Nick
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This is exactly the point I am making. When you point something out as being an issue with O'Hare, you get this over and over.
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This is exactly the point I am making. When you point something out as being an issue with O'Hare, you get this over and over.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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To be fair you've been quick to claim he's been amazing.
Got this on your spreadsheet?
Match Thread - Huddersfield away
That's a league 1 team right there. Expecting a hiding today. Roll on January
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Saying O'Hare looked on it when he'd had about two touches.
I don’t think it gets swept under the rug I tends to be in many posts whatever the heading.
Grendel
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To be fair you've been quick to claim he's been amazing.
Got this on your spreadsheet?
Match Thread - Huddersfield away
That's a league 1 team right there. Expecting a hiding today. Roll on January
Saying O'Hare looked on it when he'd had about two touches.
he’s our most influential player and one of the most we’ve had in decades. That’s it really
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Maybe.
But you were disputing the claim that you didn't fawn over him, creating responses that were a bit overly critical. I've just shown you have claimed he's been playing well when the reality didn't match that.
Nick
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No he isn't.
Grendel
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who is then
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steve cooper
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Denis Wise was 39 when he joined us, on the face of could have been a disaster, particularly as he had only played 11 games the previous season. More luck than judgement I would say.
Nick
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Didn't say anything about scouting or luck. Just he was much more influential for us.
SheafIsGod
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Sorry but even if he was consistently scoring 10 goals a season he would still be here. He’s not good enough for the Premier League.
If it was just his finishing that’s stopping him being an “adequate” Premier League midfielder then I think clubs would take a punt on him for £5mil (a drop in the ocean to them) and get top finishing coaches working with him. But it won’t happen - I’d be surprised if any clubs came in for him (although I sincerely hope I’m wrong). Whereas I fully expect there to be interest in Hamer & Sheaf in the summer.
Oppositions fans single him out because they see a little player playing with his heart on his sleeve, running around lots and getting stuck in. They aren’t aware of how poor his goal contributions are. They aren’t aware how much he lacks composure. They aren’t aware of how bad his shooting and final ball is. Don’t you think if he was as good as people made out on here a higher-budget Championship club would be in for him? Let’s face it, we’re not turning down anything north of £5million - that’s peanuts to plenty of clubs even in the Championship.
If it was just his finishing that’s stopping him being an “adequate” Premier League midfielder then I think clubs would take a punt on him for £5mil (a drop in the ocean to them) and get top finishing coaches working with him. But it won’t happen - I’d be surprised if any clubs came in for him (although I sincerely hope I’m wrong). Whereas I fully expect there to be interest in Hamer & Sheaf in the summer.
Oppositions fans single him out because they see a little player playing with his heart on his sleeve, running around lots and getting stuck in. They aren’t aware of how poor his goal contributions are. They aren’t aware how much he lacks composure. They aren’t aware of how bad his shooting and final ball is. Don’t you think if he was as good as people made out on here a higher-budget Championship club would be in for him? Let’s face it, we’re not turning down anything north of £5million - that’s peanuts to plenty of clubs even in the Championship.
skybluegod
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So, championship clubs don't have any clue how poor his goal contributions are despite having been able to watch/scout O'Hare all season and having access to better statistical data? But they see someone running around so they think they need to foul him/double up? That must make Allen an even bigger threat for teams.
But ah yes all those famous 'top finishing coaches' that's exactly what a team would do if it was his only issue.
stevefloyd
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You just have to watch the pre match shooting Shipleys shots are going in O'Hares are hit and miss...no pun intended
Ccfcisparks
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You’d have to suggest, if we weren’t owned by such crooks, we would be able to get upwards of £8m for him and Vik
SlowerThanPlatt
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Ultimately it’s consistency like the rest of them and why until then they’ll be Championship players
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pusbccfc
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He's worth more than £8m
Ccfcisparks
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Being worth £8m and our owners getting £8m is a totally different story
Grendel
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he can’t kick a ball properly?
What does that even mean? A player is only worth what another club is willing to bid for them. The club can choose to accept it or they don't. I'm not sure there are many examples of the club selling on the cheap.
The last big player sales of note were 3 years ago. We got £4 million for McCallum and £2 million for Bayliss. I'd say the club played an absolute blinder tbf.
Ccfcisparks
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We did not get £4m for McCallum, that’s utter fantasy
Grendel
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Clarke Harris was given away. Anyway we are now in a league which transfers operate very differently
Sorry, you're right I've just checked, it was £3.74 million.
SlowerThanPlatt
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It was £2m upfront I think with add ons, given he’s played one League Cup game I doubt any have been met
Grendel
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it was nowhere near that it was about £750 upfront and staged payments which won’t yet have totalled that
And we're yet to sell a player of note at this level, so let's see what happens when we do. The last 2 departures were 3 years ago and were great business were they not?
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I suspect it was more than that...
Nonsense, stop making stuff up.
SkyBlueMatt
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Another shithouse thread about O'Hare, thats what we need.
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Ccfcisparks
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He’s exactly right. You can’t be that simple to think that Norwich paid us £3.75m in cash straight away can you?
No, I know how transfers work, just like if someone pays us £8 million for Gyok, the payements would be phased, and there may also be add ons and conditions. That's how ALL transfers work.
It doesn't escape the fact the deal for McCallum was worth up to £4 million, widely reported in the Norwich media as a £3.5 million transfer fee + add ons. I suspect the transfer fee has been fulfilled now.
Ccfcisparks
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Id suspect it hasn’t, he’s played 1 game for them
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They'd have paid more up front than he claims