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Skybluedownunder

Skybluedownunder

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What I don’t understand is all the little clues in the Coventry videos alude to that he has signed already and they’ve been waiting to release to media. For that to have not happened seems very weird to have had the timer in the gym and then the cone on the field.

£15m is good money and great for a rebuild, such a shame we’ve missed out on Jason Knight as he would have been ideal


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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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Robinshio said:
huddersfield and Luton got in the play offs last year, Barnsley the year before - the normal is that there is room for 1 or 2 teams to over perform
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Huddersfield were still receiving parachute payments. Luton and Barnsley didn’t make the final those years - yes you always get 1 team in there but the final is very rarely two teams like us and Luton
 
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Skybluedownunder said:
What I don’t understand is all the little clues in the Coventry videos alude to that he has signed already and they’ve been waiting to release to media. For that to have not happened seems very weird to have had the timer in the gym and then the cone on the field.

£15m is good money and great for a rebuild, such a shame we’ve missed out on Jason Knight as he would have been ideal


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Surely the timer in the gym was just a scoreboard to count the number of reps done by a certain player? (In this case, #38)
 
pusbccfc

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Samo said:
Why on earth would you think they haven't planned for that eventuality? That would be absurdly stupid.
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I agree with Fernando, I really don't see us being prepared to sell Hamer.

Equally, I see Hamer extremely difficult to replace. Possibly more challenging than Vik.
 
Mucca Mad Boys

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Londonccfcfan said:
As a pair there isnt even an argument. Shame our rebuild wont be built around the pair of them.
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Wouldn’t be much of a ‘rebuild’ if we keep the star players. The cost of losing the playoffs was the potential loss our two superstars.

If we got £15m for Hamer, that’s a v good deal to be honest.

Robins and his staff aren’t naive, they will have plans for Hamer leaving. So far, our signings have been solid and the squad will be of a higher standard overall. Albeit without the star quality we had last season.
 
cooperskyblue

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The fact is at all football clubs there is a natural progression of players. This summer was/is a big one as we are signing players & building the foundation and spine of our side for the next several seasons. So it is crucial we get it right and so far I think these signings look that way.

We all become very emotional about players and how they are "going to be really difficult to replace". I remember the year we won L1, Liam Walsh was "irreplaceable", yet we did it with Hamer.
Gyokeres we have turned into a £20m player and now have a younger striker who again can be developed by Robins to be the next big asset and fans favourite.

With Hamer, of course he would be a big big loss but there are players out there who we might not know about (like Hamer) who can be the next assets.
Just got to trust in our coaching staff & recruitment team to do their jobs.
 
Mucca Mad Boys

Mucca Mad Boys

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cooperskyblue said:
The fact is at all football clubs there is a natural progression of players. This summer was/is a big one as we are signing players & building the foundation and spine of our side for the next several seasons. So it is crucial we get it right and so far I think these signings look that way.

We all become very emotional about players and how they are "going to be really difficult to replace". I remember the year we won L1, Liam Walsh was "irreplaceable", yet we did it with Hamer.
Gyokeres we have turned into a £20m player and now have a younger striker who again can be developed by Robins to be the next big asset and fans favourite.

With Hamer, of course he would be a big big loss but there are players out there who we might not know about (like Hamer) who can be the next assets.
Just got to trust in our coaching staff & recruitment team to do their jobs.
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Exactly, players come and go. If Hamer is unwilling to sign the best terms we can offer, then we have to extract the most value out of him.

He is good enough for the Premiership so it’s natural to want that progression. If we can get 2-4 good quality permanent signings out of his fee, it’s good value.
 
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Skybluedownunder said:
What I don’t understand is all the little clues in the Coventry videos alude to that he has signed already and they’ve been waiting to release to media. For that to have not happened seems very weird to have had the timer in the gym and then the cone on the field.

£15m is good money and great for a rebuild, such a shame we’ve missed out on Jason Knight as he would have been ideal


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We all took it mean contract but it just could have been to do with fitness I suppose.
 
