Hamer (10 Viewers)

[SlowerThanPlatt]

I have a ITK at Leicester who told me weeks ago they wanted Hamer, had offered him £45k a week but then got relegated and Hamer wanted to move above the championship

Didn’t you just link a post on Foxes Talk when asked how you knew this “weeks ago”?

 

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

Fine, so we accept £3 million from Luton? Your're then in to the realms of it possibly being more sensible to keep him and having a go. Making the play offs alone is worth not far off that.

Then we have to consider that he might not want to move anyway.

What do you think is the minimum amount of 'something' we should accept?

£5m with a hefty add on.

 

[Dickie]

I’d rather keep him for a year and give the play offs another go and lose him for nothing, than get a paltry fee and lose him with a Hamer sized gap now.

 

[theferret]

I find it hard to buy into a theory he just wants to go back to Holland with no evidence to support

If the club lower their expectations I think we can find a buyer

You might well be right there, but I don't understand why nobody is bidding. Why are they no clubs trying their luck at around £5-£7 million? Surely if he was genuinely open to a move his agent would be touting him round everywhere.

Who knows, the wanting to move home suggestion might well be true, but yes, all speculation.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

I’d rather keep him for a year and give the play offs another go and lose him for nothing, than get a paltry fee and lose him with a Hamer sized gap now.

Who’s to say that mentally he will be invested in a play off push if we stopped him moving

 

[Otis]

Here's where I am on the Hamer situation.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Can anyone seriously begrudge the club for not paying him £40k a week??

 

[SleepyGinger]

Can anyone seriously begrudge the club for not paying him £40k a week??

No, the way doug is spending I imagine we have offered him a very nice contract but you’ve got to draw the line somewhere

 

[archieboy]

If he does want to leave it seems like it's likely for one of two reasons.

1) He wants to play at a higher level and increase his earnings even more

That's fine. Teams at that level can afford the price we'll want for him and his wages.

2) It is domestic and he wants to move to Holland to be with his kids.

This is more problematic as it's unlikely Dutch clubs could afford those kinds of fees. So DK will have to get creative with the deal. Longer repayment terms is likely one. Having a huge sell-on clause (say 50% is another). A buy-back clause if his situation changes. Being given first dibs on some of their better talents and/or loans for any wonderkids etc.

It wouldn't be ideal but it would increase the value of the transfer from our side and allow Gus the move he wants.

I’m not certain but I’ve been told by friends of close friends of his that his lad is staying with him permanently now.

 

[Deity]

Didn’t you just link a post on Foxes Talk when asked how you knew this “weeks ago”?

No

 

[Sick Boy]

If there is no proper resolution to this by the transfer deadline of Sep 1 (i.e. Hamer not signing on for another year or being sold for a reasonable fee), I guess we have no choice but to play him this season and let him run his contract down and leave on a free like BBD. It sucks I know, but what other alternatives are there. Hopefully, he continues to give his all this season and stays committed to our goal of trying to achieve promotion. In the meantime, we’ve got to hope that MR and his team have already started looking for capable replacements as Hamer leaving was always a possibility for the last few transfer windows.

To replace him properly we’d need his transfer fee; in that scenario it wouldn’t happen.

 

[San Francisco]

I’m not certain but I’ve been told by friends of close friends of his that his lad is staying with him permanently now.

Interesting that Gus never tells anyone directly what his plans are but everyone seems to know someone who knows someones who knows what his plans are.

Bizarre.

 

[Sick Boy]

I have a ITK at Leicester who told me weeks ago they wanted Hamer, had offered him £45k a week but then got relegated and Hamer wanted to move above the championship

That’s weird, I posted on here a few weeks ago that there was interest there from someone I know. He still maintains there’s interest from their side.

 

[Otis]

That’s weird, I posted on here a few weeks ago that there was interest there from someone I know.

Can I just put it out there, I know nothing and know no-one.

 

[SleepyGinger]

Could see yesterday we were planning for life without Hamer. Sheaf was playing a lot more advanced and getting into the box with Eccles sitting more.

 

[Colin Steins Smile]

If Gus decides to run his contract down, then he’s risking unemployment if he gets a serious injury.
The club are not in a strong position to force a move within the UK and I very much doubt MR will leave him out the team.

 

[ovduk78]

Can I just put it out there, I know nothing and know no-one.

I was ITK (in the khazi) just after breakfast!

