How would you set up to change it? (1 Viewer)

Saddlebrains · Sep 15, 2022

We've all been crying out for a change of shape, and with the Rose injury we will surely have too?

The good news is it seems Kane Kelly and more importantly Callum will be back for Boro on the 1st October. Lets muddle through and hope for the best v Brum but as of Boro I would go...

Moore

Kane Panzo Doyle Bidwell
Kelly Sheaf
Hamer O'Hare
Godden Gyok

Return of the box.

Kane and Bidwell more natural Full backs, I feel Kelly and Sheaf could do a great job of screening Panzo and Doyle

Going forward we all know how dangerous Hamer, Callum, Gyok and Godden can be

Subs wise

Wilson, Dabo, Fadz, Palmer, Allen, Waghorn, Walker, Tavares

A fresh Dabo may do more than the shit he has recently, Palmer has it in his locker to open a defence and we all know Tavares has pace. If leading, waghorn on for Godden to hold the ball up

Something needs to change, don't see why this wouldn't work

rob9872 · Sep 15, 2022

Saddlebrains said:
We've all been crying out for a change of shape, and with the Rose injury we will surely have too?

The good news is it seems Kane Kelly and more importantly Callum will be back for Boro on the 1st October. Lets muddle through and hope for the best v Brum but as of Boro I would go...

Moore

Kane Panzo Doyle Bidwell
Kelly Sheaf
Hamer O'Hare
Godden Gyok

Return of the box.

Kane and Bidwell more natural Full backs, I feel Kelly and Sheaf could do a great job of screening Panzo and Doyle

Going forward we all know how dangerous Hamer, Callum, Gyok and Godden can be

Subs wise

Wilson, Dabo, Fadz, Palmer, Allen, Waghorn, Walker, Tavares

A fresh Dabo may do more than the shit he has recently, Palmer has it in his locker to open a defence and we all know Tavares has pace. If leading, waghorn on for Godden to hold the ball up

Something needs to change, don't see why this wouldn't work

Sorry but that's a horrible team, much worse than we have.

edgy · Sep 15, 2022

Not sure the box works with a flat back 4. We'd be wide open down either side.

Kelly should only be used as backup, fresh legs after 70 mins type of thing. He hasnt got the quality required.

And although O'Hare is said "to be back" after international break, does that mean back training or back in the side? I'm thinking the former.

rob9872 · Sep 15, 2022

Hamer too far forward, ohare won't be ready that quick although ahead of schedule and nostalgia wanting Kane and Kelly who aren't at the level. Two footballing left footers at cb and despite Fadz age and lack of pace he adds experience, organisation, ability to read the game, physicality and being a leader.

SkyBlueScottie · Sep 15, 2022

No width with that proposed line up, very narrow. Thought we looked better last night with Doyle on the right. So would stick with that. My preference would be the same line up bar Allen. I get he is busy, but Ive never thought him good enough at this level. Cant wait for O Hare to return.

rob9872 · Sep 15, 2022

The team that ended last night, change Wilson for Moore and either Palmer or Waghorn for Allen and that's our best currently imo

rob9872 · Sep 15, 2022

SkyBlueScottie said:
No width with that proposed line up, very narrow. Thought we looked better last night with Doyle on the right. So would stick with that. My preference would be the same line up bar Allen. I get he is busy, but Ive never thought him good enough at this level. Cant wait for O Hare to return.

Beat me to it, agree

rob9872 · Sep 15, 2022

I wasn't even sure whether Allen was supposed to be playing as a 6 or a 10 last night, but ineffectual at both.

SkyblueDad · Sep 15, 2022

If we go to a flat back four we need someone in front of it, Sheaf has done it so could a fit Kelly or could Panzo do it ? Overlapping full backs nothing new and plenty teams do it as for the two centre-backs a big question mark probably McFadz and Doyle unless we able to bring someone once Cahill been mentioned a few times but very unlikely imo.

Saddlebrains · Sep 15, 2022

Lets keep it as it is then and hope, that will work

CovBrummie94 · Sep 15, 2022

I'd much rather see a change of personnel than a change of system for the next game. Although looking at last night's bench I'm not sure what I'd change.

Maybe:
Panzo in for Rose
Burroughs in for Dabo
Palmer in for Allen

McFadz only stays in cause we have nobody else to replace him.

Ian1779 · Sep 15, 2022

I think we start the back 5 that we finished the game with.
There is an argument to start Palmer over Allen in that AM role - even if he only lasts 60 mins you then have either Waghorn or Allen to bring on.
I am tempted to leave Godden and Gyokeres up front still, I think whatever the ‘issue’ was the little bit of needle between them might be worth harnessing.

Ian1779 · Sep 15, 2022

It also feels like there is friction between a attack that feels it’s doing it’s job, and a defence they feel isn’t doing theirs.

Sick Boy · Sep 15, 2022

I’d be surprised if CoH was back starting games before November.

rexo87 · Sep 15, 2022

Kelly will be an important player in trying to keep us up IF he can stay fit

KenilworthSkyBlue · Sep 15, 2022

rexo87 said:
Kelly will be an important player in trying to keep us up IF he can stay fit

Why will he?

