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Nick

Nick

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #106
Sky Blue Pete said:
If you go on some of the addiction web sites you’d get an idea of the level of activity
Rumours of 350000 to 750000 where do you expect them to be housed?
it’s an epedemic
Most people convicted the biggest loss is their careers family and friends rather than prison
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That many people who have had dodgy porn that cant be jailed? :(
 
Sky Blue Pete

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #107
Yep epedemic
And why if you admit and haven’t distributed you’re likely to get non custodial
Doesn’t condone it of course
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #108
Sky Blue Pete said:
Yep epedemic
And why if you admit and haven’t distributed you’re likely to get non custodial
Doesn’t condone it of course
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I can understand that though. What I struggle with is the bloke distributing, who has previous, only getting a suspended too. He clearly hasn't learned anything from his past!
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #109
www.lucyfaithfull.org.uk

NPCC report highlights the shocking scale of child sexual abuse in the UK and the need for all of us to play our part in prevention. - Lucy Faithfull Foundation

Today’s report from the National Police Chiefs’ Council is a sobering reminder of the realities of child sexual abuse in the UK. According to today’s figures, there were 107,000 recorded child sexual abuse offences in 2022. Responding, Deborah Denis, CEO of the Lucy Faithfull Foundation, said...
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I’m sorry I had to find out due to something happening to us
 
Liquid Gold

Liquid Gold

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #110
Sky Blue Pete said:
If you go on some of the addiction web sites you’d get an idea of the level of activity
Rumours of 350000 to 750000 where do you expect them to be housed?
it’s an epedemic
Most people convicted the biggest loss is their careers family and friends rather than prison
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350,000 to 750,000 is just astonishing numbers.

What does that entail though? It can't be numbers on the SOR. Is it just people that have have self reported as having an interest and not taken action on it extrapolated out to the population?
 
Sky Blue Pete

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #111
Liquid Gold said:
350,000 to 750,000 is just astonishing numbers.

What does that entail though? It can't be numbers on the SOR. Is it just people that have have self reported as having an interest and not taken action on it extrapolated out to the population?
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The 2022 link is offences I think or charges
It’s increased astronomically
 
Diogenes

Diogenes

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  • Aug 4, 2024
  • #112
 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 16, 2024
  • #113
A suspended sentence. Those prisons are too full I guess
 

SomersetSB

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  • Sep 16, 2024
  • #114
Grendel said:
A suspended sentence. Those prisons are too full I guess
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Starmer should step in and find him a cell, but he hasn’t got the balls, how the hell has he avoided a jail term? There’s plenty of spaces now!!
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 16, 2024
  • #115
Grendel said:
A suspended sentence. Those prisons are too full I guess
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Not excusing his behaviour but he’s lost his career, reputation, probably friends and family. Not sure what imprisoning someone adds to the punishment.
absolutely take the point of deterrent and victim having been damaged and risk of reoffending but would imagine he’s on the sex offenders register for a period of time
 
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Marty

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  • Sep 16, 2024
  • #116
Sky Blue Pete said:
Not excusing his behaviour but he’s lost his career, reputation, probably friends and family. Not sure what imprisoning someone adds to the punishment.
absolutely take the point of deterrent and victim having been damaged and risk of reoffending but would imagine he’s on the sex offenders register for a period of time
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Keeps the streets safe from a nonce, Pete. Thats what they're there for, keep the scum locked away.
 
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JAM See

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  • Sep 16, 2024
  • #117
Sky Blue Pete said:
Not excusing his behaviour but he’s lost his career, reputation, probably friends and family. Not sure what imprisoning someone adds to the punishment.
absolutely take the point of deterrent and victim having been damaged and risk of reoffending but would imagine he’s on the sex offenders register for a period of time
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He's fucked.
The chance of recidivism is close to zero.
No need to house him on the public dollar.

There will be an interview with a tabloid in the next year or so though.
 