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DrPoolittle

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If the club sell Hamer, it has cock all to do with the club's ambition and everything to do with the player's intent. Hamer can sign for a new club in January and CCFC risk losing a huge transfer fee.
Hamer can earn a significant amount more at Burnley and get a signing-on fee and play in the PL, so it makes perfect sense for him.

As for replacements, Cov have long been linked with Louie Sibley from Derby. He might not be the actual replacement but the club is clearly actively scouting.

A couple of weeks ago, I was more confident that Hamer would stay. Now, I am confident he will leave. No different from when Robbie Keane demanded to leave
 
Frostie

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pusbccfc said:
I agree with Fernando, I really don't see us being prepared to sell Hamer.

Equally, I see Hamer extremely difficult to replace. Possibly more challenging than Vik.
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Robins had expected to lose Hamer last summer & so definitely had an idea of a replacement then.

Times change though, those players may have moved on, signed new deals etc. etc. We also have a new recruitment team of course. There will be names on the table though for sure, MR is not naïve enough to think after the season he had that Hamer wouldn't be in demand.
 
Sick Boy

Sick Boy

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Levship20 said:
No just polite, likes to add to a normal debate and someone who is friends with a premiership player and basically knows how a lot of this works. Sorry if you were offended by a normal point raised 👍🏻
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I’m not offended at all.
I just can’t believe that someone would actually think that Hamer is being prevented from a signing a new contract against his wishes because of his agent, or that agents are hired and retained by players despite working to against their wishes and seemingly holding them to ransom so they can make money.
 
fatso

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IMHO Hamer is here until we find an adequate replacement, then if someone offers reasonable money he will go, unless he decides to run down his contract and leave next year on a free.

Why else would he choose to not sign the contract extension? His agent is keeping his options open knowing he can talk to other clubs in Jan.
 
SkyblueDad

SkyblueDad

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DrPoolittle said:
If the club sell Hamer, it has cock all to do with the club's ambition and everything to do with the player's intent. Hamer can sign for a new club in January and CCFC risk losing a huge transfer fee.
Hamer can earn a significant amount more at Burnley and get a signing-on fee and play in the PL, so it makes perfect sense for him.

As for replacements, Cov have long been linked with Louie Sibley from Derby. He might not be the actual replacement but the club is clearly actively scouting.

A couple of weeks ago, I was more confident that Hamer would stay. Now, I am confident he will leave. No different from when Robbie Keane demanded to leave
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Robbie Keane didn’t demand to leave.
 
Darth Robins

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I'm told that the clock at Ryton was like that because Doug is big into numerology and was trying to subconsciously implant the idea of a 4 year deal into Gus' brain. It doesn't seem to have worked.
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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hamertime said:
If hes not at Forest Green it means hes gone, wont want him getting injured. Its gone too quiet on him so the writing is on the wall. As long as the money goes back in to the squad then its sound.
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Yeah and watch this thread if he's not in the squad tonight.
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Skyblueweeman

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Sick Boy said:
I’m not offended at all.
I just can’t believe that someone would actually think that Hamer is being prevented from a signing a new contract against his wishes because of his agent, or that agents are hired and retained by players despite working to against their wishes and seemingly holding them to ransom so they can make money.
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I mean, to be fair, I've met a few agents and I'm pretty sure some would try and talk their clients out of signing contracts as they can earn better money elsewhere (for both of them).
 
Sick Boy

Sick Boy

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Skyblueweeman said:
I mean, to be fair, I've met a few agents and I'm pretty sure some would try and talk their clients out of signing contracts as they can earn better money elsewhere (for both of them).
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Yeah but they're also hired by the player, it's not like a player is going to be desperate to sign a contract for a certain club but is being prevented from doing so by their agent and effectively have little to no free will. Agents are hired by the players to get the best deal for them and make them more money.
 
junglej13

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The ever reliable Teamtalk saying we have rebuffed Burnley's offer of McNally and Thomas for Hamer...
 
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