Mucca Mad Boys
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The main Arab who owns Man City barely shows his face at he ground and Ipswich's owner could walk among the fans in the stands and no one would know who he was, so what?
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The main Arab who owns Man City barely shows his face at he ground and Ipswich's owner could walk among the fans in the stands and no one would know who he was, so what?
Brighton Sky Blue
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To second guess ACL's actions after accepting a rent offer is a little foolish. The repeated concessions made were done to desperately try and settle the contract breaking orgy initiated by Tim which has caused this whole fiasco to escalate ten fold. Stop blaming ACL for this and accept that the club fecked itself royally by signing over its stake and getting itself relegated twice.
Were we a Championship side then needing to boost turnover would not be part of FFP.
Were we a Championship side then needing to boost turnover would not be part of FFP.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Neither has promised to improve relations with fans or threatened to withdraw funding for the club.
Mucca Mad Boys
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That weren't my point.
It's her choice if she goes o games or not, quite frankly, I don't give a shit whether she goes to games or not, and don't know why people hold it against her for not going? If you're not a fan, why would anyone want to watch that shit?
Brighton Sky Blue
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I don't care whether she goes to games but not once has she appeared in public to explain her intentions for the club or address concerns which are now widespread.
Mucca Mad Boys
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She's employed Waggott and Fisher to do that...
Brighton Sky Blue
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My point was it's her we should be asking questions of rather than a heavily overweight Geordie.
Mucca Mad Boys
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:laugh: :laugh:
Brighton Sky Blue
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I thought you were Sky Blue Taylor rather than Sky Blue Kid?
Mucca Mad Boys
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Brighton Sky Blue
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What?
I found that post funny. Which one is the Geordie?
I was joking SBT. Waggott is, quite obviously!
Mucca Mad Boys
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Phew!
I haven't heard either speak so I genuinely didn't know.
Anyone got a link of Waggott speaking?
dongonzalos
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Try to blackmail people into handing you things to sell or threaten to destroy the club if you don't get your way.
However I think this particular end game isn't going as they expected.
Mucca Mad Boys
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They haven't blackmailed ACL into handing them the RICOH though? They're withholding payment of rent until a new agreement is agreed. They won't destroy the club because that'd mean they lose all our their investment just like that.
I don't see how owning the RICOH alone would be their endgame, it'd take 80-odd years (at 500k profit-a-year) to get their money back and the council wouldn't sell them their share anyway, and if they did get a 1/2 share they wouldn't be able to rocket rent up like conspiracy-theorists (that gives them too much credit, ok, boneheads would be more appropriate) because they and the council would need to agree on it.
Their most realistic endgame is either: call it a day and accept they've lost 45m, or, take more risks on CCFC getting to the prem.
Nonleagueherewecome
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Of course, accountability and transparency are a little lower down a list of supporter's concerns when you've just won the Premier League, rather than hit the lowest point in the club's modern history..
Grendel
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Which of course outlines the pure hypocrisy of the argument. The moral defendants of the council and its little quango would be less vocal if the club was experiencing success and saw their stance as a barrier to further achievements.
Nonleagueherewecome
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SBT I don't see that much evidence of them "gambling on reaching the Premiership", do you? We signed one player for money last season and made a huge surplus on the transfer balance sheet. Not exactly "going for it"! It looks a lot more like an attempt to cut all costs, which is standard hedge fund behaviour. If anything was uncharacteristic for a hedge fund, it was the original Ranson blueprint of "speculate to accumulate"; that simpy isn't what these companies do. In on the cheap, cut costs, sell a profitable business on in under two years (often as little as three or four months!) is the usual hedge fund plan. They are in completely unfamiliar territory here.
Mucca Mad Boys
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What about this season where we've brought in 20-odd players? And had it not been for Thorn and Shaw, we'd probably be sat in the top 6 comfortably.
Nonleagueherewecome
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Don't be daft, people are obviously vocal because we are in such a terrible mess and set to potentially go to the wall! If we were in the Champions League we wouldn't have much to moan about. Duh.
Nonleagueherewecome
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In terms of those players brought in it is still on a shoestring compared to the likes of Norwich, Leeds, Southampton, Leicester and Sheff Wed when at this level. These teams were signing players for proper money, not just cast off freebies and loans, and not selling their best players. Not saying we were in a position to do any different, but to suggest that we've been massively backed in the transfer market compared to what seriously ambitious owners have done elsewhere is laughable.
Grendel
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That is not the opinion expressed by many though is it? They see it as immoral behaviour and claim they would not condone under any circumstance.
At least we both agree that such a "view" is tosh.
Nonleagueherewecome
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Behave, you haven't got my agreement on anything! The circumstances whereby our clubs future is imperilled is what has people angry, and if we were in the Champions League (and not Leeds..) we wouldn't have the other problems we have. I'm angry because of what they've done to my club-that they are utterly reprehensible moral cowards merely exacerbates my already ferocious rage.
I can't be arsed to read through loads of pages so I'll lay some facts down. SISU got us relegated by failing to invest in an already thin playing squad. SISU then proceded to leave Ken Delieu in charge and he put himself in the dugout, that made us the laughing stock of the footballing nation. Brody then tried to introduce a 'fans decide the subs' concept to the club, again the football world laughed in our pathetic faces. Those 3 reasons alone should be enough to want SISU out of this club.
Yeah, spot on, they've never had a clue.
Obvious to anyone that has.:guitar2::guitar2: