Is now the time to start a new club? (1 Viewer)

Flying Fokker · Apr 23, 2013

I've had enought of this shit. Coventry City should stay in Coventry.

If the club goes out of the city I think a new club should be formed..
Call the club what you like, anything will be better than having this SISU shower in control.

I wonder if Hoffman et al are planning something like this?

Not buying a season ticket even if there is one. Not travelling anywhere 5 miles outside the Ricoh. Stuff it.

Season ticket holders will not travel. The club will be dead if they move away from here. SISU have stolen the identity of CCFC and ruined our history. They should not be allowed to trade.

Covcraig@bury · Apr 23, 2013

I second that

withers · Apr 23, 2013

I would actually prefer to be in Portsmouth's position

The Penguin · Apr 23, 2013

The question is, how many supporters will switch allegiances to the new club?

I probably would, because my ties to the club are purely through the city. If my father wasn't a Coventrian I wouldn't be supporting CCFC. I'm somewhat skeptical though that a new club would be as well supported in terms of numbers as CCFC is.

Flying Fokker · Apr 23, 2013

That would be good. But we need people with financial clout. May as well start from scratch and bring back the passion and commitment of fans.

This is a watershed moment. Im pretty sure the majority of season ticket holders, particularly those who have been with the club for the past 40 years no longer identify with the current brand of Coventry City. Many of them will be abandoned if the team if ccfc goes elsewhere. I predict attendances of 7,000 next season at the Ricoh with SISU in charge.

4000 maximum if they go elsewhere.....They (No longer us) in those circumstances.

Flying Fokker · Apr 23, 2013

The Penguin said:
The question is, how many supporters will switch allegiances to the new club?

I probably would, because my ties to the club are purely through the city. If my father wasn't a Coventrian I wouldn't be supporting CCFC. I'm somewhat skeptical though that a new club would be as well supported in terms of numbers as CCFC is.

Yes, you're probably right on those points. But there needs to be a reaction to this debacle. A new club would galvanise the fans and restore the faith in new owners of the club. It all stinks but it may be the only option.

jimmyhillsfanclub · Apr 23, 2013

A new club would die on its arse within 3 years unless it actually REPLACED the old CCFC.....

City struggle to attract fans (unless they all jump the Pain-pot bandwagon) so a new "AFC Cov" type team plying their trade in the non-league structure would just die.....Leamington, Hinckley etc. are already better placed to mop up the few hundred willing to watch non-league footy week in week out.

The Penguin · Apr 23, 2013

Flying Fokker said:
That would be good. But we need people with financial clout. May as well start from scratch and bring back the passion and commitment of fans.

This is a watershed moment. Im pretty sure the majority of season ticket holders, particularly those who have been with the club for the past 40 years no longer identify with the current brand of Coventry City. Many of them will be abandoned if the team if ccfc goes elsewhere. I predict attendances of 7,000 next season at the Ricoh with SISU in charge.

I don't think it's just season ticket holders, but yeah, I think many people are quite disillusioned. If we're at the Ricoh next season, I can see us getting similar crowds to this season if we are enjoying some on-field success, though I think our season ticket numbers (if they are ever announced/sold) will be well down.

4000 maximum if they go elsewhere.....They (No longer us) in those circumstances.

This I agree wholeheartedly with....though perhaps 4000 is still a touch too generous.

theferret · Apr 23, 2013

You talk as though any move out of the city would be permanent, when we all know it wouldn't last more than a season in reality. Start a new club fine, but within a season or two, the real CCFC would be back in the city playing league football. Who would people choose to watch, CCFC or some wishy-washy alternative knocking about a league or two above Cov Sphinx?

The Penguin · Apr 23, 2013

theferret said:
You talk as though any move out of the city would be permanent, when we all know it wouldn't last more than a season in reality. Start a new club fine, but within a season or two, the real CCFC would be back in the city playing league football. Who would people choose to watch, CCFC or some wishy-washy alternative knocking about a league or two above Cov Sphinx?

