better days
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It's possible there is a small fee up front but then additional payments for when he makes first team, after milestones in number of appearances, Wales senior team and percentage of any sell on fee etc.
Harries not in MR's plans? (2 Viewers)
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It's possible there is a small fee up front but then additional payments for when he makes first team, after milestones in number of appearances, Wales senior team and percentage of any sell on fee etc.
steve82
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I'd speculate at 500k at the lowest surely as a small fee with it stacked with add ons.
Even that's too low, he's contracted till 2020
Adge
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Isn't that Rugby? Now we are really getting confused.
Moff
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Its a shame to get rid of a player that can sign for Liverpool, Villa and Swansea all in one pre season. At least he will have to get rid of the Villa tracksuit that he was alleged to have been wearing at the Petrol Station in Balsall Common when he was definitely signing for Villa.
If he is going to Swansea, I would imagine if the fee isn't large, there will certainly be add on's based on his potential.
Its a sad state of affairs but Premier league Clubs have so much cash they can afford to take a punt on any promising youngster in the lower leagues and can afford to fail many times over before they find a gem that they sell on for millions. Add in agents of such players who want a slice of the wedge and will only get that when the player moves, then its inevitable they will go.
When better but not great Premier League players are being touted this week for 50 million, I realise the game is totally and utterly fucked.
If he is going to Swansea, I would imagine if the fee isn't large, there will certainly be add on's based on his potential.
Its a sad state of affairs but Premier league Clubs have so much cash they can afford to take a punt on any promising youngster in the lower leagues and can afford to fail many times over before they find a gem that they sell on for millions. Add in agents of such players who want a slice of the wedge and will only get that when the player moves, then its inevitable they will go.
When better but not great Premier League players are being touted this week for 50 million, I realise the game is totally and utterly fucked.
steve82
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Transfermkt has 14 starts in all competitions....
In the league was in the squad 14 times, started 6 games came on as a sub 2 times
FA cup started 2 games and on the bench 1 time
EFL cup started 2 games
Checkatrade trophy started 4 games in the squad 8 times
Named in a match day squad 27 times, started 14 games and substituted on 2 times
rupert_bear
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Promising youngsters will continue to fund the sisu business a million here, half a million there until we are rid of the cancer that is sisu any youth player with any potentialwill sold off Being a fourth division outfit it's unstoppable but the annoying thing to me is they are sold off cheaply and very little of any fee is realistically put back towards the team hence now being in the fourth division
ddsdube
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Cian Harries: Swansea City to sign Wales youngster from Coventry City
Why only a 'small fee'? How small!?
He's under contract!
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Why only a 'small fee'? How small!?
He's under contract!
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Otis
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Would guess it will be appearance related. First team games, international appearances etc.
Small initial fee and then add ons as he progresses through the ranks.
the rumpo kid
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shame, good player, but we would never be able to keep him back.
mrtrench
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Probably, but it's not right. It gives Swansea a cheap option. I can only assume that he has an attitude and Robins wants rid.
Esoterica
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Nick
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You mean they will continue to fund CCFC? Lower League club in selling players to survive shocker.
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Don't really know what to make of this one. From his POV, he may as well sit in their reserves as our reserves!
Fergusons_Beard
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But he'll be earning a hell of a lot more money NW. (I agree with you btw but not many players turn down money ahead of a career)
I am presuming his head has been turned a while ago and that's why he's not been included in MR plans.
TBH he's not ready for first team and may well only bloom in 5 years when he fills into his 'man body'....
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Ron Macintosh
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Absolutely fuck all to do with Sisu. We're a league 2 club, Swansea are a premier league side. They want one of our players, they get them. It's that simple.
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It's seems managers have been unwilling to trust him for whatever reason, anyway. When he got games last season it was as much because we never got round to signing anybody.
So regardless of money, not much point from his perspective in staying. Can't even throw the 'season of first team football' at him.