Nick

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  • Sep 16, 2024
  • #118
Grendel said:
A suspended sentence. Those prisons are too full I guess
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Need spaces for people posting online, let the nonces and cunts carrying knives crack on though.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Sep 16, 2024
  • #119
JAM See said:
He's fucked.
The chance of recidivism is close to zero.
No need to house him on the public dollar.

There will be an interview with a tabloid in the next year or so though.
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He was actually classified by psychologists & pre-sentence experts as ‘medium risk’, with the comment that if he was sent/ saw similar images then he could well reoffend.

With this in mind it is categorically not true to say the chance of recidivism is close to zero.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 16, 2024
  • #120
Marty said:
Keeps the streets safe from a nonce, Pete. Thats what they're there for, keep the scum locked away.
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Have a read he voluntarily stopped receiving any more pictures before the police caught up with him
Not excusing his behaviour just laying out the evidence
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 16, 2024
  • #121
Ring Of Steel said:
He was actually classified by psychologists & pre-sentence experts as ‘medium risk’, with the comment that if he was sent/ saw similar images then he could well reoffend.

With this in mind it is categorically not true to say the chance of recidivism is close to zero.
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Hence why he is on the sex offender register for 7 years and has received a suspended prison sentence
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 16, 2024
  • #122
Sky Blue Pete said:
Have a read he voluntarily stopped receiving any more pictures before the police caught up with him
Not excusing his behaviour just laying out the evidence
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The councillors wife deleted her post and apologised before the police contacted her, yet most want her hung! I did tell myself I wouldn't get involved on this when I saw the sentence as I knew everyone would be frothing relating it to the riots. They're not at all linked but equally can understand the outrage. I think in this climate it was a bit of an own goal to have not insisted on at least a small custodial.
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 16, 2024
  • #123
rob9872 said:
The councillors wife deleted her post and apologised before the police contacted her, yet most want her hung! I did tell myself I wouldn't get involved on this when I saw the sentence as I knew everyone would be frothing relating it to the riots. They're not at all linked but equally can understand the outrage. I think in this climate it was a bit of an own goal to have not insisted on at least a small custodial.
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She plead guilty. Did you want the court to disagree?
 

Marty

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  • Sep 16, 2024
  • #124
Sky Blue Pete said:
Have a read he voluntarily stopped receiving any more pictures before the police caught up with him
Not excusing his behaviour just laying out the evidence
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So that makes it ok then? He's a sick pervert that needs locking away.
 

rob9872

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  • Sep 16, 2024
  • #125
shmmeee said:
She plead guilty. Did you want the court to disagree?
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So did Huw. My point was to Pete, whose caveat was that he'd stopped.
 

Tommo1993

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  • Sep 16, 2024
  • #126
Weird question. How does one get rehabilitated out of illegal porn? Do they just show him legal stuff?
 
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shmmeee

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  • Sep 16, 2024
  • #127
rob9872 said:
So did Huw. My point was to Pete, whose caveat was that he'd stopped.
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And I’m sure her regret will be reflected in her sentencing. I don’t agree with Pete and think Edward’s should be in prison, but I think he was talking to the fact he’s stopped before he was caught.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 16, 2024
  • #128
Marty said:
So that makes it ok then? He's a sick pervert that needs locking away.
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Where did I say it makes it ok
He’s fucked up and lost everything and most would say he deserved too
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 16, 2024
  • #129
Tommo1993 said:
Weird question. How does one get rehabilitated out of illegal porn? Do they just show him legal stuff?
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Good question actually. With other addictions you would say stop all together. Suppressing all urges is possibly more damaging and comes with greater risk.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 16, 2024
  • #130
rob9872 said:
The councillors wife deleted her post and apologised before the police contacted her, yet most want her hung! I did tell myself I wouldn't get involved on this when I saw the sentence as I knew everyone would be frothing relating it to the riots. They're not at all linked but equally can understand the outrage. I think in this climate it was a bit of an own goal to have not insisted on at least a small custodial.
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It’s not a political decision though it’s a judiciary and I have huge problems with someone being imprisoned for using words
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 16, 2024
  • #131
Tommo1993 said:
Weird question. How does one get rehabilitated out of illegal porn? Do they just show him legal stuff?
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Have a look at lucy faithful foundation and you can see
You recognise where the offending behaviour arose and set up mechanisms to ensure that you don’t repeat the behaviour

