ccfcway
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have you thought about taking 3 senior judges, they should qualify
I wouldn't blame them on the latter as I'm 43. But I might play the victim anyway.
I would have gone, and just said nothing gets talked about until it is in writing or a copy is handed over to take away with me.
That way nothing gets spun or twisted.
You honestly think that would be a reasonable approach for something you're desperate to save?
Going to an initial meeting and throwing out specific demands as your opening gambit.
Great way to build bridges that.
However, at least you'd have got though the door - something Anderson couldn't be arsed to do.
Maybe I am just a bit cynical of having a PR / Media job done on me, I'd be wondering why they were so against putting something so simple down in an email while they keep reeling off the PR statements about the door being open every so often to keep the rage against me up. I'd probably know that whatever was said there would be twisted somehow, have a look at how far off the mark CJ seemed to be about what happened. The stories went from the academy can be saved and WILL work at Higgs to, the FA Would use discretion but no guarantees.
I'd find it really strange that the other side were so against just writing down what they are physically able to do when the agreement expires to get talks going. Especially after they came out in the media and said that it probably wouldn't be possible when it first came out about Wasps.
Surely, if the door was so open as they keep telling the newspapers then they would have replied to me writing to them and requesting bits of info.
Maybe I am just a bit cynical of having a PR / Media job done on me, I'd be wondering why they were so against putting something so simple down in an email while they keep reeling off the PR statements about the door being open every so often to keep the rage against me up. I'd probably know that whatever was said there would be twisted somehow, have a look at how far off the mark CJ seemed to be about what happened. The stories went from the academy can be saved and WILL work at Higgs to, the FA Would use discretion but no guarantees.
I'd find it really strange that the other side were so against just writing down what they are physically able to do when the agreement expires to get talks going. Especially after they came out in the media and said that it probably wouldn't be possible when it first came out about Wasps.
Surely, if the door was so open as they keep telling the newspapers then they would have replied to me writing to them and requesting bits of info.
It isn't a bizarre conspiracy theory is it?
Yes it is.
The strangest thing of all of this is Anderson refusing to engage.
You've said repeatedly that you don't get why the other side don't put it down in writing and have somehow spun this into some bizarre conspiracy theory.
If I'd agreed to attend a meeting and one of the parties didn't show I wouldn't be rushing to meet their demands.
Anderson refused to go to the meeting - that is the main issue as it's only CCFC who stand to lose here.
It's was initial meeting - if he'd got there and they're dicks then you don't proceed.
I'm sure you'll be of the opinion that 'the other side would just spin in'.
Anderson has scored a massive own goal - there's no need to spin that.
You seem to have this rigid perception of the situation - he said, they said, we said - if people aren't willing to be fluid or believe other can then you'll never get anything sorted.
The vast majority of replies to this thread believe Anderson should have gone to the meeting with an open mind - he didn't and the Academy situation remains going no where.
Must be the same as when I said I could tell something bad was going to come out because of the way posters were posting and the way things were swaying on here and in the media. Then from nowhere the academy stuff came out originally...
It is obvious there is more to it. There is a reason why CA wants everything written down, and there is a reason why Wasps / CSF won't write it down.
Put your crystal ball down and have a word with yourself.
It's not obvious - it's just something you've progressively conceived yourself of as this thread as developed which absolutely nothing at all to back up or support your opinion.
It is obvious there is more to it.
Do you think he just thought "ah I cant be bothered to go today" and won't meet them without it being in writing? If he is just using that as an excuse to not progress, don't you think that CSF and Wasps would have gone to town on it and written down what they can offer? They then have a perfectly good offer there written down that would be left with no action. What is stopping them from doing things in writing?
They probably don't need to the way people treat their PR like they are at a Bukkakke party anyway.[/
,They can't offer what was there before, there needs to be compromise on all sides, if
they put available times etc in writing send it to CA, he just says it isn't possible to run
the academy on what's being offered.
And then it's look everyone we tried, but their all against us, we are left with no choice
but to start making plans to close the academy
It is obvious there is more to it.
