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[letsallsingtogether]

So you believe that giving in to sisu's every whim will put us in a strong position your right not very intelligent are you? and who brought the the 10 point deduction into the argument?
just typical of you putting words into peoples mouths and splitting fans.

Not all of us no. Some have intelligence to see the club needs to retain its strongest position possible in the current dire situation. To want a 10 point reduction to spite the owners is as stupid as it gets.

 

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[Grendel]

Well I think your oversimplifying things there.

No one wants a 10 point deduction, however many of us want the FL to uphold the conditions agreed by Otium when the FL transferred the GS to them. This will be a reassurance that the FL have it in them to stand up to Sisu, and ensure that they will take action against them should they fail to comply with the time limit of returning to Coventry.

Surely you want the FL to be heavy handed with sisu as much as the rest of us?

I don't want ACL paid twice. I would be happy (well not happy but) if the account paid £300,000 back to Mcginnity and Robinson.

 

[Grendel]

If the club / team don't get a penalty (points etc) and don't have to pay it then will people actually be outraged?

YES.

 

[bigfatronssba]

I don't want ACL paid twice. I would be happy (well not happy but) if the account paid £300,000 back to Mcginnity and Robinson.

Well apart from the fact the payments are for two different things, what difference does it make if ACL are paid twice? Otium have budgeted for the payment, so I don't see the issue.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

SO was I right Who started talking about the 10 point penalty
I replied with the sort of sarcastic response it deserved.

Sorry have to go Ribbons need tying......

 

[RoboCCFC90]

Sorry have to go Ribbons need tying......

Need a hand with that?


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[letsallsingtogether]

Sorry mate didn't see your reply it was a quick in and out then again always is these days.

Need a hand with that?


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[letsallsingtogether]

Is that why you hate Coventry so much.

Sorry to upset you but I love every thing Coventry not just the Football team.

So I am ignorant because I have a passion for the place I was born and live in and never had the desire to leave.....


Suppose I am stupid for feeling that way but hey I am still proud of my city.

Ignorance?

 

[Hobo]

No they have fulfilled their legal obligation and paid in an account that the Football League can distribute from. I suspect they have advised ACL that the £590,000 in full is not now due -- it is the only conclusion I can draw from the latest strange communications.

1) Why hasn't it been paid then?
2) Why did Fisher say a substantial amount had been paid into the account and not the full amount?
3) If it is there for the FL to administer and distribute fairly why are SISU worrying about a double payment?

I note you suspect ACL have been told the full amount is not due? Could it not equally be possible SISU have been told pay the full amount into the account by the FL so they can administer the funds correctly to the relevant parties, some might be due a refund? The FL might have said if this isn't done by our August Meeting you risk being docked points! Remember it was listed for discussion at the last FL meeting.

 

[kmj5000]

No they have fulfilled their legal obligation and paid in an account that the Football League can distribute from. I suspect they have advised ACL that the £590,000 in full is not now due -- it is the only conclusion I can draw from the latest strange communications.

The only sensible conclusion that can be drawn is that the FL have informed SISU that the £590k is due and therefore ordered them to pay the full amount into the Escrow account, you twat!

 

[Grendel]

The only sensible conclusion that can be drawn is that the FL have informed SISU that the £590k is due and therefore ordered them to pay the full amount into the Escrow account, you twat!

Simon Gilbert's article quoted the football league as saying the £590,000 is in the Escrow account....

 

[RoboCCFC90]

Simon Gilbert's article quoted the football league as saying the £590,000 is in the Escrow account....

Not just the Football League Statement, the below was from he statement by Joy Seppala and Tim Fisher.

In a statement earlier today, the Football League said the most immediate need is to 'concentrate on the more pressing issue of getting the club back to the Coventry area within the prescribed timeframe' as well as acknowledging 'the club has placed the full sum of £590,000 into an escrow account pending the outcome' of the Football League board’s deliberations. We completely agree and want to play our part to make this happen.

So the Club has done it, there is nothing more to say other than the matter is now in the hands of the Football League and you hope - in the hope of a quick Ricoh Arena return being negotiated/agreed - that the Football League rule that ACL are due the full payment.

It might not look correct, but it opens the door to discussions as both parties have met the criteria they set themselves.


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[martcov]

Not just the Football League Statement, the below was from he statement by Joy Seppala and Tim Fisher.



So the Club has done it, there is nothing more to say other than the matter is now in the hands of the Football League and you hope - in the hope of a quick Ricoh Arena return being negotiated/agreed - that the Football League rule that ACL are due the full payment.

It might not look correct, but it opens the door to discussions as both parties have met the criteria they set themselves.


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The sooner all rulings are out of the way, binding and final, the better. I hope SISU have to pay the agreed amount - it seems fair ( if they agreed to it at the time ). I also hope that the JR appeal is not allowed. Only when these distractions are out of the way, can we draw a line and then start afresh - assuming the parties want this to happen.

 

[RoboCCFC90]

The sooner all rulings are out of the way, binding and final, the better. I hope SISU have to pay the agreed amount - it seems fair ( if they agreed to it at the time ). I also hope that the JR appeal is not allowed. Only when these distractions are out of the way, can we draw a line and then start afresh - assuming the parties want this to happen.

I think the Football League will decide that the entire £590,000 sum will need paying to ACL. I think it's fair as it was agreed to at the time.

It seems like ACL want the Club to jump through hoops to sort this out, firstly the payment of £590,000 and then drop the JR Appeal, maybe they should just start negotiations and negotiate a fair deal with the Club, who knows that in itself maybe enough for Sisu to drop the appeal?


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[shmmeee]

I think the Football League will decide that the entire £590,000 sum will need paying to ACL. I think it's fair as it was agreed to at the time.

It seems like ACL want the Club to jump through hoops to sort this out, firstly the payment of £590,000 and then drop the JR Appeal, maybe they should just start negotiations and negotiate a fair deal with the Club, who knows that in itself maybe enough for Sisu to drop the appeal?


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With all due respect Rob, that's not hoops, that's a bare minimum for genuine and open negotiations.

You simply don't enter into new business while the other party is trying to sue you and refusing to pay you money you're owed.

 

[RoboCCFC90]

With all due respect Rob, that's not hoops, that's a bare minimum for genuine and open negotiations.

You simply don't enter into new business while the other party is trying to sue you and refusing to pay you money you're owed.

They've not refused to pay monies owed though? That matter is in the control of the Football League, with respect to the JR Appeal, I guess your right, but if I was ACL I would say we can give you X Matchday revenues, for Y, but apart of that deal includes you dropping the JR Appeal.


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[kmj5000]

Simon Gilbert's article quoted the football league as saying the £590,000 is in the Escrow account....

Yes ...and your point is?

 

[shmmeee]

Yes ...and your point is?

I think the point is, we should all be pissed off with the FL over this, rather than Sisu. I think it's a valid one.

 

[shmmeee]

They've not refused to pay monies owed though? That matter is in the control of the Football League, with respect to the JR Appeal, I guess your right, but if I was ACL I would say we can give you X Matchday revenues, for Y, but apart of that deal includes you dropping the JR Appeal.


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Well, they've not paid them directly, and they're disputing the amount (which I'd give more credit if they didn't dispute absolutely everything). But you're right ACL could do more from our point of view. Problem is, as much as we want to believe everyone in the City should share our priorities, only the Club do in reality. Hence why when in a 50/50 I'll always blame the club for not doing more. In my eyes, the move to Sixfields is something that needs to be rectified outside of any long term revenue deals or new stadia as it was below the belt and never should have even been considered. Until that's sorted, IMO the onus is on the club to make the first move.