WillieStanley
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Agreed. My post wasn't intended to condone those actions, just oppose the classist naive opinion it it was in reply to.
Well they could not have left and negotiated a price for a stake in it, but that would've made too much sense.
Agreed. My post wasn't intended to condone those actions, just oppose the classist naive opinion it it was in reply to.
Nick Eastwood: Derek Richardson owns Wasps not a Hedgefund. Wasps own 100% of ACL. No other parties involved.
so whats with all the mgi, maltese hedge fund stuff we've been hearing for weeks? more spin and lies?
Said they weren't changing them because to them it doesnt matter what colour they are could be telling porkies mind
"the club would only return to the Ricoh if negotiations over arena ownership were re-opened by the council" looks like an invitation to me, as well...
Somebody is clearly lying. Which proves the point that every party is pretty much full of shit in all this mess
"the club would only return to the Ricoh if negotiations over arena ownership were re-opened by the council" looks like an invitation to me, as well...
Agreed on that, although it was an odd tangent.
Richardson's company is called Moonshine. Moonshine are part of MGI Fiduciary Services (Malta). Wasps owners are, ultimately, MGI. Being based in Malta is presumably beneficial to them.
So there wasn't any hostility towards Fisher? Wasps are getting an easy ride off the SBT and it can't be denied. It makes us look apathetic and a mickey mouse club.
Somebody is clearly lying. Which proves the point that every party is pretty much full of shit in all this mess
Nick didn't specify what he meant by "looking at the Ricoh". Could've been to an event or two and stayed in the hotel just for a nose round and not done any more until July. Tbf maybe we should've asked a further question to his answer. He may have just said about commercial confidentiality which would be understandable though.
Stop spinning. Did Lucas say wasps approached in July 2014 yes or no?
Like the rest of the board and the membership for that matter I'm not stopping anyone coming to these meetings or sending in questions before hand. As this is the case what questions for Nick Eastwood/Wasps/ACL did you send in or ask in person at tonight's meeting? If you couldn't be arsed to send an email (not aware of your work schedule, home address and other commitments so it'd be unfair to slate you for not being there in person) your point is invalid.
Beat me to it. Just waiting for people to keep repeating it now.
I'd say it's just a happy side effect that we get a better pitch. Speaking of which someone told me rugby pitches have longer grass than football pitches, how is that going to work? Wouldn't want it to stop us playing the Coventry way!
No, it all started this summer, Ann said.
Keep thinking up random situations to blame SISU
Sisu are only partly to blame for this mess, the council have to take their fare share for it. They bent over backwards it seems to make changes to the ACL lease to make it more worthwhile to Wasps. They also made an about face on their stance on moving sports teams around. They should have been offering the same terms to us and a deadline should have been put in place for us to make an offer - however they can just hide behind the NDA as to why they couldn't do that. Of course we were saying we were happy at Sixfields and would be building our own stadium shortly which can't have helped our case. The whole thing is a giant clusterfeck.
SISU are fully to blame for using litigation instead of negotiating and also for continually saying that they will build a stadium for our club and will never return to the Ricoh.
CCC are fully to blame for letting Wasps have the arena instead of keeping it for if our club ever has a decent owner again.
I think there is the problem, how long could ccc wait? it seems they waited around long enough and wanted out much before end of 2014. Also it seems sisu are going no where soon and who is to say the new owners will be better?
For what its worth I am certain wasps want ccfc here and want them to succeed despite what people say on here. Why wouldn't they want ccfc to succeed? I think there must be a plan for ccfc in place.
One thing I like Nick Eastwood said. " We have 32,609 seats so why not fill them?" I wish our club would have this attitude and create atmospheres at games and increase footfall. Can only be a good thing, increased revenues in other areas and get people back into the habit.
Stop spinning. Did Lucas say wasps approached in July 2014 yes or no?
During the interview I saw on BBC with Lucas she said she met with Wasps in July for the first time, she also said this was after Council officers had decided it was a serious offer, the implication being that the approach was earlier and they had spent time reviewing the offer.
I can't see that this deal could be done in 3 months, whereas 9 months from the end of 2013 sounds realistic.
Which is what I have been saying. The added problem was the consistant litigation that was taking up time and money that CCC doesn't have. But it still don't make them innocent in all of this shit.
Wasps have some good ideas. Like the water taxi from the city centre to the ground. Just shows how much thought they have put in. They have put more thought in to making the experience better and to raise more income than all of our owners put together for many years and they are yet to move in properly. Just shows how much of a joke our club has become.
I think its hard to construct a constructive argument against CCC/Higgs and ACL for selling at that time. Plenty of notice, warnings and discussions (on this forum as a point of record) show that the intent was there and an open invitation was made to the market for offers.
Playing with words - SHE may have only met WASPS in July for the first time but it is a well known fact WASPS were talking to ACL ( therefore CCC & Higgs ) in 2011
It was built for our football club using Coventry tax payers money. It shouldn't have been for the benefit of a rugger club that has no ties at all with Coventry.
I understand why it has happened. It still doesn't make it right though.
The point I was making is that it is a matter of record that the RICOH would be disposed of by CCC. The world was informed that CCC would not be held hostage to the up keep and running of the stadium with the responsibility of running the city with taxpayers money.
The point I was making is that it is a matter of record that the RICOH would be disposed of by CCC. The world was informed that CCC would not be held hostage to the up keep and running of the stadium with the responsibility of running the city with taxpayers money.
What the hell kind of shitty comment is that? Jealousy of landlords? What planet are you on? A planet where all people with property are fine upstanding citizens who are simp winning at capitalism while providing an excellent service for the poor ungrateful underclass who should be happy with the overpricing because, well that's just the market. And if your sick, disabled, work three jobs or lack the life skills in order to maintain a home, well that just makes you jealous of the hand that feeds you (at market value).
The feeling I get when I go to the Ricoh is that, in its emptiness for the last year, ACL have let it go. CCFC have been powerless to do anything about that and from the sounds of things, that is only set to continue.
The point I was making is that it is a matter of record that the RICOH would be disposed of by CCC. The world was informed that CCC would not be held hostage to the up keep and running of the stadium with the responsibility of running the city with taxpayers money.
"...it is a well known fact WASPS were talking to ACL ( therefore CCC & Higgs ) in 2011"
Oh, really? In 2011, Wasps were fully committed to the Booker Sports Village project. They'd spent a lot of money on it, and had received the backing of Wycombe District Council.
The council then had a change of leadership, and did a U-turn, late in 2011. The next plan involved the club being bought by the owner of Barnet FC. That deal fell through at the 11th hour, in April 2012.
In view of those established facts, suggestions that 'it's a well-known fact' that talks about the Ricoh were being held in 2011 are complete and utter nonsense.
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