Lucy Faithfull Foundation - Preventing child sexual abuse

Lucy Faithfull Foundation works to protect children by working with people who pose a risk and diverting them from causing harm.
www.lucyfaithfull.org.uk

There maybe people on here who are getting involved in activity that they can’t control or see a way out. This is a good first step to take

The mistake many of you make is that it could never happen to you or any of your friends and the reality is it does and it could
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Sep 16, 2024
  • #132
rob9872 said:
Good question actually. With other addictions you would say stop all together. Suppressing all urges is possibly more damaging and comes with greater risk.
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It sounds like one of those dogdy “asking for a mate…” things. So I wondered if I should even ask.

But couldn’t think of what would go on. It’s not something like drugs, alcohol, eating disorders etc. I’m flummoxed.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Sep 16, 2024
  • #133
Tommo1993 said:
Weird question. How does one get rehabilitated out of illegal porn? Do they just show him legal stuff?
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I’d imagine it’s more like a compulsion, so effectively they can’t be.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 16, 2024
  • #134
Tommo1993 said:
It sounds like one of those dogdy “asking for a mate…” things. So I wondered if I should even ask.

But couldn’t think of what would go on. It’s not something like drugs, alcohol, eating disorders etc. I’m flummoxed.
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It’s very like that for some if not many that offend. It’s an addiction that drags someone deeper and deeper down through porn to extreme porn to criminality and unless there is a way out ends in arrest charge and lives destroyed
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Sep 16, 2024
  • #135
Sick Boy said:
I’d imagine it’s more like a compulsion, so effectively they can’t be.
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In some cases it can. Usually it’s when someone totally loses the plot- mental illness, manic depression etc, and they end up doing things that they formerly had zero interest in to fill some kind of void. In those cases rehabilitation is possible, it’s the ones who always had that type of ‘interest’ that can effectively never be rehabilitated.

in this case Edwards asked to stop receiving stuff, if he was a genuine paedophile he’d never have done that, because as you say it’s a compulsion.

I’m not sticking up for him either.
 
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Marty

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  • Sep 16, 2024
  • #136
Sky Blue Pete said:
Where did I say it makes it ok
He’s fucked up and lost everything and most would say he deserved too
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You seems to be almost weirdly defending him, it's ok everyone, he stopped before he was caught and he hasn't lost everything, he hasn't lost his freedom.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 16, 2024
  • #137
Ring Of Steel said:
In some cases it can. Usually it’s when someone totally loses the plot- mental illness, manic depression etc, and they end up doing things that they formerly had zero interest in to fill some kind of void. In those cases rehabilitation is possible, it’s the ones who always had that type of ‘interest’ that can effectively never be rehabilitated.
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I think the evidence suggests that they don’t lose the attraction but can absolutely be able to take steps to recognise that what they want to do is wrong and not do it
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 16, 2024
  • #138
Marty said:
You seems to be almost weirdly defending him, it's ok everyone, he stopped before he was caught and he hasn't lost everything, he hasn't lost his freedom.
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ok like much on here attempting nuance means you condone what he’s done ok
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 16, 2024
  • #139
Sky Blue Pete said:
Where did I say it makes it ok
He’s fucked up and lost everything and most would say he deserved too
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He has freedom and a massive salary paid by the BBC after his guilty plea
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 16, 2024
  • #140
Grendel said:
He has freedom and a massive salary paid by the BBC after his guilty plea
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Do you know if he’s on a sexual harm prevention order and do you know what being on the sex offenders register entails?
but yes he is not imprisoned I wouldn’t go so far as freedom
Was he not disciplined for gross misconduct? Or just suspended pending court case?
I’ve not read that
Should someone who stops offending before being caught, pleads guilty and shows remorse be treated differently to someone who hasn’t done those things?
 
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