ccfctommy
Well-Known Member
The ground will not be called Highfield Road 2.
What pisses me off so much is that they have the cheek to use Highfield Road's name in their dirty little plan to try and get us on their side. Ent gonna happen SHITSU. Just get the f*ck out of OUR club
If the £400K deal was so much better then what they were paying, why wasn't it signed off and why aren't we paying that agreement? Because it may have agreed by tongue, but it wasn't signed off. I am not saying they're better building a new stadium outside of the City and moving to Walsall at all or condoning it, what I am saying though is if I was in Tim Fisher's shoe's I would be comparing everything to what the current and existing agreement is, because yes £400K rent agreement was agreed at the time, but SISU have since decided that agreement was not good enough for their own reasons and it's not the existing agreement between the two parties. The £400K means shit it was just speculation, the agreement and rent in place was £1.2m-a-year.
Show me if you have seen SISU sign a contract that says we agreed to pay a £400K rent a year??
It won't be that ansty area, thats a buisness technology and innovation area, it's for companies to set up research and development centres etc, there is nothing in safe walking distance of that area, the walsgrave triangle area with cinema, nandos, franky and bennys, pizza hut, bowling alley etc is close in distance but it's not safely walkable. Nore do I see it being possible to make it safely walkable without some massive costs.
How do you mean by them not being safely walkable? (I've never walked up so no idea)
They had the opportunity to buy half the Ricoh three of four years ago but turned it down. They can't have it both ways.They have paid £6 million in rent over 5 years and have zero ownership of the Arena from that £6 million!
They probably see £20 million in building a stadium better suited to our needs, as smarter use of the money going on the rent.
imp:
This conversation is getting really annoying, if they had tried to accept that deal and failed you would have a point, but they didn't so you don't.
It wasn't signed off because SISU said it wasn't good enough and instead brought up this new stadium idea even those its much much much worse than the deal he could have signed.
You do compare your options to what you are currently paying (well not paying in their case) but the option that comes out best is negotiating with acl, which they were doing and had come up with a much better deal, but instead of going forward with that they threatened a new stadium which we all knew to be a stupid idea.
The reason they didn't sign though wasn't because it wasn't a great deal but because sisu were trying to distress acl.
How do you mean by them not being safely walkable? (I've never walked up so no idea)
I'm wrong I've just looked on google maps you can walk it safely. it's too far to walk to come out of though and into nandos after the game like you can do with pizza hut,
The ground will not be called Highfield Road 2.
fuck sake i live right next to ricoh
THINK OF COVCITY4LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The reason SISU didn't sign was because they didn't think they were entitled to enough of the revenue streams, distressing ACL was just a way of trying to get the Ricoh on the cheap.
Okay agreed it probably is better agreeing a new deal with ACL, although Tim Fisher has said that we won't play there again, we don't live in La La Land so if you can think of some mythical reason as to why all of sudden Tim Fisher would say, "Hell with my idea I was only joking I will sit down with ACL" then I will be happy to hear it.
If SISU didn't sign the damn agreement then they have every right to look at alternative options based on what they're currently (or not in their case) paying/agreed. Just because they spoke about a different offer doesn't mean the one they had till that point was just a whisper in the wind.
I don't think Fisher will suddenly change his mind no, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't criticise him for it, he's chosen and been completely unable to back up a terrible idea and appears to be pushing ahead with it whatever the consequences while saying he has no choice. He certainly did and probably still does have a choice.
This plan is much much worse even after taking food and beverage etc into account so while yes that was his excuse it does not hold up, especially as acls deal did the best they could at giving the revenue for ffp.
They could say to acl now, sorry for our behaviour, if holdings hold the golden share after this administration busneis is done we would like to take the deal you offered before, while we arn't legally liable for the debt ran up by limited we will pay it to you as a signing bonus and we will fill up the escrow account. ACL would bit their hands off and this is a much more sensible idea from sisu than their current plan.
You don't press ahead with a plan to build a new stadium based on what you are contractually obligated to pay, you press ahead with a new stadium if its a better option than anything else, it isn't so you don't do it.
You realise of course holdings aren't contractually obligated to pay the 1.2mill rent and even if they were they would have to pay it even if they built a new stadium, they can't just break the contract.
as the financial plan is to "maximise" all income sources for the club and TF has repeatedly gone on about the naming rights ................ it isnt going to be called Highfield Rd 2 is it ............. more PR spin at a sensitive time
every trick in the book it would seem
Thw project is. they no right using that name for their dirty little project
Surely if this ludicrous/ridiculous/unwanted proposal requires a new ground name a more apt title could be:
"The Highfield Arena"
or
"The Highfield Stadium"
How about - 'the stadium of scabs' .....
Tell me why again they dropped that name for Leciester's shit hole of a ground?
How? HR wasn't a L1 stadium.
Might as well go and support Leicester if the club moves to ansty. I wont step foot in the place. Best get used to being a league 1/2 club for all eternity.
It's also a model to follow rather than exact replica.
Modular and ability to extend is a good thing, shame nobody designed the Ricoh with that thought really.
They have paid £6 million in rent over 5 years and have zero ownership of the Arena from that £6 million!
They probably see £20 million in building a stadium better suited to our needs, as smarter use of the money going on the rent.
imp:
Who has said Ricoh can't be extended? Give me reasons ....
Of course it can be.
Words of choice on this post if, opportunity.
Lets try contract, fact, agreed, signed.
When they built it, they acknowledged the only way to extend it would be to knock down the stands and rebuild.
There's no provision for a second tier among other things.
I would rather not follow Football then support Incester/Scum
It is perhaps worth pointing out that £400k was only going to be the rent whilst we were in league one and we have only the media reports to go on that said it was £400k, you don't know what other costs and add ons there may have been on top of that. Also it's not just the costs per year that you have to consider, its the net profit after costs so if a new stadium costs the same as renting the Ricoh but generates more in income then it could be significantly more financially attractive.
Before anyone jumps on me I dont support building a new stadium or SISU's ownership in anyway and I believe we must stay at the Ricoh if we are to survive but I think its important to consider everything, not just the headlines.
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