Grendel
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Maximum of £7m I’d have thought and even then players would have to agree relegation clauses in their contracts
What do you think ours could stretch to in the Championship if our situation remains the same?
Fed up with this subject. Every club, even Liverpool sells. The big Italian clubs sell all the time. We are in Tier 3 - by definition we are a selling club.
The only question is not whether you are or not a selling club, but whether you are any good at it. The better we become as a selling club the more likely we are to generate the cash to improve the team. The whole point about the Bayliss and McCallum sales was that the purchaser was paying for potential, NOT what they can contribute from day 1. Both Preston and Norwich have an eye on the sell on as they are selling clubs too.
Six of Saturday's team were out of contract - Mariosi, Rose, Allen, McF, Dabo and Kelly. This was the thing we got most wrong last year - Ogogo and Brown, and is the key measure of just how good our management team are, or are not. Not whether we are selling or not. McCallum is just one player who has just contributed to the wages of the other six.
That is my point.....We are selling not to improve the team but just to fund a basic squad
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We are and always have been part of the football 'food chain'. Some just think we're higher than we really are.
When Man Utd sell ronaldo, Liverpool sell coutinho and spurs sell bale you can see that its not just us.
We "lost" those players yet we're higher up the league and going well, our model is working.That is my point.....
The cash from a good sale funds the wages for x players acquired for no fee, who add a lot more cumulatively than the departing single star player. Only Godden (and Baka?) cost something. The job of the management is to be smart with the out of contract players - as there are loads of them - by persuading them that City have future, and funding it in part with periodic good sales. Then coaching them and organizing them to maximize on their abilities. Big transfers are a small part of the job.
Thus far under Robins Willis is the only player we have "lost" because they were out of contract and whom we might have preferred to stay. That is much more important in the global scheme of things than McCallum or Bayliss or McNulty or Chaplin. Despite the "loss" of three of those, we sit 5th. Mind you McNulty might have been handy.
Whoops! Great minds EhI think you've just plagiarised post #6 mate ;-)
Wakefield and Walters are both likely to be releasedOn a positive note we seem to have a good scouting system of our summer signings only Kasteneer has so far failed to deliver, all the players brought in have good technical ability, will be lnteresting what this summers batch will be like. We have players like Wakefield and Walters yet to feature and I know left back Joe Newton is well rated.
Trouble with football is it’s difficult to take out the emotion and make a strictly business decision.
The best model is to buy players with obvious talent (or future ability) and buy them for a lot less than market value.
Then find a club willing to buy the same player for a lot more than they are worth (or potentially worth).
That way the club makes a load of money confident that they have systems in place to recruit replacements that are the same or better.
Trouble happens when your replacements are not very good and you sell players leaving your team a lot weaker.
I have no problem selling McCallum as we already have a like for like replacement in Mason. We bought him for peanuts and sold him for Millions. We have things in place that guarantee further money should the player be sold etc.
All the noises suggest that our recruitment will happen during the summer-if the McCallum money means we can get a more high calibre replacement then the transfer is a good one.
Chris Badlam and co have been much better one good argue than Widdrington and I have every faith that our analysis and scouting have already unearthed more gems to add to our already talented team.
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I blame Rebekah Vardy for that.McCallum was scouted through the V9 academy event rather than actually being scouted through his club
It’s not running this year as there’s lack of funding for it apparently
Only Godden (and Baka?) cost something.
McCallum was scouted through the V9 academy event rather than actually being scouted through his club
It’s not running this year as there’s lack of funding for it apparently
The selling of Sam McCallum has once again raised the question of Sisu selling our best assets and hence hampering the clubs ambition. In these troubled times it is perhaps understandable why Sisu agreed to Sams departure. There will be some of you that will say they have brought this on by moving us from the Ricoh, others will say they had no choice but to move us away from the Ricoh.
As a consequence of the move, revenue is undoubtedly down and monies have to be found from somewhere and the easiest way is to sell your assets. CCFC have no assets they can sell other than Ryton or players. I am not sure how far the Ryton proposed development has got . So in my mind this just leaves player sales to supplement the income. But is this new to CCFC, I think not. For as long as I can remember CCFC have always sold their best players and in reality they are no different to most of the clubs in the EFL or the make weight teams in the Premier League. There are very few clubs who can turn down offers from the top clubs.
The key to it is selling a player and having a replacement ready to step in. Unfortunately this is not always possible or the replacement does not come off.
I am just too young to actually remember George Hudson being sold to Northampton but I know it caused a lot of controversy. Below is a number of players names who I think were sold against the fans wishes( not all the fans will have felt like I did when these were sold). No doubt there will be others I have not recalled :
George Hudson, Bobby Gould, John Tudor, Ronnie Rees, George Curtis, Willie Carr, Dennis Mortimer, Gary Gillespie, Gary Thompson, Stuart Pearce, Danny Thomas, Ian Wallace, Mick Ferguson, Robbie Keane, Callum Wilson, Keiran Westward, Scott Dan, Danny Fox, James Maddison, Marc McNulty, Tom Baylis and Sam McCallum.
The above list is nowhere near complete, please feel free to add/delete/agree/disagree
I remember the day we sold Dennis Mortimer to Aston Villa - it was my first season following the Sky Blues 74/75 and I cried my eyes out! Couldnt understand why we just sold our best player - only thing that has changed now is I dont cry anymore!Just read that Mortimer's gone to Villa - I really hate Sepalla! (just glanced back through the thread - sorry Ring of Steel!)
I remember the day we sold Dennis Mortimer to Aston Villa - it was my first season following the Sky Blues 74/75 and I cried my eyes out! Couldnt understand why we just sold our best player - only thing that has changed now is I dont cry anymore!
Hutch to Man City. Cried, couldn't understand.I remember the day we sold Dennis Mortimer to Aston Villa - it was my first season following the Sky Blues 74/75 and I cried my eyes out! Couldnt understand why we just sold our best player - only thing that has changed now is I dont cry anymore!
I can't say anyone leaving really 'upset' me, but I was sad when Bennett, Houchen, Sedgeley & Phillips all left in within a few months of each other in 1989, as I thought it had that "end of an era" feel about it. Similarly when Butcher started trying to bomb out Peake, Kilcline & Regis, it just felt all wrong. I guess Hartson was the worst I felt about someone leaving, as we'd just gone down and he was going to be our figurehead in The Championship or whatever it was called in 2001, he made those statements about not leaving even if Man Utd came in... then he was gone soon after.Hutch to Man City. Cried, couldn't understand.
He'd been an ever-present in my City "career". Had no idea at the time that he was 34 and supposed to be winding down (although he was still playing for Swansea 10 years later).
Preston have a budget that’s about 6 times ours. Even Millwall have about £14m[/
Where does that money for Preston and Millwall come from ?
McCallum was scouted through the V9 academy event rather than actually being scouted through his club
It’s not running this year as there’s lack of funding for it apparently
you should be in "the office" hahahaNot at all.
To some extent.
Very much so.
Don't know.
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