Find me clubs in league one who have spent fees since last January? We have
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Find me clubs in league one who have spent fees since last January? We have
Grendel
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Only 6 clubs have signed players for fees and we are one of those clubs.
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Thought you'd be relieved it's not Waggot anymore.
TheFACTs
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You're missing the point! We were top at Xmas. If SISU wanted us to go up they would have invested for long term gain...they won't ever get a better opportunity than last year
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tbf, this is the one argument I can buy into.
In a general sense, it's undeniable that the club's the problem, as every manager failing can't be anything other than the tools they're given. It's also the club's responsibility who they appoint.
That being said... Mowbray was Waggot's choice, and now Waggot's gone there's a certain logic in allowing Anderson the responsibility to pick his choice. I do tend to agree that in many ways we picked the wrong type of manager in terms of someone on their way down, who'd never had to have a grounding at this level and, in many ways, this is the CCFC issue - we need to stop thinking we're a big club, and accept where we are. Once we do that... we can start planning how to become a bigger club again.
Nick
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It's not missing the point is it?
Nick
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Exactly, people refuse to accept where we are.
TheFACTs
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yes it is...cheers
We signed 8 players!!!! Was it sisu's fault that Mowbray continually rotated the team until they seemingly forgot what team actually got us to the top.
skybluetony176
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That being the case why were you using his appointment to polish SISU's knob and getting angry with anyone who dared to say he was anything other than a coup?
Nick
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It was forcing the team around Cole for example.
Precisely, playing Maddison on the wing, and refusing to play lamerais. Letting jim O'Brien go out on loan (all 3 of those started the first 2 games in which we were outstanding and never got picked in the same team again) and continuing with Murphy who was obviously suffering at times.
TheFACTs
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8 below par players on frees and loans? Jones was bought in May having come to us at the end of March (as was Vlad) - season was over by the time we'd spent money. Invest whilst you're ahead - basic business sense really. You think we'll get a better opportunity to go up like we had last January then?
Why is it sisu's fault the players were below par? That's Mowbray who signed them. No we won't get a better chance and we should've sacked Mowbray then in hindsight. Was the third time he didn't get promoted after being top mid season.
skybluetony176
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Two things would need to be in place before that could happen.
1) SISU would need to know what they're doing enough to do that.
2) SISU would have to want us to be a big club again.
Can't say I've seen anything of the first one ever and nothing of the second one since they threw the towel in on operation premier league.
Sky Blue Kid
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Nick
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Wasn't it frees and loans that got us top?
Sky Blue Kid
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Wasn't it TM that said we need our own players?
Nick
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Like lorenzton and rose he brought in?
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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I accept where we are,do I accept we should always be here? No. Do I accept that I cant do anything to influence it? Yes. Do I accept that things will probably get worse? Yes.
Does it matter whether I accept it or not? No so it's easier to accept it
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TheFACTs
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so you advocate that you just stand still then and don't invest? It was always obvious that the kids would burn out and need replacing come the winter - TM said so himself before the slump.
Sky Blue Kid
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Then brought in all those loans:facepalm:
stay_up_skyblues
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Can't get on board with the manager out philosophy this early, Groundhog Day and done us no good in the past.
That said, TM does have questions to answer for me. The formation looks like something you put together on football manager when you've had a few and I don't recall any team really being successful playing that set up. It also does not suit the players he has brought in. 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 please.
That said, TM does have questions to answer for me. The formation looks like something you put together on football manager when you've had a few and I don't recall any team really being successful playing that set up. It also does not suit the players he has brought in. 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 please.
The kids didn't burn out. Mowbray stopped playing the kids that got us top and started playing all the OAP's that he signed.
Nick
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Yes, and he brought in loads of players to battle it.
I could understand if he wasn't allowed to bring in a single player.
Because after 15 managers, 20 new board members, 8 years of the same shit, BS stats on fees paid "we bought tommy tit for 50,000" but sold Wilson, Maddison and Clarke combined for 4mill that's without Cyrus Compo and Sambou 1mill. If you change the manager fine, the common dominator is still pulling the strings.
Is like curing a headache when you have cancer, it makes no difference to the serious issue, which is the state of the club. As fans we need to lower our expectations and maybe understand Merlin in the managers seat would find it hard. If you do the same things over and over again expecting a different outcome your an idiot that's what is again about to happen. But Don't worry TF will come out and tell us the club had to do it and we will get the club facing the right direction with the right man in charge!!!!!!! the right man in charge should be new owners, change of manager changes fook all only a 10 game bump.
Is like curing a headache when you have cancer, it makes no difference to the serious issue, which is the state of the club. As fans we need to lower our expectations and maybe understand Merlin in the managers seat would find it hard. If you do the same things over and over again expecting a different outcome your an idiot that's what is again about to happen. But Don't worry TF will come out and tell us the club had to do it and we will get the club facing the right direction with the right man in charge!!!!!!! the right man in charge should be new owners, change of manager changes fook all only a 10 game bump.
TheFACTs
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because they were tired and not performing...jeez!
When did they stop performing? O'Brien wasn't a kid but Mowbray decided he was surplus. Lamerais barely got a game. Armstrong didn't burn out his service did. What other kids were relied upon heavily other than Murphy who Mowbray could've replaced with O'Brien or
Lamerais
TheFACTs
Active Member
This!!! Either lower your expectations as fans or hope for a change of owners soon - sacking the manager will not change anything even if he does need to ask himself some questions
TheFACTs
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do you think SISU care?
