Do you think ccfc would fall as far a Sunday league on pitch 3 at nico?
Do you think ccfc would fall as far a Sunday league on pitch 3 at nico?
So you think CCFC will relocate permanently? That's funny. I don't think the FL will let it happen, they just can't. and we're only 'temporarily moving for 3 years'.
You do know the FL will only ratify a ground share in Northampton if there is evidence that we will return to Coventry, to prevent a repeat of Wimbledon/MK Dons scenario.
Nah screw them. Sisu can get lost its our club!! Without us they will not own anything!! Not willing to give up without a fight!! We need to educate, aggravate and eliminate
I think it can remove the fight in somePete I agree with you that we should not give up without a fight.
But having a plan B is not giving up.
I wonder whether a phoenix club would be supported by PH4, Hoffman and Elliott. If so, why not play at the Ricoh with sensible ticket prices and a properly run club.
PH4 could then proceed with his development plans, and possibly be in on the start of something big.
This would also end any hopes SISU might have of acquiring the Ricoh, which many think is their ultimate target.
What about Coventry Singers 1883 as a name to give a link to the birth of the club, and stake a claim, like AFC Wiimbledon have done to the club history ?
A midlands combination division 2 team playing at the Ricoh paying £400k rent plus £10k match fees?
Supported by PH4, the money you quote would be small change. However, I would expect PH4 to buy into ACL, in which case the deal would be different.
A couple of promotions would see the crowds increase, whilst the SISU club will only decline, unless SISU change their ways.
A midlands combination division 2 team playing at the Ricoh paying £400k rent plus £10k match fees?
PH4 buying into a Phoenix club takes control away from the supporters, which is the very reason to start a Phoenix; control over the future of the club! Any non-CCFC supporter investing in the club is going to want profit, that's the nature of business; profit! Is PH4 a cov fan?
Stu, you may have missed the suggestion I made on page 5:-
To this end I would also suggest that it would be in the wider interests of CCC/ACL (both in terms of the image of the city and longer term investment) to support this venture by making the Ricoh available to the phoenix club without charge as it's home right from the start in the Midland Combination, with revenues all going to the football club to enable investment to give it the greatest chance of year on year promotions.
If they can afford to give it to Phoenix for free, couldn't they have offered lower than £400k to ccfc?
And even if rent free, what about utilities, etc?
And even if rent free, what about utilities, cleaning, stewarding, pitch maintenance, etc?
You have a point but what if the terms of buying into the Ricoh include making an initial non-controlling investment into the football club. Again I would say that it is in the long term interests of CCC/ACL to have a successful football club in the city, and so they should support such a term.
The other point I would make is that unless we have very wealthy philanthropic fans (which we don't appear to have), at some stage in the development and progress of the phoenix club we will need outside investment of some sort from somewhere.
If they can afford to give it to Phoenix for free, couldn't they have offered lower than £400k to ccfc?
And even if rent free, what about utilities, etc?
Agreed, it depends what you want the Phoenix club to be. If you want it to progress through the leagues, there will, as you say, have to be some outside investment. I think PH4's interest from a money making point is the surrounding land, that does not have to create debt for the football club. If you have people in charge of the football club who care about the club, you will avoid the situation we find ourselves in. The new Coventry United has investment from local businessmen who are disillusioned CCFC fans.
Remember, PH4 has said that he favours supporter involvement.
They did. They offered it for free while in admin.
Yes that how it seemed, but they only offered it to ltd who have no players, coaching staff, etc. apparently Appleton's legal team told ACLs on the 12 June, yet ACL have co tinted to peddle the free offer...
And it was a free offer pending £10k per match fees.
Mr Appleton said: “The offer made by ACL to allow the club to play at the Ricoh was dependent on Coventry City FC Limited remaining in administration. That is obviously still the case.
“However, as I’ve stated on many occasions, including my press release last Thursday following the completion of the sale of the Company’s assets, Holdings employs the players.
“There are insufficient assets in Limited to employ either a team of players, associated coaching staff or commercial operations to take up this offer. I’m somewhat surprised to hear ACL claim they have heard nothing from me on this matter given their solicitor was fully briefed on the reasons behind the decision not to take
up their offer by my legal team on June 12.
“A CVA document is a document designed to inform creditors of how they will be paid in a full and final settlement. There is no necessity to outline any other details.”
Stu, you do realise that every single club in England pays match fees?
We'd need to talk to ACL and see what could be agreed. I think first we need to show that there is serious support for a re-born CCFC. All suggestions, efforts welcomed!
https://www.facebook.com/Coventry1883
We'd need to talk to ACL and see what could be agreed. I think first we need to show that there is serious support for a re-born CCFC. All suggestions, efforts welcomed!
https://www.facebook.com/Coventry1883
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