I meant in terms of the "situation" rather than in general. I don't doubt that they do good things in other areas.
I meant in terms of the "situation" rather than in general. I don't doubt that they do good things in other areas.
It depends on the argument I guess, maybe the "I am proud of the Council / ACL" posts will stop though
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Due to relegation (caused by owners) rent is way too high.
I don't get why some of you people are jumping up and down about. This is one side of the argument. Let's face it sisu have never told the truth before so what's going to make them change?
And if you are stupid enough to believe they are actually interested in the football club then well that says it all.
Sisu are a business that takes people and company's to court to distress them into selling them something or making them go bust. Come on now people stop being so silly.
And on another note even if sisu win the jr they will sue the council and guess who'll be paying the bill.........hmmmmm look at the big picture people.
I don't get why some of you people are jumping up and down about. This is one side of the argument. Let's face it sisu have never told the truth before so what's going to make them change?
And if you are stupid enough to believe they are actually interested in the football club then well that says it all.
Sisu are a business that takes people and company's to court to distress them into selling them something or making them go bust. Come on now people stop being so silly.
And on another note even if sisu win the jr they will sue the council and guess who'll be paying the bill.........hmmmmm look at the big picture people.
Can't be arsed to comment on every point, but the rent was too high regardless of getting relegated.
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By no means am I saying ccc are squeaky clean far from it but, these people who seem to want the jr to go in sisu's way are missing the big picture as it will be the hard working people of coventry who pay... Year again.looks like you are focused on the other side of the argument?
By no means am I saying ccc are squeaky clean far from it but, these people who seem to want the jr to go in sisu's way are missing the big picture as it will be the hard working people of coventry who pay... Year again.
Yet again may I ask why people think ccfc is different compared to how sisu normally run business? And let's face it I read that document and I'm sure ccc lawyers have a similar document that would make sisu look stupid.
My problem is that people are expecting sisu to do what's best for our football club. Which they are clearly not interested in. But people actually believe they are going to build a new stadium, why will they do that when that is not how they have ever done business.I can't help think - but I may be wrong and will of course apologize if necessary - that your problem with sisu is from a political stand point? That you despise the capitalistic hedge fund?
It goes with the suggestions within the higgs vs sisu case documents where it is suggested CCC ran away from the deal because Labour had trouble with doing a deal with sisu.
Will it? A new t-shirt and a whistle. Can't wait.*
*this is a joke (admittedly a shit one)
Who is everybody being threatened with court?My problem is that people are expecting sisu to do what's best for our football club. Which they are clearly not interested in. But people actually believe they are going to build a new stadium, why will they do that when that is not how they have ever done business.
They have ran ccfc in the way they have always done, we have next to no assets (not that we had many to start with) everyone's being threatened with court and they are using bullying tactics. Can someone explain to me why ccfc is so different? All I care about is my football club and let's face it are sisu going to improve our current situation?
Who is everybody being threatened with court?
The sky blue trust.
The football league.
Joy directly to Acl council
The guardian.
Just to name a few.....
You forgot the football club and also Northampton Town.
And someone on gmk I believe was threatened by the other side.
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Well incase you may not know people who may not agree with what the clubs owners. Is that not the case or do you know more than me? Along with jr and the trust (which got thrown out of court straight away)Who is everybody being threatened with court?
Well incase you may not know people who may not agree with what the clubs owners. Is that not the case or do you know more than me? Along with jr and the trust (which got thrown out of court straight away)
So come on answer the question why is ccfc so different to there normal business tactics?
All the evidence is suggesting ccfc is no different.
Btw on the court front do you not believe all this with the case this week and the jr is to distress the business? Let's face it there not doing it out of the goodness of there hearts are they.
I remember Northampton Town being threatened with court. Was that sisu or someone else? How did it go?
It could end up where the majority of us fans have been right all along. But there is a chance of the majority of us being wrong.
I now look forward to the JR so all this crap can be sorted out.
A reasonable post but no I don't think there will ever be a point where people on either 'side' are proved wrong or change their minds en masse, perhaps because the truth is somewhere in the middle and can be (and will always be) twisted either way. The anti-council mob have never shown any inclination whatsoever to admit that the council (and arguably the interests of CCFC in remaining in coventry) have been immorally cheated out of current and future revenue by the way SISU fixed the administration process (it's all normal practice in the world of business so they say). So if I put an anti-SISU hat on, why should I be upset if it turns out that likewise the council have tried to screw SISU over? After all in my world it was probably self-defence (and defence of the future interests of the club in not having a hostile party controlling the stadium). Not saying this is the case, but I do think some posters have become so whipped into a frenzy that seeing the council appear to lose is now more important to them than what's good for the club.
A reasonable post but no I don't think there will ever be a point where people on either 'side' are proved wrong or change their minds en masse, perhaps because the truth is somewhere in the middle and can be (and will always be) twisted either way. The anti-council mob have never shown any inclination whatsoever to admit that the council (and arguably the interests of CCFC in remaining in coventry) have been immorally cheated out of current and future revenue by the way SISU fixed the administration process (it's all normal practice in the world of business so they say). So if I put an anti-SISU hat on, why should I be upset if it turns out that likewise the council have tried to screw SISU over? After all in my world it was probably self-defence (and defence of the future interests of the club in not having a hostile party controlling the stadium). Not saying this is the case, but I do think some posters have become so whipped into a frenzy that seeing the council appear to lose is now more important to them than what's good for the club.
Well incase you may not know people who may not agree with what the clubs owners. Is that not the case or do you know more than me? Along with jr and the trust (which got thrown out of court straight away)
So come on answer the question why is ccfc so different to there normal business tactics?
All the evidence is suggesting ccfc is no different.
Btw on the court front do you not believe all this with the case this week and the jr is to distress the business? Let's face it there not doing it out of the goodness of there hearts are they.
In the real world I only want what is best for the club. I've no allegiance to either 'side'. But I do enjoy it when people are proved to be wrong. So I am enjoying this small shift towards evidence showing the council may have also been in the wrong.
It's purely a forum thing. The baying masses on here have had to readjust and it's funny as fuck.
And to repeat, in real life I only want what is best for the club.
A reasonable post but no I don't think there will ever be a point where people on either 'side' are proved wrong or change their minds en masse, perhaps because the truth is somewhere in the middle and can be (and will always be) twisted either way.
In the real world I only want what is best for the club. I've no allegiance to either 'side'. But I do enjoy it when people are proved to be wrong. So I am enjoying this small shift towards evidence showing the council may have also been in the wrong.
It's purely a forum thing. The baying masses on here have had to readjust and it's funny as fuck.
And to repeat, in real life I only want what is best for the club.
What I found pthetic about the document was the shambles of a club since they took over was everybody else's fault, not their own incompetence
Ineffective due dilligence / negotiation on the rent when acquiring the club
Ray Ransom - being allowed to withdraw his stake in the initial investment
debt free quote
coleman appointment
Igwe & Ken Diddlydoo
David bell contract extension
not signing MK
Andy Thorne
It seems that Sisu getting into the PR side a bit late.
ACL/CCC/AEHC have had a concerted PR push to make Sisu look bad and themselves look good for some time from the looks of it.
I like the idea that wheeling out Mr Labovitch is considered good PR for Sisu, though I wish he wouldn't comment on our club.
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