CCFC playing league football in Coventry would, of course, win. No contest.

I think jimmyhillsfanclub said it best; any new club would have to replace the old one, not merely supplant it while the old one sorted its shit out.

Flying Fokker · Apr 23, 2013

What about the likes of Hoffman et al who want to make thei mark in football. Success on the pitch backed by a team of investors will surely make an impact whatever league they are in. The club emerging out of the embers of Coventry City could be the making of the area.

Gray · Apr 23, 2013

The only problem with starting a new club is that it would have to start playing its football outside the City which is the one thing everyone wants to avoid

Flying Fokker · Apr 23, 2013

Why would it have to start outside the City? Are there rules?

Gray · Apr 23, 2013

Flying Fokker said:
Why would it have to start outside the City? Are there rules?

Because there is no stadium to play in

torchomatic · Apr 23, 2013

I wouldn't and couldn't support anyone else.

I still think we'll be at the Ricoh come the new season.

The Penguin said:
The question is, how many supporters will switch allegiances to the new club?

I probably would, because my ties to the club are purely through the city. If my father wasn't a Coventrian I wouldn't be supporting CCFC. I'm somewhat skeptical though that a new club would be as well supported in terms of numbers as CCFC is.

hill83 · Apr 23, 2013

It would never work whilst 'we' CCFC, still exist. I'm sure the 100 or so people on here will have a giggle though.

The Penguin · Apr 23, 2013

torchomatic said:
I still think we'll be at the Ricoh come the new season.

I hope you're right.

Given the long running soap opera that is Coventry City Football Club though, I'm not putting my faith in any outcome!

BrisbaneBronco · Apr 23, 2013

Gray said:
The only problem with starting a new club is that it would have to start playing its football outside the City which is the one thing everyone wants to avoid

Birmingham/Manchester/Liverpool/Sheffield/Nottingham all have 2 football teams.
Why cant there be 2 in Coventry.

AFC Coventry owned by PH1V playing at the Ricoh
Coventry City Football Club owned by SISU playing at the Butts

Just imagine the rivalry if they met in 1st round of the FA Cup.

PUAFCCOVENTRY LOL

Flying Fokker · Apr 23, 2013

Gray said:
Because there is no stadium to play in

The Butts? The Ricoh?

Flying Fokker · Apr 23, 2013

who would want to support SISU?

Sent from my hard to type I phone

letsallsingtogether · Apr 23, 2013

Look what happened to Wimbledon they were moved to milton keynes not many followed them there, they are now a Milton Keynes side.
They restarted the club in the lowest division and are now on the way up with their old supporters not bad for team that only had 5000 supporters.:blue:

rupert_bear · Apr 23, 2013

What league would we go in ? The Evo bubble gum sticky league i believe applications for which are probably in now.

theferret · Apr 23, 2013

letsallsingtogether said:
Look what happened to Wimbledon they were moved to milton keynes not many followed them there, they are now a Milton Keynes side.
They restarted the club in the lowest division and are now on the way up with their old supporters not bad for team that only had 5000 supporters.:blue:

That's a shit comparison. That involved an already poorly supported club moving to the largest urban area in the UK without a league club and starting afresh.

What large population centre could SISU move us to where there is no football club and a decent sized ground sitting empty? Not only that, league have rules in place against that sort of thing now.

Any move would be temporary, so any new club would have to compete directly with CCFC, and nobody I know would turn their back on the club they have supported all their life to go and support a new club playing in a pub league. That's the reality, so all this new club talk is silly.

Gray · Apr 23, 2013

Flying Fokker said:
The Butts? The Ricoh?

Ricoh would be too expensive, can't afford to play there now let alone with the 3000 people you'd get in the evo stick league or whatever we'd be in.

Forgot about the butts. Dunno if it would be alright to play football on with it getting ripped apart by rugby players every week. Although Wigan seem to cope alright

Manchester_sky_blue · Apr 23, 2013

If the worst happens and the club is liquidated for good and all then a new team starting from scratch might work but until that time its just a distraction.

