Hamer (9 Viewers)

[Alkhen]

he doesn’t “love cov” as your whole post proves

How so? you can love a job but know it is time to leave?

I love my job but if another company offered me double to do the same job in better facilities I'd be gone. I'd feel sad and wish them well but when you talk about doubling your money that's like adding a year onto your earning potential. Life's short you have to take the breaks

 

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[Flying Fokker]

At The end of the day he cost us 1 million Or whatever it was. He’s added that in bucket loads. if he goes for nothing at the end of the season he’ll have played his part in the deal in that his goals and assists etc have been key. I guess the next 3 weeks will tell us whether we will make a buck on him.

 

[SJ80]

I do think he loves the club and it’s fans but I agree you can love all of it but if someone comes in for you and offers to potentially doublee your salary it’s going to be a head turner for anyone , really hope he stays even if he just sees out his contract with us ! But please don’t go Leicester !

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

How so? you can love a job but know it is time to leave?

I love my job but if another company offered me double to do the same job in better facilities I'd be gone. I'd feel sad and wish them well but when you talk about doubling your money that's like adding a year onto your earning potential. Life's short you have to take the breaks

Then you'd probably also be straight up about it with your employer to give them fair time to replace you and move on.

 

[Alkhen]

Then you'd probably also be straight up about it with your employer to give them fair time to replace you and move on.

How do you know he hasn't?

 

[Grendel]

How do you know he hasn't?

the managers comments?

 

[Grendel]

How so? you can love a job but know it is time to leave?

I love my job but if another company offered me double to do the same job in better facilities I'd be gone. I'd feel sad and wish them well but when you talk about doubling your money that's like adding a year onto your earning potential. Life's short you have to take the breaks

because emotional attachment means you give consideration to your lovers feelings and not leave them spurned and penniless

 

[robbiekeane]

“I don’t like how hard he’s trying” is a new one I’ve got to admit

Couldn’t make it up

 

[robbiekeane]

Put it this way

If he goes to Leeds then the blokes clearly arsed about money and he can fuck himself.

What the fuck is wrong with you? Of course he’s bothered about money it’s his bloody job. Do you think they’re charity workers?
One of the most juvenile thinks I’ve read on here

 

[mmttww]

I don’t watch that rather tedious programme

 

[mmttww]

Could O'Hare move back and play as an 8?

 

[SHUNT31]

Could O'Hare move back and play as an 8?

No

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Well no - we buy players that show a net balance on sales to purchases

To add on to your point, the signings we’ve made that cost money have largely been successful.

We’ve gone from being a L1 side, Championship relegation battle to competing at the top table of the league. Some players are going to become surplus to requirements as our goals get loftier.

 

[mmttww]

No

What's he missing? Only thing I can think of is longer range passes. Maybe positional awareness if he's never played deeper. He's got the engine, close control, drives us up the pitch, wins the ball back well, good skill and passing in tight spaces.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Money can be exchanged for goods and services


Don't worry, this gem wasn't lost on everyone

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Couldn’t make it up

And yet it was made up!

 

[PlasticPigsAtTheValley]

What's he missing? Only thing I can think of is longer range passes. Maybe positional awareness if he's never played deeper. He's got the engine, close control, drives us up the pitch, wins the ball back well, good skill and passing in tight spaces.

I've always kind of agreed with this take. I think he would have potential as an 8, with the exception of his long-range passing as you said. I always thought that COH is low-key quite good defensively, at least in the sense that he wasn't afraid to track back and get stuck in, but I suppose that doesn't exactly translate to him being equally successful in a deeper position. But I seem to remember him being in and around the box defensively, getting involved, especially when we launched counter-attacks? Been so long since I've seen him play, I could be making things up now!

I think he's just too good an asset in the 10 role to really sacrifice his ability in order to test him in the 8 position. Though if we find ourselves in a situation where we have injuries and an overload of quality competing for the 10, like if Tats comes good and Palmer is firing, then who knows, maybe COH could be deployed there in a scenario where Hamer is sold last minute and we can't find a replacement. Wouldn't surprise me!

 

[pusbccfc]

Would he get booed away at Leeds in December?

 

[pusbccfc]

What's he missing? Only thing I can think of is longer range passes. Maybe positional awareness if he's never played deeper. He's got the engine, close control, drives us up the pitch, wins the ball back well, good skill and passing in tight spaces.

