 15% sell on is based on "capital gains" then I think that means a 100M transfer fee received for Gyokeres would net us 11.1M EUR if the 4M EUR of "individual and collective" targets have already been met.
Some hasty maths...
100M - 26M in costs for Sporting (that includes the 2M of agent fees) = 74M EUR capital gain for Sporting - 10% of which is 7.4M EUR
If none of the 4M bonuses are paid (feels very unlikely given the "individual and collective" performance of Sporting & Gyok):
100M - 22M in costs for Sporting (that includes the 2M of agent fees) = 78M EUR capital gain for Sporting - 15% of which is 11.7M EUR
So if a 100M EUR deal is reached for Gyokeres, then we'd net around £9.75M to £10M on the kick back.
Lots of people getting confused about how this works quite rightly and assuming we get 15% of 100M or 15M EUR or £13M. We'd need a serious bidding war - I would be amazed if he actually goes for 100M even though I think he could command this sort of fee - you need a couple of clubs to get there I think - Sporting may cash in at a lower valuation.
Coming back to these deal details... if the 15% sell on is based on "capital gains" then I think that means a 100M transfer fee received for Gyokeres would net us 11.1M EUR if the 4M EUR of "individual and collective" targets have already been met.
Some hasty maths...
100M - 26M in costs for Sporting (that includes the 2M of agent fees) = 74M EUR capital gain for Sporting - 10% of which is 7.4M EUR
If none of the 4M bonuses are paid (feels very unlikely given the "individual and collective" performance of Sporting & Gyok):
100M - 22M in costs for Sporting (that includes the 2M of agent fees) = 78M EUR capital gain for Sporting - 15% of which is 11.7M EUR
So if a 100M EUR deal is reached for Gyokeres, then we'd net around £9.75M to £10M on the kick back.
Lots of people getting confused about how this works quite rightly and assuming we get 15% of 100M or 15M EUR or £13M. We'd need a serious bidding war - I would be amazed if he actually goes for 100M even though I think he could command this sort of fee - you need a couple of clubs to get there I think - Sporting may cash in at a lower valuation.
I'm not totally up to speed with who has the budget (considering all the FFP stuff flying around) to drop 100M this summer. Liverpool certainly could if a Saudi team comes in for Sala. I know Arsenal were talked about as having scouted Gyok too, but not sure how much they have to spend.€100m in today’s market for a striker is not that ridiculous. With Sporting having a high sell-on clause they’re going to maximise their gains too.
Gyokeres has the same amount of goals (with 2 games remaining) in the Portuguese league as Nunez the season before Liverpool spent €100 million signing him.
Not including loans. We owned Robbie Keane.By that measure so is Jordan Henderson
I know what you mean about Chelsea but if they sell Gallagher and palm a few off to Saudi, there’ll be funds. Silva will be off the wage bill. It’s possible.Surely Chelsea are out of the running due to FFP? Hard to see Liverpool dropping another big fee on a striker so soon after the last one. That leaves Arsenal. Could Spurs afford him?
To me it seems pretty obvious this was a very smart stepping stone move for him but if Amorim does stay at Sporting, there's definitely an argument that he stays to have a crack in the Champion's League.Has he said he wants to leave? Rumours that the Sporting manager will stay for another year and he wants Vik also to stay on an improved contract. Interesting times.
I don’t think Palm a will leave.!I know what you mean about Chelsea but if they sell Gallagher and palm a few off to Saudi, there’ll be funds. Silva will be off the wage bill. It’s possible.
A new Liverpool manager will want a marquee signing, especially if they can still get a good fee for Salah.
I don’t think Palm a will leave.!
He's turned into Harry bloody Kane! -2 goals in a minute late on tonight.
Worth remembering he (very likely) gets Champion's League football at Sporting next season - but I do think that is a big ask for them to succeed there.40 in 46 with 15 assists is absolutely mental numbers
You’d have to think he’ll want Champions league football so that’ll rule out Tottenham and Chelsea (who can’t be spending another £90 million on one player anyway). Man Utd have a big enough name that they could probably lure him but would need to sell a bunch of overpaid players first. Liverpool probably need to persevere with Nunez considering his price.
Leaves only Arsenal realistically, and across the continent probably only Real Madrid have the finances to meet the release clause, and they’ve signed Mbappe already.
With Sporting I think it’s more, if that amount of money comes in, would they even want him to stay? That’s a huge transfer fee that can only diminish as time goes on.Worth remembering he (very likely) gets Champion's League football at Sporting next season - but I do think that is a big ask for them to succeed there.
The format is also going to be vastly different in 24/25 so who knows how that will pan out:
New format for Champions League post-2024: Everything you need to know | UEFA Champions League
The 2024/25 edition of the UEFA Champions League will follow a new format. We explain what will change, what will stay the same, what it means for fans and how it impacts UEFA's other club competitions.www.uefa.com
Of course, but if those bids don't come in at the right level then he might be convinced to stay if Amorim also stays. Both are a stretch though, suspect both intend to move onto the right opportunity as soon as it comes.With Sporting I think it’s more a case of, if that amount of money comes in, would they even want him to stay? That’s a huge transfer fee that can only diminish as time goes on.
Might be a case of Sporting getting their bones picked in the summer, seeing Hjulmand linked with Man Utd as well, and clubs linked with Marcus Edwards too.
Coming back to these deal details... if the 15% sell on is based on "capital gains" then I think that means a 100M transfer fee received for Gyokeres would net us 11.1M EUR if the 4M EUR of "individual and collective" targets have already been met.
Some hasty maths...
100M - 26M in costs for Sporting (that includes the 2M of agent fees) = 74M EUR capital gain for Sporting - 10% of which is 7.4M EUR
If none of the 4M bonuses are paid (feels very unlikely given the "individual and collective" performance of Sporting & Gyok):
100M - 22M in costs for Sporting (that includes the 2M of agent fees) = 78M EUR capital gain for Sporting - 15% of which is 11.7M EUR
So if a 100M EUR deal is reached for Gyokeres, then we'd net around £9.75M to £10M on the kick back.
Lots of people getting confused about how this works quite rightly and assuming we get 15% of 100M or 15M EUR or £13M. We'd need a serious bidding war - I would be amazed if he actually goes for 100M even though I think he could command this sort of fee - you need a couple of clubs to get there I think - Sporting may cash in at a lower valuation.
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