Esoterica
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i think simply he's not ready defensively yet but defenders who can pass are still a rare commodity (see the ridiculous hype and price around John Stones). It's again very indicative of the modern game both financially and from a technical standard. A few hundred thousand on a young player is extremely low risk to see if he fills out and can hone the defensive side of his game to match his ball playing ability over a couple of seasons. If he can sort that out then their low risk gamble has a potentially high reward.
better days
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Let's be honest League 1 and even more so League 2 is mostly about central defenders having to stand up to big bruising forwards who try to physically overpower them
Most of us agree that Cian looks a player and is likely to have a great chance of making it at a decent level
He just isn't the guy for League 2 at this stage of his development
Liquid Gold
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I still feel this "cheap" would be from Swansea's point of view. They're asking £50m for Sigurdson so £250k is absolutely fuck all for them.
Joy Division
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I'd imagine the club will be very happy for him to go to a Premier League team if he's not going to feature regularly for us. Its a great advert for our Academy to show potential new recruits that we can help players move on and fulfil their ambitions.
SkyBlueCRJ
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Harries is a class act, there's no denying that. But has his departure bothered me, well yes and no. At this present time I personally don't see him being an effective CB this season. The technical side of his game is leaps and bounds above the majority of his fellow defenders, however as we all know his physical side is lacking to say the least. This is clearly an issue at League 2 level as footballers predominantly rely on physical attributes over technical skill. This is a commonality as you go down the leagues. Therefore, it makes me think are we the best club for Harries's development - in my opinion, no.
I think he could seriously progress at a club like Swansea, they have the means to continue his progress far more than we are IMO. In previous threads it's been noted that Premier League teams are reluctant to send their youth players on loan to League Two teams. Why is this? Simply because the majority cannot cope with the physical demands of the league. Therefore, what makes keeping Harries here any different? If Harries' physical disadvantage was exposed last season in League 1, logic suggests it won't improve this season.
Understandably, fans are frustrated because we're physically incapable of hanging onto our prized assets. However, we're in League Two now, we need to realise that our youth are now even more ripe for the picking. We've been a player selling club for a number of years now, and we'll continue to be as such as long as SISU are at the helm. So whilst it frustrates me that we cannot see our youth players fully develop, I know it's necessary for the clubs survival. Plus, at this point in Harries' career, I don't think League Two would be beneficial for his development.
I think he could seriously progress at a club like Swansea, they have the means to continue his progress far more than we are IMO. In previous threads it's been noted that Premier League teams are reluctant to send their youth players on loan to League Two teams. Why is this? Simply because the majority cannot cope with the physical demands of the league. Therefore, what makes keeping Harries here any different? If Harries' physical disadvantage was exposed last season in League 1, logic suggests it won't improve this season.
Understandably, fans are frustrated because we're physically incapable of hanging onto our prized assets. However, we're in League Two now, we need to realise that our youth are now even more ripe for the picking. We've been a player selling club for a number of years now, and we'll continue to be as such as long as SISU are at the helm. So whilst it frustrates me that we cannot see our youth players fully develop, I know it's necessary for the clubs survival. Plus, at this point in Harries' career, I don't think League Two would be beneficial for his development.
You have you view. But he will get kicked to fuck by cloggers in L2
Pleased for him he is joining a footballing team at better level. Remind me of Alan Hanson. Far too good for City now we r shit bottom league. Good luck kid.
absolutely correct. Sisu owned feeder club
ajsccfc
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The lower leagues really aren't these land of bruising giants that people seem to make out. The technique is worse and the facilities are smaller, and that's about it. Harries isn't some lightweight midget. If he's good enough for Swansea to take an interest, he's good enough to do alright away at Forest Green Rovers.
I'm not disagreeing with you, just that he is a wasted talent in a shit league.
rupert_bear
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Lower league clubs always sell players and once higher league clubs such as Swansea, Bournemouth or Burton Albion for that matter it's almost impossible to prevent them from leaving, I stand by the fact very little of the millions brought in from player sales recently has been spent on the team hence division 4. As for funding the running CCFC player sales has always done that going back years, but now we are "cash flow positive" according to our chairman I hope perhaps even expect once the sales of Harries, Ben Stevenson, George Thomas and Jordan Willis are completed a decent chunk of the received fees are spent on the team.
Nick
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I would say a player sale or two will always be needed to get anywhere near decent accounts. Just a guess though so could be wrong.
very unlikely. You are expecting Sisu to change their spending plans. Imo, they are content to run the club as a feeder club and not bothered if we hover at this level. It allows the club to be run on the cheap.