Hopeless (4 Viewers)

oucho

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OK i've had 12 pints today and can barely summon the energy to write this...but....does anyone else feel utterly defeated today? We played the team with the worst defence in the league and lost. We're "gaining" points at a rate that would see us finish with less than 20 points over the course of the season. 4 goals in 9 games. No wins.

I was there today, God help me, but I cannot now see any hope at all. Not going to get into the ownership / stadium / academy issues but clearly these are no helping. On the pitch we lack leaders, we lack any idea of what we are meant to be doing, we lack creativity. We lack all the basics of a successful team. No experience, no common understanding. No lack of passion but we're bloody Coventry City, a team who beat Liverpool, Arsenal and Man U in the 1990s and now we lose to Gillingham and nobody bats an eyelid. We're not some lowly L1 no-marks, we're a big club and the rest of the country is laughing as we lie in our current ignominy. None of my non-Cov supporting mates have ever heard of any of players, and now we're in a battle to avoid ending up in L2.....short of folding altogether, which won't happen IMO, I frankly cannot see how things can get worse. Yes, we can sack Mowbray but at this point we might as well pick a manager at random for all the success previous recruitment has had.

I feel completely beaten, defeated and frustrated. I'll be at Port Vale but with us taking our lowest away crowd since our previous relegation season (the day of that awful ROD miss), the omens are poor and I really fear for us. I don't think we'll cease to exist but I do think L2 beckons now. (slurps pint).

Someone tell me why I've got it wrong.
 

georgehudson

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i clicked like, but i don't like the position we are in,
think you have got a lot of things spot on,
TM to me seems like a 1 legged man put into an arse kicking contest,
our controllers must surely be keeping the mysterious investors at bay,
if those investors knew how their money is being used then surely they would question the controllers actions,
time for CCFC fans to unite in any way we can
PUSB
 

oucho

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maybe it's the beer but i feel like bursting into tears lads.
 

clint van damme

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OK i've had 12 pints today and can barely summon the energy to write this...but....does anyone else feel utterly defeated today? We played the team with the worst defence in the league and lost. We're "gaining" points at a rate that would see us finish with less than 20 points over the course of the season. 4 goals in 9 games. No wins.

I was there today, God help me, but I cannot now see any hope at all. Not going to get into the ownership / stadium / academy issues but clearly these are no helping. On the pitch we lack leaders, we lack any idea of what we are meant to be doing, we lack creativity. We lack all the basics of a successful team. No experience, no common understanding. No lack of passion but we're bloody Coventry City, a team who beat Liverpool, Arsenal and Man U in the 1990s and now we lose to Gillingham and nobody bats an eyelid. We're not some lowly L1 no-marks, we're a big club and the rest of the country is laughing as we lie in our current ignominy. None of my non-Cov supporting mates have ever heard of any of players, and now we're in a battle to avoid ending up in L2.....short of folding altogether, which won't happen IMO, I frankly cannot see how things can get worse. Yes, we can sack Mowbray but at this point we might as well pick a manager at random for all the success previous recruitment has had.

I feel completely beaten, defeated and frustrated. I'll be at Port Vale but with us taking our lowest away crowd since our previous relegation season (the day of that awful ROD miss), the omens are poor and I really fear for us. I don't think we'll cease to exist but I do think L2 beckons now. (slurps pint).

Someone tell me why I've got it wrong.

get to bed mate, it'll all look better in the morning. Sweet dreams.
 

oucho

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joemercersaces

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I know how you feel and I guess most of us feel the same. I've been here since 1969. I really wanted to go today with my lad either to Gillingham or to Blackheath to watch Cov. Glad I didn't go to either now. Nothing ever seems to change and despite the fact that most of the first 32 years of my Citysupporting career were not exactly a bundle of fun we had our good times and we were amongst the elite. Then for a decade or so I've been waiting for our time to come and for us to get back in the big time. But hope is just fading away. We have a bunch of cynical chancers as owners who have no interest in reviving the team, none. My lad is drifting away and who can blame him.
 

ccfcway

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OK i've had 12 pints today and can barely summon the energy to write this...but....does anyone else feel utterly defeated today? We played the team with the worst defence in the league and lost. We're "gaining" points at a rate that would see us finish with less than 20 points over the course of the season. 4 goals in 9 games. No wins.

I was there today, God help me, but I cannot now see any hope at all. Not going to get into the ownership / stadium / academy issues but clearly these are no helping. On the pitch we lack leaders, we lack any idea of what we are meant to be doing, we lack creativity. We lack all the basics of a successful team. No experience, no common understanding. No lack of passion but we're bloody Coventry City, a team who beat Liverpool, Arsenal and Man U in the 1990s and now we lose to Gillingham and nobody bats an eyelid. We're not some lowly L1 no-marks, we're a big club and the rest of the country is laughing as we lie in our current ignominy. None of my non-Cov supporting mates have ever heard of any of players, and now we're in a battle to avoid ending up in L2.....short of folding altogether, which won't happen IMO, I frankly cannot see how things can get worse. Yes, we can sack Mowbray but at this point we might as well pick a manager at random for all the success previous recruitment has had.

I feel completely beaten, defeated and frustrated. I'll be at Port Vale but with us taking our lowest away crowd since our previous relegation season (the day of that awful ROD miss), the omens are poor and I really fear for us. I don't think we'll cease to exist but I do think L2 beckons now. (slurps pint).

Someone tell me why I've got it wrong.

how have none of your mates not heard of 2012 UK Olympics team member Marvin Sordell ?
 

trevelfarandwide

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maybe it's the beer but i feel like bursting into tears lads.

