Nick
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This is exactly the point I am making. When you point something out as being an issue with O'Hare, you get this over and over.
To be fair, Shipley's free kicks since that Luton one have been horrific.
To be fair you've been quick to claim he's been amazing.I think as others have pointed out it’s you that has the fixation on him.
I don’t think it gets swept under the rug I tends to be in many posts whatever the heading.Correct. But why does O’Hare‘s poor end product get swept under the rug as much as it does? Because he’s a better player, maybe. So what, he should still be scoring more.
To be fair you've been quick to claim he's been amazing.
Got this on your spreadsheet?
Match Thread - Huddersfield away
That's a league 1 team right there. Expecting a hiding today. Roll on Januarywww.skybluestalk.co.uk
Saying O'Hare looked on it when he'd had about two touches.
Maybe.he’s our most influential player and one of the most we’ve had in decades. That’s it really
No he isn't.he’s our most influential player and one of the most we’ve had in decades. That’s it really
No he isn't.
Dennis wise for onewho is then
Denis Wise was 39 when he joined us, on the face of could have been a disaster, particularly as he had only played 11 games the previous season. More luck than judgement I would say.Dennis wise for one
As per usual you go way, way over the top. Looking busy.
Didn't say anything about scouting or luck. Just he was much more influential for us.Denis Wise was 39 when he joined us, on the face of could have been a disaster, particularly as he had only played 11 games the previous season. More luck than judgement I would say.
Sorry but even if he was consistently scoring 10 goals a season he would still be here. He’s not good enough for the Premier League.
If it was just his finishing that’s stopping him being an “adequate” Premier League midfielder then I think clubs would take a punt on him for £5mil (a drop in the ocean to them) and get top finishing coaches working with him. But it won’t happen - I’d be surprised if any clubs came in for him (although I sincerely hope I’m wrong). Whereas I fully expect there to be interest in Hamer & Sheaf in the summer.
Oppositions fans single him out because they see a little player playing with his heart on his sleeve, running around lots and getting stuck in. They aren’t aware of how poor his goal contributions are. They aren’t aware how much he lacks composure. They aren’t aware of how bad his shooting and final ball is. Don’t you think if he was as good as people made out on here a higher-budget Championship club would be in for him? Let’s face it, we’re not turning down anything north of £5million - that’s peanuts to plenty of clubs even in the Championship.
You just have to watch the pre match shooting Shipleys shots are going in O'Hares are hit and miss...no pun intendedYou aren't reading what's said. Shipley can strike a ball better and shoot through it.
Even his goal this season is better than I have ever seen O'hare strike a ball, then there's his Luton free kick.
Again, no way am I saying Shipley is better. Just the shooting part.
You’d have to suggest, if we weren’t owned by such crooks, we would be able to get upwards of £8m for him and VikHe is above this division. Far too good.
He is above this division. Far too good.
He's worth more than £8mYou’d have to suggest, if we weren’t owned by such crooks, we would be able to get upwards of £8m for him and Vik
Being worth £8m and our owners getting £8m is a totally different storyHe's worth more than £8m
He's worth more than £8m
Being worth £8m and our owners getting £8m is a totally different story
We did not get £4m for McCallum, that’s utter fantasyWhat does that even mean? A player is only worth what another club is willing to bid for them. The club can choose to accept it or they don't. I'm not sure there are many examples of the club selling on the cheap.
The last big player sales of note were 3 years ago. We got £4 million for McCallum and £2 million for Bayliss. I'd say the club played an absolute blinder tbf.
What does that even mean? A player is only worth what another club is willing to bid for them. The club can choose to accept it or they don't. I'm not sure there are many examples of the club selling on the cheap.
The last big player sales of note were 3 years ago. We got £4 million for McCallum and £2 million for Bayliss. I'd say the club played an absolute blinder tbf.
We did not get £4m for McCallum, that’s utter fantasy
We did not get £4m for McCallum, that’s utter fantasy
Sorry, you're right I've just checked, it was £3.74 million.
Clarke Harris was given away. Anyway we are now in a league which transfers operate very differently
I suspect it was more than that...it was nowhere near that it was about £750 upfront and staged payments which won’t yet have totalled that
it was nowhere near that it was about £750 upfront and staged payments which won’t yet have totalled that
He’s exactly right. You can’t be that simple to think that Norwich paid us £3.75m in cash straight away can you?Nonsense, stop making stuff up.
He’s exactly right. You can’t be that simple to think that Norwich paid us £3.75m in cash straight away can you?
Id suspect it hasn’t, he’s played 1 game for themNo, I know how transfers work, just like if someone pays us £8 million for Gyok, the payements would be phased, and there may also be add ons and conditions. That's how ALL transfers work.
It doesn't escape the fact the deal for McCallum was worth up to £4 million, widely reported in the Norwich media as a £3.5 million transfer fee + add ons. I suspect the transfer fee has been fulfilled now.
They'd have paid more up front than he claimsHe’s exactly right. You can’t be that simple to think that Norwich paid us £3.75m in cash straight away can you?
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