Seemingly only to you.
"I see PR people..."
It is obvious there is more to it.
Do you think he just thought "ah I cant be bothered to go today" and won't meet them without it being in writing? If he is just using that as an excuse to not progress, don't you think that CSF and Wasps would have gone to town on it and written down what they can offer? They then have a perfectly good offer there written down that would be left with no action. What is stopping them from doing things in writing?
They probably don't need to the way people treat their PR like they are at a Bukkakke party anyway.
Ha, yes I must be imagining it all!
Nick as you can see I've posted a couple of replies and they've disappeared?Ha, yes I must be imagining it all!
I am not presenting it as fact, I made it clear it is my opinion.You're making a link that has absolutely no basis.
You're presenting your opinion as fact.
As I said - you're the only one stating this, if it had substance why hasn't Anderson used it to support his decision in the statement?
I am not presenting it as fact, I made it clear it is my opinion.
"It is obvious there is more to it. There is a reason why CA wants everything written down, and there is a reason why Wasps / CSF won't write it down."
This is your opinion - you're presenting it as fact.
Just because you believe something doesn't make it fact.
Correct who is the customer?Who is the customer in this proposed relationship?
Correct who is the customer?
Does the customer not find out what his needs are and then go out and get them?
TBF the customer usually knows what he requires and not leave it to others to get him this information.
But seriously all this bullshit about emails and letters is a joke, and for people to buy and even defend this is just farcical.
They need to Fucking grow up go get what they need, or do they just let it die and blame everyone else for your incompetence.
These are supposed to be educated people in any other walk of life you would get sacked for such gross incompetence.
Sorry I let it all go pear-shaped because they wouldn't email me......
Because they've got very little cash and what they have got they're spending on some twat that's written a book that agrees to go to a meeting then changes his mind or has it changed. That's me done be back after the season startsDid you ask Wasps / CSF why they are so adamant on not putting anything in writing? (by you I mean Trust / people who met with them?)
What do you think is going on? Do you think CCFC want to just get rid of the academy? IF so, why?
IF he has sent over schedules of what is used and when, isn't that sending over the requirements to ask if they can meet them?
It is like another Haskell situation all over again isn't it?
Because they've got very little cash and what they have got they're spending on some twat that's written a book that agrees to go to a meeting then changes his mind or has it changed. That's me done be back after the season starts
I don't think they are scaling back, just cuttingSo they want to get rid of the Academy to cut cash? Is that what CA has said?
What would they do? Take it back down to Cat3?
In your opinion, of course.
So no academy at all, no players at all under 16? Do any other clubs do this?I don't think they are scaling back, just cutting
Nick did you ask CA and co if they had written an email to say this is what we require if that is not available then we have nothing to talk about.Did you ask Wasps / CSF why they are so adamant on not putting anything in writing? (by you I mean Trust / people who met with them?)
What do you think is going on? Do you think CCFC want to just get rid of the academy? IF so, why?
IF he has sent over schedules of what is used and when, isn't that sending over the requirements to ask if they can meet them?
It is like another Haskell situation all over again isn't it?
Who knows but we do like to be the first at everythingSo no academy at all, no players at all under 16? Do any other clubs do this?
It is a fact there is a reason why he wont meet them without it being in writing, and why they wont write it down. I am not claiming to know the reason, but it is fact.
I think you might be being a bit naive if you don't think there is more to the whole "wont meet" and "wont write things down". Whether it is Joy telling him not to do stuff or whatever, I very much doubt he just thinks he cant be arsed that day so isnt going to meet them.
Probably why you think people are paranoid for putting things down to PR, and probably wouldn't believe that people have signed up on here to try and use it to influence people / start rumours. When to others it is blatant.
And you made me get one you wanker....Don't know and quite frankly don't care wish I hadn't paid for a season ticket fucking waste of money
Don't know and quite frankly don't care wish I hadn't paid for a season ticket fucking waste of money
And you made me get one you wanker....
Sorry to you and MaAnd you made me get one you wanker....
And there lies the problem.........You both love it really.
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