Find me clubs in league one who have spent fees since last January? We have
All frees, loans or using the wage budget! £500,000 spent on actual transfers for good decent players (our players) would have given us quality and a boost within the squad
All frees, loans or using the wage budget! £500,000 spent on actual transfers for good decent players (our players) would have given us quality and a boost within the squad
My worry is should TM go we will have that con man prick Chris Anderson picking the next manager !
Find me clubs in league one who have spent fees since last January? We have
Well he isn't a league one manager at all is he and that's the problem. I always remember Wenger once saying if you manage Coventry you struggle as they have no money.
Mowbray cannot adapt to lack of budget and cannot adapt to a life of compromise, cheap and free signings and moulding a team around what you can get.
He's not in any way a bang average league 1 manager - he's like a waitrose shopper pitching up at Aldi and asking the shop assistant "where is the mange tous" and being shown the frozen peas section.
It's not missing the point is it?You're missing the point! We were top at Xmas. If SISU wanted us to go up they would have invested for long term gain...they won't ever get a better opportunity than last year
Exactly, people refuse to accept where we are.tbf, this is the one argument I can buy into.
In a general sense, it's undeniable that the club's the problem, a every manager failing can't be anything other than the tools they're given. It's also the club's responsibility who they appoint.
That being said... Mowbray was Waggot's choice, and now Waggot's gone there's a certain logic in allowing Anderson the responsibility to pick his choice. I do tend to agree that in many ways we picked the wrong type of manager in terms of someone on their way down, who'd never had to have a grounding at this level and, in many ways, this is the CCFC issue - we need to stop thinking we're a big club, and accept where we are. Once we do that... we can start planning how to become a bigger club again.
It's not missing the point is it?
You're missing the point! We were top at Xmas. If SISU wanted us to go up they would have invested for long term gain...they won't ever get a better opportunity than last year
Well he isn't a league one manager at all is he and that's the problem. I always remember Wenger once saying if you manage Coventry you struggle as they have no money.
Mowbray cannot adapt to lack of budget and cannot adapt to a life of compromise, cheap and free signings and moulding a team around what you can get.
He's not in any way a bang average league 1 manager - he's like a waitrose shopper pitching up at Aldi and asking the shop assistant "where is the mange tous" and being shown the frozen peas section.
It was forcing the team around Cole for example.We signed 8 players!!!! Was it sisu's fault that Mowbray continually rotated the team until they seemingly forgot what team actually got us to the top.
It was forcing the team around Cole for example.
We signed 8 players!!!! Was it sisu's fault that Mowbray continually rotated the team until they seemingly forgot what team actually got us to the top.
8 below par players on frees and loans? Jones was bought in May having come to us at the end of March (as was Vlad) - season was over by the time we'd spent money. Invest whilst you're ahead - basic business sense really. You think we'll get a better opportunity to go up like we had last January then?
tbf, this is the one argument I can buy into.
In a general sense, it's undeniable that the club's the problem, as every manager failing can't be anything other than the tools they're given. It's also the club's responsibility who they appoint.
That being said... Mowbray was Waggot's choice, and now Waggot's gone there's a certain logic in allowing Anderson the responsibility to pick his choice. I do tend to agree that in many ways we picked the wrong type of manager in terms of someone on their way down, who'd never had to have a grounding at this level and, in many ways, this is the CCFC issue - we need to stop thinking we're a big club, and accept where we are. Once we do that... we can start planning how to become a bigger club again.
I very much doubt there is anyone out there who can do any better.
I'm sick of sacking managers and repeating the cycle every 18 months, it gets us nowhere. Give TM a few years.
Also, don't forget how brilliant we were in the first half of last season. It's all very well saying how bad the second half was, but you can't mention that without taking into account how good the first half was.
Wasn't it frees and loans that got us top?8 below par players on frees and loans? Jones was bought in May having come to us at the end of March (as was Vlad) - season was over by the time we'd spent money. Invest whilst you're ahead - basic business sense really. You think we'll get a better opportunity to go up like we had last January then?
Wasn't it frees and loans that got us top?
Like lorenzton and rose he brought in?Wasn't it TM that said we need our own players?
I accept where we are,do I accept we should always be here? No. Do I accept that I cant do anything to influence it? Yes. Do I accept that things will probably get worse? Yes.Exactly, people refuse to accept where we are.
Wasn't it frees and loans that got us top?
Like lorenzton and rose he brought in?
so you advocate that you just stand still then and don't invest? It was always obvious that the kids would burn out and need replacing come the winter - TM said so himself before the slump.
Yes, and he brought in loads of players to battle it.so you advocate that you just stand still then and don't invest? It was always obvious that the kids would burn out and need replacing come the winter - TM said so himself before the slump.
The kids didn't burn out. Mowbray stopped playing the kids that got us top and started playing all the OAP's that he signed.
because they were tired and not performing...jeez!
Because after 15 managers, 20 new board members, 8 years of the same shit, BS stats on fees paid "we bought tommy tit for 50,000" but sold Wilson, Maddison and Clarke combined for 4mill that's without Cyrus Compo and Sambou 1mill. If you change the manager fine, the common dominator is still pulling the strings.
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Lower expectations? We are bottom of division 3
Two things would need to be in place before that could happen.
1) SISU would need to know what they're doing enough to do that.
2) SISU would have to want us to be a big club again.
Can't say I've seen anything of the first one ever and nothing of the second one since they threw the towel in on operation premier league.
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