 

[Covcraig@bury]

Can't afford him

They could broker a similar deal we did for Simms from Everton

 

[David O'Day]

They could broker a similar deal we did for Simms from Everton

no, they can't afford what we want

their record fee ever paid is half of what we would ask for

people keep explaining this to you

they only way he signs for Feyenoord is if he runs his contract down and leaves on a free

 

[Ccfcisparks]

no, they can't afford what we want

their record fee ever paid is half of what we would ask for

people keep explaining this to you

they only way he signs for Feyenoord is if he runs his contract down and leaves on a free

I would be amazed if the club asked for £15m

 

[David O'Day]

I would be amazed if the club asked for £15m

good for you

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

Feyenoord sold their best player Kokcu for 25m and he plays in the same role as Gus so it seems like a goer to me

 

[Ccfcisparks]

good for you

Great discussion David

 

[alexccfc99]

If we got offered £15m for a player who doesn’t want to sign and has one year left on his deal then I’d drive him to where he wants to go

If he goes, he goes and I think after the summer we have had King and MR have enough credit in the bank to be trusted to replace Gus

I’ll say this though, I’ll miss Gyökeres way more than I’ll miss Hamer

 

[Ccfcisparks]

If we got offered £15m for a player who doesn’t want to sign and has one year left on his deal then I’d drive him to where he wants to go

If he goes, he goes and I think after the summer we have had King and MR have enough credit in the bank to be trusted to replace Gus

I’ll say this though, I’ll miss Gyökeres way more than I’ll miss Hamer

I’d say it’s extremely unlikely someone would offer us £15m

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

If we got offered £15m for a player who doesn’t want to sign and has one year left on his deal then I’d drive him to where he wants to go

If he goes, he goes and I think after the summer we have had King and MR have enough credit in the bank to be trusted to replace Gus

I’ll say this though, I’ll miss Gyökeres way more than I’ll miss Hamer

Bullshit, Hamer is more integral

 

[Otis]

If we got offered £15m for a player who doesn’t want to sign and has one year left on his deal then I’d drive him to where he wants to go

If he goes, he goes and I think after the summer we have had King and MR have enough credit in the bank to be trusted to replace Gus

I’ll say this though, I’ll miss Gyökeres way more than I’ll miss Hamer

We may do. Let's just see how Simms does for us first I think and if we can adequately replace Hamer.

 

[SleepyGinger]

Han-Noah Messengo is a free agent still, always looked decent for Bristol City.

 

[skyblueelephant76]

Han-Noah Messengo is a free agent still, always looked decent for Bristol City.

We'd still have to agree a fee with Bristol City or go to a tribunal as he's 22. They bought him for £7m so he wouldn't be cheap.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

They could broker a similar deal we did for Simms from Everton

But mot of ours is based on promotion to PL, which comes with a massive windfall. It's also a possibility. What would Feyenoord do? Offer a massive amount for winning the CL?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

But mot of ours is based on promotion to PL, which comes with a massive windfall. It's also a possibility. What would Feyenoord do? Offer a massive amount for winning the CL?

Feyenoord could instead offer a bigger sell on %, it’s how we signed Gyo for relatively little.

 

[alexccfc99]

Bullshit, Hamer is more integral

And Gyökeres constantly scored goals that he mostly created himself for two season straight - Gyökeres left a bad taste in some people’s mouth to the point where people want to slate him - Because of the way his departure panned out and the fact he was open to the press about his ambition to play at a higher level

For me he was and always will be the superior player but that’s just my opinion

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Feyenoord could instead offer a bigger sell on %, it’s how we signed Gyo for relatively little.

Indeed, as I've suggested elsewhere amongst other options.

I guess it depends on just how much a team like Feyenoord could afford. If it's around £8m, then stuff like the sell-on clause and incentives based around CL progression could be acceptable.

If it's more like £5m we're going to need extras in the deal to be worthwhile IMO.

 

[David O'Day]

Feyenoord could instead offer a bigger sell on %, it’s how we signed Gyo for relatively little.

once again the only way he joins them is if he runs down his contract

they have also just spent 8 million euros on someone who plays in his position

 

[Grendel]

Indeed, as I've suggested elsewhere amongst other options.

I guess it depends on just how much a team like Feyenoord could afford. If it's around £8m, then stuff like the sell-on clause and incentives based around CL progression could be acceptable.

If it's more like £5m we're going to need extras in the deal to be worthwhile IMO.

First it depends if they have any interest in signing him