Sky Blue Pete
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Glad we had white on reception on telly wasn’t great. And it looked the cameras where on top of the floodlightsKit looks nice
Was the silence for Armistice remembrance?
Aren't there any games next weekend
Ah I see thanks.I think all home teams do it the closest they can to Remembrance day.
I think all home teams do it the closest they can to Remembrance day.
Never more relevant, Coventry is the city of peace and reconciliation and we should remember those that gave their service in defence of our way of life.They need to sack the minute silences off tbh
Never more relevant, Coventry is the city of peace and reconciliation and we should remember those that gave their service in defence of our way of life.
Never more relevant, Coventry is the city of peace and reconciliation and we should remember those that gave their service in defence of our way of life.
NahThey need to sack the minute silences off tbh
A patriot I see.Indeed, but when you look at our current way of life whereby it's set up to keep the rich rich and the poor poor it feels very much like the lesser of two evils. Let's not forget that at the time we were still very much a racist, sexist and homophobic country so it's not like we were or are perfect or anywhere near.
Indeed, but when you look at our current way of life whereby it's set up to keep the rich rich and the poor poor it feels very much like the lesser of two evils. Let's not forget that at the time we were still very much a racist, sexist and homophobic country so it's not like we were or are perfect or anywhere near.
No I don’t mean that I mean it should be a round of applause. The silences are too poorly observed.
Also was I the only one who found it hilarious watching the 2 tigers bowing their heads next to the players
No I don’t mean that I mean it should be a round of applause. The silences are too poorly observed.
Also was I the only one who found it hilarious watching the 2 tigers bowing their heads next to the players
Ha beat me too it.There’s a whole account on it
Agree - As the son of an RAF war hero.It's allowed us to keep our way of life and develop ourselves as people then .
Either way it wouldn't have happened had Hitler won the war
They deserve our respect and remembrance for their extreme bravery and courage
It's allowed us to keep our way of life and develop ourselves as people then .
Either way it wouldn't have happened had Hitler won the war
They deserve our respect and remembrance for their extreme bravery and courage in the face of a formidable and extremely dangerous regime
Of course they deserve respect and remembrance and to have done what they did required immense bravery and courage. But the remembrance isn't just for WWI and WWII - it's for every subsequent conflict and not everything British troops have fought for was good. Less than 10 years after WWII British troops were killed in the Kenyan uprising which is now largely seen as a stain on Britain's reputation. That should not be put on the individual soldiers who were just following orders, but the same could be said of the Germans etc fighting. Earlier in history we've got things like India and Boer which we can hardly claim any sort of moral high ground.
Johnson and his govt have tried to put themselves above the law a few times. They run the govt for the benefit of their wealthy friends and donors while constantly causing hardship for those most vulnerable. Just because it's better than living under the Nazi's doesn't mean it's great and that the society we've become should be held up as some gleaming bastion. Do you think a lot of the soldiers who fought and died back then would have been on board with modern things like acceptance of homosexuality and racial and gender equality? I imagine quite a few would have found the thought of those things abhorrent and be mortified at the lack of religiousness.
If the Celts had managed to keep the Romans at bay we'd have missed out on all the advancements of that civilisation yet at the same time those same Romans killed and enslaved many native Brits in the invasion and quite a few of the Roman emperors were very much from the same stock as Hitler. We don't look upon that as a travesty because of the amount of time that has passed. It's now just of historic interest but at the time I'll bet the Brits considered those that died fighting the Romans as heroes just in the same way we look at soldiers from the world wars.
As horrible as it is, If Germany had won the war chances are we'd be celebrating that instead because history is written by the victors and over time it would have just became another bit of history. Same as with Bonfire Night. Had they succeeded we'd still be having it, just celebrating that we'd got rid of the protestant king and government.
Of course we should commemorate the ex-soldiers, but let's not kid ourselves that we've always been fighting for the right side or that where we've ended up (or where we end up in the future) will be what the soldiers were fighting for. Remembering the fallen should be just that - honouring the dead - but often it feels like it's being used as an excuse to say "we're great" or used as a nationalistic rallying cry to make people gloss over our current failings.
but often it feels like it's being used as an excuse to say "we're great" or used as a nationalistic rallying cry to make people gloss over our current failings.
