Hamer (8 Viewers)

[Matt smith]

Only the football geniuses of SBT could claim the player on the right is a better passer than the one on the left.

Anyway. Back to Hamer.

Please.



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Who’s on the left

 

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[Sky Blue Pete]

Who’s on the left

Lol

 

[PVA]

Who’s on the left

The guy who can't pass the ball apparently

 

[NorthernWisdom]

Saying 'he often plays the ball behind is man' is utterly subjective.

Actual statistics are factual.

Of course this forum would disagree with stone cold facts. Of course.

People disagree when Jamie Allen's stats are brought out, tbf.

 

[PVA]

People disagree when Jamie Allen's stats are brought out, tbf.

Yes I brought some out to say he wasn't contributing enough

But then he added goals, fair fucks to him.

 

[NorthernWisdom]

I’ve not said that at all. I think he’s a decent defender. I just don’t think he’s worth £4m up front.

Maybe not in absolute, but knows the group and is established at this level. If they feel good ceiling is higher, we have the money, and we value some stability from last season, maybe it's worth it to us, if not in objective terms?

 

[Grendel]

Who’s on the left

Certainly not Slippery Starmer

 

[NorthernWisdom]

Yes I brought some out to say he wasn't contributing enough

But then he added goals, fair fucks to him.

His goal conversion and shot accuracy above Hamer's, along with pass completion.

Stats.

 

[Londonccfcfan]

Same old cnut starts a pointless arguement.

 

[Grendel]

Same old cnut starts a pointless arguement.

Who started what argument?

 

[Covcraig@bury]

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Fight fight fight fight

 

[Matt smith]

Controversial but Dominic Hyam is criminally underrated by some fans on this board, he was great for us

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Controversial but Dominic Hyam is criminally underrated by some fans on this board, he was great for us

Good
We didn’t miss him

 

[NorthernWisdom]

Controversial but Dominic Hyam is criminally underrated by some fans on this board, he was great for us

I don't know why I joined in tbh, I'd happily have him back!

 

[NorthernWisdom]

Good
We didn’t miss him

We did until we were allowed to sign McNally

 

[Grendel]

Controversial but Dominic Hyam is criminally underrated by some fans on this board, he was great for us

He wasn’t missed at all

 

[Grendel]

We did until we were allowed to sign McNally

Our only blip really was when Mcfazdean didn’t play

 

[Pete in Portugal]

Neither had mcnally or Doyle until last season

Correct, but the point is they are worth more now than they were before last season.

 

[Martin180]

Same old cnut starts a pointless arguement.

Don't know why I bit yesterday, he's incredibly tedious

 

[Frostie]

Only the football geniuses of SBT could claim the player on the right is a better passer than the one on the left.

Anyway. Back to Hamer.

Please.



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You have to take into account the styles of play etc. of both the individual & the team too.

I think surely everyone would agree that Callum Doyle is one of the best ball playing defenders at this level? However those stats you posted would show him as vastly inferior to Hyam.

 

[Balli001]

You have to take into account the styles of play etc. of both the individual & the team too.

I think surely everyone would agree that Callum Doyle is one of the best ball playing defenders at this level? However those stats you posted would show him as vastly inferior to Hyam.

You can't mention that. His spreadsheets will blow up

 

[Matt smith]

McNally is good I like him but so is Hyam

both fairly similar in ability, genuinely don’t see how McNally is so much better as some argue

Hyam got player of the year first season at Blackburn, captain also

 

[Grendel]

Don't know why I bit yesterday, he's incredibly tedious

It’s a slightly odd take as I didn’t actually cause any argument

You made a silly comment that McNally was worth less than £2 million

The whoscored.com site has McNally with an overall rating of 7.34 as the 4th highest player in the championship last season - what’s your thoughts on that?

 

[Grendel]

You can't mention that. His spreadsheets will blow up

Or the usual suspects will say you are derailing the thread

 

[Balli001]

I’ve not said that at all. I think he’s a decent defender. I just don’t think he’s worth £4m up front.

But you haven't named a single defender who you would spend that amount on. We know mcnally, he knows the club and the league and he has great ability and potential. Not sure what your expecting tbh

 

[Matt smith]

But you haven't named a single defender who you would spend that amount on. We know mcnally, he knows the club and the league and he has great ability and potential. Not sure what your expecting tbh

Dominic Hyam

 

[Balli001]

For 4 million? OK then...

 

[Grendel]

Dominic Hyam

Mcnally is better - the stats prove it - don’t live in 1995

 

[Matt smith]

For 4 million? OK then...

It was a joke

 

[Matt smith]

I’d take Hyam back though

 

[shmmeee]

But you haven't named a single defender who you would spend that amount on. We know mcnally, he knows the club and the league and he has great ability and potential. Not sure what your expecting tbh

Im not a scout. I get you love him, I just don’t think we should have our pants down on the Gus fee because of that.

 

[Balli001]

Im not a scout. I get you love him, I just don’t think we should have our pants down on the Gus fee because of that.

But you are happy to turn down mcnally to spunk millions on an unknown defender
Yet you say you don't want to have out pants down.....

 

[Balli001]

I’d take Hyam back though

So would I but not for anymore than we sold him for. Tho signing him would provide therapy for some database junkies on here

 

[RegTheDonk]

I didn't say he was only worth £5m, I said up until the last 6 months of the season he would have only attracted a fee of ~£5m but his performances in the last few months have elevated his value much higher.

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Sorry I've obviously read that wrong.

 

[PVA]

You have to take into account the styles of play etc. of both the individual & the team too.

I think surely everyone would agree that Callum Doyle is one of the best ball playing defenders at this level? However those stats you posted would show him as vastly inferior to Hyam.

Yes of course, and the stats show that Doyle makes significantly more key passes, passes into final third/the penalty area etc. As you'd expect.