Injuries (1 Viewer)

Saddlebrains · Jul 25, 2023

So where do we stand at the mo?

Allen - 3 weeks behind the others, by all accounts hes over the pericarditis thank god, so you would say maybe a place on the bench v leicester?
DaSilva - a knock wasnt it? Will miss tonight but meant to be available Saturday so should be no worries for the first game
O'Hare - back on the grass mid August apparently so October return?
Tavares - Not a clue anyone know?

Ccfcisparks · Jul 25, 2023

Saddlebrains said:
So where do we stand at the mo?

Allen - 3 weeks behind the others, by all accounts hes over the pericarditis thank god, so you would say maybe a place on the bench v leicester?
DaSilva - a knock wasnt it? Will miss tonight but meant to be available Saturday so should be no worries for the first game
O'Hare - back on the grass mid August apparently so October return?
Tavares - Not a clue anyone know?

Would imagine DaSilva and Allen will both be fine for Leicester.

Deity · Jul 25, 2023

Ccfcisparks said:
Would imagine DaSilva and Allen will both be fine for Leicester.

I can’t see Allen being fine for any fixture in August.

Ccfcisparks · Jul 25, 2023

Deity said:
I can’t see Allen being fine for any fixture in August.

Really? He's only missed out on a couple weeks training and 2 games.

PVA · Jul 25, 2023

I guess with Allen it just depends on what recovery period is needed after his illness.

e.g. he maybe under doctors orders to take it relatively easy for 4/6 weeks or something.

If he's been given the all clear to carry on as normal then you'd imagine he'd be OK for a spot on the bench soon, as he seems naturally a very fit bloke.

That being said, I expect him to feature a bit less this season anyway.

Sick Boy · Jul 25, 2023

PVA said:
I guess with Allen it just depends on what recovery period is needed after his illness.

e.g. he maybe under doctors orders to take it relatively easy for 4/6 weeks or something.

If he's been given the all clear to carry on as normal then you'd imagine he'd be OK for a spot on the bench soon, as he seems naturally a very fit bloke.

That being said, I expect him to feature a bit less this season anyway.

He’ll be an important player again this season; Robins clearly rates him and has said several times how important he is to our play overall.

PVA · Jul 25, 2023

Sick Boy said:
He’ll be an important player again this season; Robins clearly rates him and has said several times how important he is to our play overall.

Yes but I'd expect him to be behind Hamer, Sheaf and Eccles in midfield and O'Hare (when fit), Sakamoto and Palmer at AM, so like I say I don't expect him to play as much as he did last season.

He'll certainly get decent game time while O'Hare remains out.

It's not a criticism, just how I see it playing out.

Sick Boy · Jul 25, 2023

PVA said:
Yes but I'd expect him to be behind Hamer, Sheaf and Eccles in midfield and O'Hare (when fit), Sakamoto and Palmer at AM, so like I say I don't expect him to play as much as he did last season.

He'll certainly get decent game time while O'Hare remains out.

It's not a criticism, just how I see it playing out.

I expect he’ll feature more than you think and he’ll play more games over the season than Palmer.

Grendel · Jul 25, 2023

Sick Boy said:
I expect he’ll feature more than you think and he’ll play more games over the season than Palmer.

Well he was ahead of him last season and offered a contract so in all likelihood he will again

Deleted member 9744 · Jul 25, 2023

PVA said:
Yes but I'd expect him to be behind Hamer, Sheaf and Eccles in midfield and O'Hare (when fit), Sakamoto and Palmer at AM, so like I say I don't expect him to play as much as he did last season.

He'll certainly get decent game time while O'Hare remains out.

It's not a criticism, just how I see it playing out.

Sakamoto is untested at this level and we don't really know how quickly or whether he will adjust and Palmer's fitness is always an issue. So I suspect unless we strengthen we will see plenty of Allen. I really hope we get a good AM on loan.

Should also say I am not convinced Sakamoto will play centrally. I incline to the Shmmeee theory.

PVA · Jul 25, 2023

Sick Boy said:
I expect he’ll feature more than you think and he’ll play more games over the season than Palmer.

Well it depends on Palmer's fitness. If, and it is a big if, he can stay fit then he'll play more than Allen.

But Allen seems to be incredibly durable which is a big plus point and so yes he will get decent game time.

I said he will feature a 'bit less', I didn't say he will be limited to a few appearances here and there

AFCCOVENTRY · Jul 25, 2023

I don’t see Allen being back so soon. I may be wrong but they will have to bring him back carefully in a controlled manner.

shmmeee · Jul 25, 2023

Sick Boy said:
I expect he’ll feature more than you think and he’ll play more games over the season than Palmer.

God I hope not, we need much better in that position.

covcity4life · Jul 25, 2023

shmmeee said:
God I hope not, we need much better in that position.

He just wanted a like from his alpha

Sick Boy · Jul 25, 2023

covcity4life said:
He just wanted a like from his alpha

Happily take you up on a traditional charity bet if you really think Palmer will play more minutes than Allen this season.

shmmeee · Jul 25, 2023

Sick Boy said:
Happily take you up on a traditional charity bet if you really think Palmer will play more minutes than Allen this season.

Ill charity bet you he scores more goals per minute.

Sick Boy · Jul 25, 2023

shmmeee said:
Ill charity bet you he scores more goals per minute.

No thanks, trying not to get carried away on the old charity bets again this season!

Grendel · Jul 25, 2023

Sick Boy said:
No thanks, trying not to get carried away on the old charity bets again this season!