O'Hare is not an 8. Not got the physicality and aggression. He's an attacking midfielder who takes risks and should stay there.

We need to replace Hamer with a ready made midfielder.

 

[Martin180]

What's he missing? Only thing I can think of is longer range passes. Maybe positional awareness if he's never played deeper. He's got the engine, close control, drives us up the pitch, wins the ball back well, good skill and passing in tight spaces.

So he's missing positional awareness and long range passing ?
Think you answered the question yourself

 

[ccfc1234]

There have been some superb players over the years with all the attributes to play various positions but they dont as to be a 0.001% player ( rougly estimated odds of being a professional footballer) is hard enough but to be able to operate at a very high level in more than one position is even less likely. Harry Kane would look fine playing at CM in league one. But in the premiership would be badly exposed.
COH while having decent on paper attributes to play in a deeper role, imo would be exposed in a positional sense and lacks the physicality and tackling ability of Hamer. I am not sure how good COHs range of long passing is but as I have not seen him use it many times, I suspect their not his party piece either!!

 

[Martin180]

O' Hare playing number 8 makes as much sense as Dabo playing cdm

 

[mmttww]

Think you answered the question yourself

Dont be a smartarse. Hamer's developed in to an almost complete no. 8 at this level. We won't be buying someone as good as him out of the box if he leaves - they either don't exist or we couldn't afford them.

Whoever takes his spot is going to have at least one weakness vs. Hamer. Someone else said O'Hare doesn't have the aggression for that role - don't agree with that. He pressed and won the ball back more than most in the League.

 

[Martin180]

Dont be a smartarse. Hamer's developed in to an almost complete no. 8 at this level. We won't be buying someone as good as him out of the box if he leaves - they either don't exist or we couldn't afford them.

Whoever takes his spot is going to have at least one weakness vs. Hamer. Someone else said he doesn't have the aggression for that role - don't agree with that. He pressed and won the ball back more than most in the League.

Wasn't trying to be a smartarse but you identified two crucial parts of being a number 8
We don't need square pegs anymore , if Gus goes we will find a replacement or two more suited to the role

 

[mmttww]

...makes as much sense as Dabo playing cdm

If you've got an opinion of your own that isn't repeating other people's jokes, let's hear it.

 

[Martin180]

If you've got an opinion of your own that isn't repeating other people's jokes, let's hear it.

My opinion is O'Hare isn't a number 8 and Dabo should never have been suggested as a midfielder

 

[shmmeee]

What's he missing? Only thing I can think of is longer range passes. Maybe positional awareness if he's never played deeper. He's got the engine, close control, drives us up the pitch, wins the ball back well, good skill and passing in tight spaces.

Doesn’t have the strength or passing range for CM IMO.

 

[CCFC54321]

A replacement for me would someone that can set us going from deep positions with hamers range of passing that helps us spring attacks a lot quicker.

This needs to be resolved by the end of this month. We can’t afford to let him go on a free. I’ve been reliably told it’s what’s the club is prepared to pay him vs Hamers salary demands is the issue here. It can’t be a couple of grand we’re talking about it must be a lot more. Unless both parties are playing a game of chicken.

 

[Gint11]

I heard his demand was 22k a week and that’s now been met?

 

[Chris1987]

I heard his demand was 22k a week and that’s now been met?

Out of interest where did you here this ?;

 

[Saddlebrains]

What the fuck is wrong with you? Of course he’s bothered about money it’s his bloody job. Do you think they’re charity workers?
One of the most juvenile thinks I’ve read on here

Your mum

 

[Sick Boy]

Out of interest where did you here this ?;

It probably originated from rumours on here.

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

A

Out of interest where did you here this ?;

At the local golf club

 

[Gint11]

Out of interest where did you hear this ?;

On here tbf

 

[SHUNT31]

What's he missing? Only thing I can think of is longer range passes. Maybe positional awareness if he's never played deeper. He's got the engine, close control, drives us up the pitch, wins the ball back well, good skill and passing in tight spaces.

COH is a 10. He doesn’t have the passing or defensive ability to play as an 8. He’s not going start spreading play like Hamer does either. He’s great as a 10 because of his movement and passes in tight areas around the box, 1-2’s etc and his work rate. You move him deeper and it will be a detriment to the good effect he has on the team.