Grendel
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The idea they'd turn down promotion is absurd.
If one believes the guff that's £5 million extra straight into Joys purse.
They don't give a shit, they run within budget and will change faces whenever they need more time, L1 fits the business model.
The idea they'd turn down promotion is absurd.
If one believes the guff that's £5 million extra straight into Joys purse.
Well he isn't a league one manager at all is he and that's the problem. I always remember Wenger once saying if you manage Coventry you struggle as they have no money.
Mowbray cannot adapt to lack of budget and cannot adapt to a life of compromise, cheap and free signings and moulding a team around what you can get.
He's not in any way a bang average league 1 manager - he's like a waitrose shopper pitching up at Aldi and asking the shop assistant "where is the mange tous" and being shown the frozen peas section.
Sisu would like us to be a big club but don't have any idea how to do it.
I really don't believe they do. There's no way we could be cost neutral and achieve it. It's as simple as that. The football is a distraction for them and if they can sit the likes of TF and CA in the club ticking it over at cost neutral that will be good enough for them and league position or league for that matter don't matter to them. Sure they'd take a promotion but it would be by accident not design and equally if we dropped down a league they wouldn't batter an eyelid past releasing some statement from Joy saying she has battered an eyelid before disappearing again.
look at Villa they spend about five years of our budget on the transfer fee of one player
Not a F***ING CAT IN HELL'S CHANCE . :rage:do you think SISU care?
I really don't believe they do. There's no way we could be cost neutral and achieve it. It's as simple as that. The football is a distraction for them and if they can sit the likes of TF and CA in the club ticking it over at cost neutral that will be good enough for them and league position or league for that matter don't matter to them. Sure they'd take a promotion but it would be by accident not design and equally if we dropped down a league they wouldn't batter an eyelid past releasing some statement from Joy saying she has battered an eyelid before disappearing again.
The idea they'd turn down promotion is absurd.
If one believes the guff that's £5 million extra straight into Joys purse.[/QUOTe
It really is pointless with you Gren, you know and I know JS struggles turning down offers for players never mind 5 mill for promotion. What we are polar opposite on is the fact you think Promotion is an aim of this club and owners. They have no idea, no ambition or no desire to handle the extra investment they would have to make on top of the so called 5mill they need.
FFS they are not interested in that, championship football doesn't come like a wet dream to them, its comes with every fear they had when they were stable finishing 15-17th every year. You need to look at the tenure and the facts of when has a first team squad improved and when did we ever have a summer when 1 or a few players left for decent money only to have same budget or a small undisclosed fee paid. Honestly a smaller club with a plan to gain promotion and to progress can do it, if they have the plan and desire in place.
If this plan or desire is at our club I haven't seen it yet or even thought that's in the realm's of possibility.
He isn't if managers with smaller budgets can beat him....It's not the manager
It's the fact that sisu won't invest
Only my opinion but Mowbray is the best manager in the league
It's not the manager
It's the fact that sisu won't invest
Only my opinion but Mowbray is the best manager in the league
Some real crackpot stuff doing the rounds tonight. The notion that SISU are deliberately trying to avoid promotion is absurd. It is completely devoid of logic. Our budget is bigger than most sides in this division, and what they want is for the club to achieve that goal without the need for a cash injection, by letting the club be self-sufficient and operate within its means. Will it happen? Well, no, it clearly isn't working, but it isn't part of a hidden agenda - other wise why chuck £200K at Jones? SISU may be an odious bunch of fucktards, but even they realise their only viable exit would come on the back of a promotion - they are just unwilling or unable to inject cash to make that happen.
Clubs with smaller budgets than ourselves has achieved promotion from this league - it will probably happen again this season. Genuinely don't understand why as a club it never seems to come together and we're destined to forever look at Burton Albion and others, shake our heads and wonder how the fuck they do it.
Some real crackpot stuff doing the rounds tonight. The notion that SISU are deliberately trying to avoid promotion is absurd. It is completely devoid of logic. Our budget is bigger than most sides in this division, and what they want is for the club to achieve that goal without the need for a cash injection, by letting the club be self-sufficient and operate within its means. Will it happen? Well, no, it clearly isn't working, but it isn't part of a hidden agenda - other wise why chuck £200K at Jones? SISU may be an odious bunch of fucktards, but even they realise their only viable exit would come on the back of a promotion - they are just unwilling or unable to inject cash to make that happen.
Clubs with smaller budgets than ourselves has achieved promotion from this league - it will probably happen again this season. Genuinely don't understand why as a club it never seems to come together and we're destined to forever look at Burton Albion and others, shake our heads and wonder how the fuck they do it.
Why? He's got an easy jobIt's some money and a new team we need not a new manager. Feel really sorry for the guy tbh.
Why? He's got an easy job
Because if he loses its never his faultwhy is it easy ?
Because if he loses its never his fault
TM is seriously on borrowed time. If we don't get at least 3 points from the next 2 games, he needs to go.
We had an awful back end of last season and dropped like a stone from November. We lived of Armas goals which peppered over an otherwise average season. The first three months of last season were great...the best in years but for the last 4 months of last season and the first month of this season, our form has been poor.
I'm not bothered if anyone wants to shout me down as I've been unable to get to any games so far this season but it's a results business....we've not won in 6 league games and only scored 2 goals.
Yes, SISU are culpable and yes, we lost some good players in the summer (not necessarily SISU or TMs fault) but he's bought in players, spent money and we're still in the bottom two.
If we get nothing from the next two games, he has to go. Many people on here have previously seen him as the messiah and many will stick by him. For me, many managers have been sacked for runs no where near as bad as ours....
I'm off the the driving range to smack the shit out of 100 golf balls...
WM
The only two tactics we haven't tried in the last 9 years is..........
changing owners
Or
Sticking with a manager for 4-5 years
I genuinely think because we are living off scraps
We need to allow a manger to install his ethos and playing style at every level of the club.
Allow the kids and young signings to develop then finally we will get our rewards.
Constantly chopping and changing is screwing us
On a seperate note when do we get compo for sambou?
Out of interest Nick,.do you want Tony Mowbray sacked?We aren't living off scraps, we are in league one.
It's almost as if every other league one club has massive transfer budgets and wage bills apart from us.
Out of interest Nick,.do you want Tony Mowbray sacked?
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Nick but just maybe whoever may come in may have some people skills and be able to actually enthuse and motivate the team we already have? Also we would hope any new manager would be able to teamtalk and instil a tactical gameplan, also a new manager would use substitutes wisely instead of old compulsary 3 subs a game every game Mowbray, for instance Mcann our most promising midfielder goes of so what does our Mowbray do......bring on Tudgay a forward???? Doesn't make sense does itAs i have said a couple of times, I like what he is trying to do with Jones and Turnbull etc. I think it would be pointless sacking him now as somebody needs to come in and has no chance to get their own players. I just think more questions need to be asked of him, rather than all of the "it isnt his fault, his hands are tied stuff".
Yes but it was a striker for a creative midfielder, id of preferred Rueben or ReidMcCann was injured wasn't he? So he brought Tudgay on and moved Gadzev back.
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