Pretty random bet that anyway - in league two you’d have lost if you’d had McNulty and won if you had Ponticelli

shmmeee · Jul 25, 2023

Sick Boy said:
No thanks, trying not to get carried away on the old charity bets again this season!

Coward

shmmeee · Jul 25, 2023

Grendel said:
Pretty random bet that anyway - in league two you’d have lost if you’d had McNulty and won if you had Ponticelli

Makes sense for an injury prone player. No fun having a minutes bet when one player is out half the season.

covcity4life · Jul 25, 2023

Sick Boy said:
Happily take you up on a traditional charity bet if you really think Palmer will play more minutes than Allen this season.

Ah ok your saying he only gets ahead of Palmer if Palmer injured. That's different then

larry_david · Jul 25, 2023

Wilson injured, back spasm. Back for end of the week

Hobo · Jul 25, 2023

Saddlebrains said:
So where do we stand at the mo?

Allen - 3 weeks behind the others, by all accounts hes over the pericarditis thank god, so you would say maybe a place on the bench v leicester?
DaSilva - a knock wasnt it? Will miss tonight but meant to be available Saturday so should be no worries for the first game
O'Hare - back on the grass mid August apparently so October return?
Tavares - Not a clue anyone know?

O'Hare won't be back in contention in October, nearer Christmas.

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Jul 25, 2023

Ccfcisparks said:
Really? He's only missed out on a couple weeks training and 2 games.

With a condition that can be extremely painful and is exacerbated by exercise. He'll be being monitored very carefully and I would be amazed if they throw him into full training that quickly.

SBbucks · Jul 25, 2023

Saddlebrains said:
So where do we stand at the mo?

Allen - 3 weeks behind the others, by all accounts hes over the pericarditis thank god, so you would say maybe a place on the bench v leicester?
DaSilva - a knock wasnt it? Will miss tonight but meant to be available Saturday so should be no worries for the first game
O'Hare - back on the grass mid August apparently so October return?
Tavares - Not a clue anyone know?

Not a cat in hells chance of Allen being on the bench for Leicester or probably anytime in August. Pericarditis can be debilitating and recovery needs careful management.

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Saddlebrains · Aug 5, 2023

Allens being targeted to return to the squad for Swansea

O'Hare is way ahead of schedule. Dont be surprised to see some photos of him 'on the grass' in the near future

Ccfcisparks · Aug 5, 2023

Saddlebrains said:
Allens being targeted to return to the squad for Swansea

O'Hare is way ahead of schedule. Dont be surprised to see some photos of him 'on the grass' in the near future

Not surprised. That lad is a machine. Remember in lockdown he was running 5k's in about 15 minutes.

SkyBlueSam01 · Aug 5, 2023

Saddlebrains said:
Allens being targeted to return to the squad for Swansea

O'Hare is way ahead of schedule. Dont be surprised to see some photos of him 'on the grass' in the near future

Great news but you have to be so careful with ACLs...

He may be ahead of schedule in his rehab but the actual graft can only bed in properly with time (general consensus 9-12 months minimum)

Glad to hear Allen is on his way too

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT · Aug 5, 2023

Ccfcisparks said:
Not surprised. That lad is a machine. Remember in lockdown he was running 5k's in about 15 minutes.

Robinshio · Aug 5, 2023

SkyBlueSam01 said:
Great news but you have to be so careful with ACLs...

He may be ahead of schedule in his rehab but the actual graft can only bed in properly with time (general consensus 9-12 months minimum)

Glad to hear Allen is on his way too

O hare target is October at present to be eased back into the team

Old Warwickshire lad · Aug 5, 2023

Medical team will be all over it. Not only one of our best players,but a valuable asset.
Hope the kid comes back and bombs it, he deserves it.

rexo87 · Aug 5, 2023

Tbf 9 months is middle of September so could be only a month away really

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Chris1987 · Aug 5, 2023

SkyBlueSam01 said:
Great news but you have to be so careful with ACLs...

He may be ahead of schedule in his rehab but the actual graft can only bed in properly with time (general consensus 9-12 months minimum)

Glad to hear Allen is on his way too

I had an ACL reconstruction as a consequence of a football injury. The surgery isn't that bad ( muscle is taken from the thigh to construct a new ligament ) but the real issue is potential muscle wastage due to the initial bed rest. The physio is intense to say the least and the new ligament is only well and truly good to go once it has developed its own new blood vessels. This is why it takes so long to come back from an injury of this nature. It can also cause cartilage issues later on.

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 5, 2023

PVA said:
I guess with Allen it just depends on what recovery period is needed after his illness.

e.g. he maybe under doctors orders to take it relatively easy for 4/6 weeks or something.

If he's been given the all clear to carry on as normal then you'd imagine he'd be OK for a spot on the bench soon, as he seems naturally a very fit bloke.

That being said, I expect him to feature a bit less this season anyway.

Not just recovery time, but how long to get to to speed. Missing pre season can be massive in that respect

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT · Aug 5, 2023

Chris1987 said:
I had an ACL reconstruction as a consequence of a football injury. The surgery isn't that bad ( muscle is taken from the thigh to construct a new ligament ) but the real issue is potential muscle wastage due to the initial bed rest. The physio is intense to say the least and the new ligament is only well and truly good to go once it has developed its own new blood vessels. This is why it takes so long to come back from an injury of this nature. It can also cause cartilage issues later on.

Looking at those photos of Callum O'HARE in the gym at Ryton he's not short of a muscle or two.

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