Indeed, but when you look at our current way of life whereby it's set up to keep the rich rich and the poor poor it feels very much like the lesser of two evils. Let's not forget that at the time we were still very much a racist, sexist and homophobic country so it's not like we were or are perfect or anywhere near.
Okay I will bite, what do our current failings have to do with commemorating our fallen?Of course they deserve respect and remembrance and to have done what they did required immense bravery and courage. But the remembrance isn't just for WWI and WWII - it's for every subsequent conflict and not everything British troops have fought for was good. Less than 10 years after WWII British troops were killed in the Kenyan uprising which is now largely seen as a stain on Britain's reputation. That should not be put on the individual soldiers who were just following orders, but the same could be said of the Germans etc fighting. Earlier in history we've got things like India and Boer which we can hardly claim any sort of moral high ground.
Johnson and his govt have tried to put themselves above the law a few times. They run the govt for the benefit of their wealthy friends and donors while constantly causing hardship for those most vulnerable. Just because it's better than living under the Nazi's doesn't mean it's great and that the society we've become should be held up as some gleaming bastion. Do you think a lot of the soldiers who fought and died back then would have been on board with modern things like acceptance of homosexuality and racial and gender equality? I imagine quite a few would have found the thought of those things abhorrent and be mortified at the lack of religiousness.
If the Celts had managed to keep the Romans at bay we'd have missed out on all the advancements of that civilisation yet at the same time those same Romans killed and enslaved many native Brits in the invasion and quite a few of the Roman emperors were very much from the same stock as Hitler. We don't look upon that as a travesty because of the amount of time that has passed. It's now just of historic interest but at the time I'll bet the Brits considered those that died fighting the Romans as heroes just in the same way we look at soldiers from the world wars.
As horrible as it is, If Germany had won the war chances are we'd be celebrating that instead because history is written by the victors and over time it would have just became another bit of history. Same as with Bonfire Night. Had they succeeded we'd still be having it, just celebrating that we'd got rid of the protestant king and government.
Of course we should commemorate the ex-soldiers, but let's not kid ourselves that we've always been fighting for the right side or that where we've ended up (or where we end up in the future) will be what the soldiers were fighting for. Remembering the fallen should be just that - honouring the dead - but often it feels like it's being used as an excuse to say "we're great" or used as a nationalistic rallying cry to make people gloss over our current failings.
I dont think they’re slagging off servicemen and women?I'm sorry I'm not about to sit here slagging off our servicemen and women , and those in the past because they thought differently to you 80/100 years ago , as an ex serviceman myself who was involved in Iraq and Afghanistan I have nothing but admiration for our heroes past and present .
I don't share your opinions on this
It's not about nationalism it's simply respect, although looking at the queen thread it's very difficult for some to be respectful
But you are free to voice your opinion with fear of retribution.
According to whom? You?What is clear is that you are on the wrong side of this conversation.
Well the fact that we have a Remembrance Sunday, poppy appeal and a British Legion is a clue.According to whom? You?
Sky blue dreamer says to commemorate ex soldiers and honour the dead. So which other part exactly is he on the wrong side of?Well the fact that we have a Remembrance Sunday, poppy appeal and a British Legion is a clue.
I don’t know what is so difficult? If you don’t want to remember those that sacrificed so much for us then that’s a choice for you to make, which they died to earn.
if you believe in Sky Blue Dreamers view then I suspect you are on the wrong side of the argument too.
I am sorry that you believe I am telling you anything.Sky blue dreamer says to commemorate ex soldiers and honour the dead. So which other part exactly is he on the wrong side of?
Or am I now also going to be told I'm on the wrong side to?
Well the fact that we have a Remembrance Sunday, poppy appeal and a British Legion is a clue.
I don’t know what is so difficult? If you don’t want to remember those that sacrificed so much for us then that’s a choice for you to make, which they died to earn.
if you believe in Sky Blue Dreamers view then I suspect you are on the wrong side of the argument too.
In other words you can't answer.I am sorry that you believe I am telling you anything.
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