Besides if people wanted to watch non-league footy in Cov why wouldnt they just go and watch the Sphinx? They are already up and running, with bigger crowds and some investment they could probably move up the league structure more easily than a brand new team could.

pusbccfc · Apr 23, 2013

As said above, why start a new team? We've got a decent enough team in sphinx. You could keep the Sphinx name, you've got a ground etc.

Then with Crowds of 2k you'd slowly get in the pounds to buy the better players and rise up the leagues.

Nonleagueherewecome · Apr 23, 2013

The Penguin said:
CCFC playing league football in Coventry would, of course, win. No contest.

I think jimmyhillsfanclub said it best; any new club would have to replace the old one, not merely supplant it while the old one sorted its shit out.

Take us out of Coventry and it is time to start a new club though.

deanocity3 · Apr 23, 2013

new club but still play at the ricoh

Nonleagueherewecome · Apr 23, 2013

Manchester_sky_blue said:
If the worst happens and the club is liquidated for good and all then a new team starting from scratch might work but until that time its just a distraction.

Besides if people wanted to watch non-league footy in Cov why wouldnt they just go and watch the Sphinx? They are already up and running, with bigger crowds and some investment they could probably move up the league structure more easily than a brand new team could.

Because they are not Coventry City. AFC Wimbledon ARE Wimbledon FC. The existing club playing in a different town would in essence no longer be Coventry City, certainly not to me or anybody I know. You try telling any Wimbledon fan that they should be supporting MK Dons and see what they say to you...if they can build up from the bottom, as a bigger club, so can we!

deanocity3 · Apr 23, 2013

Nonleagueherewecome said:
Because they are not Coventry City. AFC Wimbledon ARE Wimbledon FC. The existing club playing in a different town would in essence no longer be Coventry City, certainly not to me or anybody I know. You try telling any Wimbledon fan that they should be supporting MK Dons and see what they say to you...if they can build up from the bottom, as a bigger club, so can we!

sky blues fc,why not as there is no such place as Port Vale,we can give ourselves any name we want.

jabharty · Apr 23, 2013

Nonleagueherewecome said:
Because they are not Coventry City. AFC Wimbledon ARE Wimbledon FC. The existing club playing in a different town would in essence no longer be Coventry City, certainly not to me or anybody I know. You try telling any Wimbledon fan that they should be supporting MK Dons and see what they say to you...if they can build up from the bottom, as a bigger club, so can we!

This.
Crap analogy I know, but would Man Utd fans turn to FC United of Manchester if Utd themselves went bust? Doubt it.

Flying Fokker · Apr 23, 2013

TATA Coventry ?

Flying Fokker · Apr 23, 2013

This posted by edgy on GMK...

Just had a brief discussion with Daryl Murphy on Twitter about this.

Could a potential buyer (Haskell, whoever) buy CCFC Ltd (containing the name & Golden Share) & 50% of the Ricoh, arrange a rent deal with ACL and leave CCFC Holdings (players, staff etc) alone?

The idea being the new owner would have a “staffless” football club and be able to staff it with who they see fit. New manager, players, office staff the lot.

SISU would be left with just players & staff and no football club. Leaving them open to the new owner, popping back in a months time and cherry picking the best of the previous staff.

skybluericoh · Apr 23, 2013

deanocity3 said:
sky blues fc,why not as there is no such place as Port Vale,we can give ourselves any name we want.

How about 'acetastingmotivatingnevernevergonadiefizzinupyourssisu F.C' these 'AFC (insert whatever) names are so yesterday

Nonleagueherewecome · Apr 23, 2013

jabharty said:
This.
Crap analogy I know, but would Man Utd fans turn to FC United of Manchester if Utd themselves went bust? Doubt it.

That was a protest club as opposed to an alternative-even the players are mostly Man U fans. If Man U moved to a different City, then a reformed Man U in Manchester would attract more support.

Of course it is a bad analogy for one obvious reason-most Man U fans aren't from Manchester!

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