I did that a few years ago, when we dropped into L1. Haven't shed a tear for the club since, I've had to harden myself to the injustice, the continuous bullshit and the perennial mediocrity.

Last week I stated the club was at a new 'low point', and was chastised for saying it (rightly so at the time, perhaps), but today I feel we are, as fans, rapidly approaching that new territory. I will never give up on CCFC, but nevertheless, this point in time is something quite horrendous and soul-destroying. Yet again.

This coming week will be telling, I feel. Something is bound to occur, given the stories surrounding the club.

Someone, please, either save the club or just put it out of our misery.
 

Captain Dart

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I've gone past caring.
Resigned already too achieving nothing this season.
Earliest I've ever done that.
Away games may be the first I knock on the head.

Never mind your other team will win their league.
 

oucho

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Woken up and not feeling much cheerier really (and no it's not a booze hangover!). CCFC hangover more like. Aaarrrggghh!!!!
 

Nick

Administrator
Woken up and not feeling much cheerier really (and no it's not a booze hangover!). CCFC hangover more like. Aaarrrggghh!!!!
Get on the American rumour thread and make some puns about Americans! Sadly it might cheer you up for a few minutes about ccfc to see fans usually at each other's throats indulging in some silly puns.
 

JWC

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I was the most despondent I've been about city than I can remember after walking away from yesterday's game. It really is the lowest i've felt about everything CCFC related, and that's saying something.

One of my major gripes, other than the off the field nonsense, is that we are losing to absolutely one dimensional shit teams. The football we come up against is awful, yet we still can't break teams down and seem clueless how to do so. It's depressing and I'm almost waiting for one of our players to make a mistake before we concede, which inevitably happens. Still we persist with this formation that hasn't worked all season and continue to play some sort of roulette with who will start upfront.

We're simply not good enough to pass our way round 9 men behind the ball and score, all teams are wise to us. We need to get an ugly 1-0 win and get some confidence, but I'm not sure we have the players to dig in and do that.
 

oucho

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I was the most despondent I've been about city than I can remember after walking away from yesterday's game. It really is the lowest i've felt about everything CCFC related, and that's saying something.

One of my major gripes, other than the off the field nonsense, is that we are losing to absolutely one dimensional shit teams. The football we come up against is awful, yet we still can't break teams down and seem clueless how to do so. It's depressing and I'm almost waiting for one of our players to make a mistake before we concede, which inevitably happens. Still we persist with this formation that hasn't worked all season and continue to play some sort of roulette with who will start upfront.

We're simply not good enough to pass our way round 9 men behind the ball and score, all teams are wise to us. We need to get an ugly 1-0 win and get some confidence, but I'm not sure we have the players to dig in and do that.
100% agree JWC. The root of the issue is he's trying to used inexperienced kids to play pretty football in a league foll of physical, hard to break down, streetwise teams. We're being out muscled rather than out-thought. He is tinkering with the personnel to try to get it right, but it doesn't matter which combination of our current squad we use, they all have the same sort of limitations and so the problem persists.
 

Nick

Administrator
100% agree JWC. The root of the issue is he's trying to used inexperienced kids to play pretty football in a league foll of physical, hard to break down, streetwise teams. We're being out muscled rather than out-thought. He is tinkering with the personnel to try to get it right, but it doesn't matter which combination of our current squad we use, they all have the same sort of limitations and so the problem persists.
What makes it worse is that he pointed out he had learnt this last season about league one.
 

oucho

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What makes it worse is that he pointed out he had learnt this last season about league one.
Right, he has learned how not to do it. The more time goes on, the more I think our selling Vincelot, who were clearly miss terribly, was totally unfathomable, and it's worse that we haven't used the money to replace him. On top of all the other quality players we lost, RV going has left us totally lightweight and inexperienced.

At the final whistle we had 3 players in the side over 22. One was the carthorse defender who gifted them the winner, the others were Reid and Sordell who it's fair to say not been great and seem poor in comparison to the players they have replaced.
 

Captain Dart

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What makes it worse is that he pointed out he had learnt this last season about league one.
Actually there are a lot of things he says that make sense then he goes and does differently or runs out of resources to do what he wants to do properly.

For instance.. 22 July, team will get stronger & more experienced
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36869258
the reality is the youngest squad in the whole football league.
 

JWC

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Right, he has learned how not to do it. The more time goes on, the more I think our selling Vincelot, who were clearly miss terribly, was totally unfathomable, and it's worse that we haven't used the money to replace him. On top of all the other quality players we lost, RV going has left us totally lightweight and inexperienced.

At the final whistle we had 3 players in the side over 22. One was the carthorse defender who gifted them the winner, the others were Reid and Sordell who it's fair to say not been great and seem poor in comparison to the players they have replaced.

Agreed. We miss RV badly. I'm not saying he was amazing, but at least he had some of the attributes to compete in this physical league and he was proven. We don't have that now and his sale seems totally bizarre. I had high hopes for Ghadzev, but he isn't filling that role, or any for that matter.

Up until recently i was optimistic and enjoyed the fact that we tried to play good football against awful opposition, despite the results. It worked for a time last season, but man for man we are much worse this season, and after yesterday i've lost faith. It seems that Mowbray has learned nothing.

I don't like to single players out for criticism, but if we're looking to Ricketts for leadership and to provide experience then we are very much in the mire.
 

devonrich

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Stood on the ledge at moment and contemplating. Only thing stopping me from jumping is ..........oh bugger, nothing.
 

georgehudson

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to all intent & purpose, it would appear that monies / support is not forthcoming,
if this is the case, who is putting the block on this ?
& is this a case of trying to distress ?
 

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