Putting his appalling injury record aside, he's hardly a Championship-quality player even when fit.

shmmeee · Sep 15, 2022

Far too narrow IMO and the defenders aren’t good enough for it. Also Kelly is injured and gash.

Only way I can see four at the back working is a 433 or 4231 that pushes our forwards like Gyok wide.

Crazy idea I know, but I’d play our marquee summer signing.

Grendel · Sep 15, 2022

shmmeee said:
Far too narrow IMO and the defenders aren’t good enough for it. Also Kelly is injured and gash.

Only way I can see four at the back working is a 433 or 4231 that pushes our forwards like Gyok wide.

Crazy idea I know, but I’d play our marquee summer signing.

He was our only summer signing

Londonccfcfan · Sep 15, 2022

Saddlebrains said:
We've all been crying out for a change of shape, and with the Rose injury we will surely have too?

The good news is it seems Kane Kelly and more importantly Callum will be back for Boro on the 1st October. Lets muddle through and hope for the best v Brum but as of Boro I would go...

Moore

Kane Panzo Doyle Bidwell
Kelly Sheaf
Hamer O'Hare
Godden Gyok

Return of the box.

Kane and Bidwell more natural Full backs, I feel Kelly and Sheaf could do a great job of screening Panzo and Doyle

Going forward we all know how dangerous Hamer, Callum, Gyok and Godden can be

Subs wise

Wilson, Dabo, Fadz, Palmer, Allen, Waghorn, Walker, Tavares

A fresh Dabo may do more than the shit he has recently, Palmer has it in his locker to open a defence and we all know Tavares has pace. If leading, waghorn on for Godden to hold the ball up

Something needs to change, don't see why this wouldn't work

The performances have been better than our results suggest. Apart from Norwich.

I wouldnt change it. Rose really isnt a miss squad player at best.

We do need another central defender in. Bidwell can cover one left sided slot and if we are really desperate Rose gets a shout.

CDK · Sep 15, 2022

edgy said:
Not sure the box works with a flat back 4. We'd be wide open down either side.

Kelly should only be used as backup, fresh legs after 70 mins type of thing. He hasnt got the quality required.

And although O'Hare is said "to be back" after international break, does that mean back training or back in the side? I'm thinking the former.

The box works better with 3Cbs and wing backs.

clint van damme · Sep 15, 2022

Kelly seems to be another one whose reputation is getting elevated massively beyond his ability in his absence.

ceetee · Sep 15, 2022

I've only seen the Preston game so far this season but it didn't change my opinion from last season that Godden and Gyokeres are not a good pairing.

Robinshio · Sep 15, 2022

I would go old fashioned Sweeper with Panzo in that role, rather than the flat 3

rexo87 · Sep 15, 2022

KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Why will he?

Putting his appalling injury record aside, he's hardly a Championship-quality player even when fit.

In a side that is struggling defensively he is very useful. provides a screen in front of the defence and often makes crucial interceptions and even winning headers from crosses. He is good enough for a bottom 6 championship club

Grendel · Sep 15, 2022

rexo87 said:
In a side that is struggling defensively he is very useful. provides a screen in front of the defence and often makes crucial interceptions and even winning headers from crosses. He is good enough for a bottom 6 championship club

If we are relying on Kelly god help us

stevefloyd · Sep 15, 2022

Kelly needs to be match fit to be any good and as I have said before by the time he gets up to speed he has another long term injury although even when he's trying to get fit he is still better than Allen on his latest showings who is still like a puppy trying to chase a football

PUSB-We_are_going_up · Sep 15, 2022

Moore
Dabo - Fadz - Doyle - Bidwell
Sheaf - Hamer
Palmer - O’hare - Gyökeres
Godden

ccfc1234 · Sep 15, 2022

Grendel said:
If we are relying on Kelly god help us

Not saying its not without some justification, but I get the impression you think that about half the team!

Hutch11 · Sep 15, 2022

I'd only put Moore back in nets if we're sure he's got over the yips

Offhegoes · Sep 15, 2022

KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Why will he?

Putting his appalling injury record aside, he's hardly a Championship-quality player even when fit.

Harsh. He played a crucial role at the end of our first season back in the Championship, along with Marty James in keeping us up. He missed most of last season, but made Godden’s goal against Bristol City with a sublime pass. He was also excellent against Stoke in the last game of the season.
I know his injury record is shite, but if we can keep him fit until the end of the season, he’ll be a real asset. Otherwise if Sheaf or Hamer are injured we have Eccles or Howley.

fernandopartridge · Sep 15, 2022

KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Why will he?

Putting his appalling injury record aside, he's hardly a Championship-quality player even when fit.

I agree with you but can also see how we might actually benefit from some back to basics play with Kelly in the side

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Brighton Sky Blue · Sep 15, 2022

Hutch11 said:
I'd only put Moore back in nets if we're sure he's got over the yips

He won’t do that on the bench

mmttww · Sep 15, 2022

GK - F*ck knows
RB - Kane if fit
CB - Doyle
CB - Panzo
LB - Bidwell
DM - Sheaf
DM - Hamer
AM - Palmer
RW - Waghorn
CF - Godden
LW - Vik

Waghorn and Vik cutting in on their strongest feet. Godden for through balls from Palmer and crosses. Reckon it could work. Defence still scares me.

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