Is the Butts deal imminent? (26 Viewers)

torchomatic · May 25, 2016

ricohroar said:
We will never own our own ground, we may one day pay ££££'s t Sisu to rent the ground rather than wasps but CCFC will never ever own its own ground.

And we wouldn't even if we were taken over by new owners tomorrow.

clint van damme · May 25, 2016

lewys33 said:
If we could build a stadium which holds 15-18k initially with guaranteed approval to up it to mimimum 25k then yes I am in.

The argument surrounding infrastructure is bollocks. How does Cardiff cope with 78k at the Millenium Stadium?? They close the roads. It is quite simple.

You've got to be realistic, they're not going to close one of the main roads into Earlsdon 23 times a year. (mainly on a Saturdays).

And as I've said several times about infrastructure, this isn't about vehicular access, the pedestrian access to the site is currently very poor.

If someone can show me feasible solutions to these issues, how implementing them will be funded and to what capacity the ground will increase beyond the current figures banded about of 13-18,000 then I'm all for BPA but until then I'm sceptical.

clint van damme · May 25, 2016

torchomatic said:
Apologies. Must have missed the bit where it was stated the capacity would be 15K for "decades to come".

Maybe it won't, but I want to see a viable plan for the increasing the stadium capacity otherwise I'm sceptical of anything other than us been stuck in a 15k stadium for the foreseeable future.

chiefdave · May 25, 2016

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/old-power-station-site-back-11364583

30 acre site up for sale for £4-5m. Its the site of the old power station in Aldermans Green.

Brylowes · May 25, 2016

covcity4life said:
a REAL fans view on it all

So if you don't think BPA is a realistic and adequate for our needs now or in the future,
your not a real fan. Ok then.

Brylowes · May 25, 2016

chiefdave said:
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/old-power-station-site-back-11364583

30 acre site up for sale for £4-5m. Its the site of the old power station in Aldermans Green.

Got to be worth looking at hasn't it ?

letsallsingtogether · May 25, 2016

chiefdave said:
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/old-power-station-site-back-11364583

30 acre site up for sale for £4-5m. Its the site of the old power station in Aldermans Green.

But they will want to build it for that price.

ccfc92 · May 25, 2016

letsallsingtogether said:
But they will want to build it for that price.

Sorted:

Calista · May 25, 2016

chiefdave said:
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/old-power-station-site-back-11364583

30 acre site up for sale for £4-5m. Its the site of the old power station in Aldermans Green.

I see the estate agents are “Fisher German”. Could that be CCFC's very own dynamic duo?

Brylowes · May 25, 2016

ccfc92 said:
Sorted:

That's cool , where is it ?
Get a lumberjack in, I'd go there.

stupot07 · May 25, 2016

Looks far leas accessible than the butts.

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Senior Vick from Alicante · May 25, 2016

Brylowes said:
Got to be worth looking at hasn't it ?

Mentioned it before on other threads and it was poo pooed.

Otis · May 25, 2016

lewys33 said:
If we could build a stadium which holds 15-18k initially with guaranteed approval to up it to mimimum 25k then yes I am in.

The argument surrounding infrastructure is bollocks. How does Cardiff cope with 78k at the Millenium Stadium?? They close the roads. It is quite simple.

That will please Earlsdon.

The Reverend Skyblue · May 25, 2016

ccfc92 said:
Sorted:

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that's the old Vale of Leithan ground in Glasgow if I'm not mistaken. That's one hell of a relocation though I bet the football league would grant permisssion

Brylowes · May 25, 2016

Senior Vick from Alicante said:
Mentioned it before on other threads and it was poo pooed.

People probably think it's to far out of town , a central location would be great, but
only if the site is suitable.

torchomatic · May 25, 2016

The Reverend Skyblue said:
that's the old Vale of Leithan ground in Glasgow if I'm not mistaken. That's one hell of a relocation though I bet the football league would grant permisssion

Don't worry, SISU could just say that had to move as CCFC would have folded if they hadn't. They could also say "it was just business". Italia et al would fall for that.

fernandopartridge · May 25, 2016

chiefdave said:
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/old-power-station-site-back-11364583

30 acre site up for sale for £4-5m. Its the site of the old power station in Aldermans Green.

It's too rural and has dreadful access, probably one of the reasons why it hasn't been developed by its existing owner.

Brylowes · May 25, 2016

fernandopartridge said:
It's too rural and has dreadful access, probably one of the reasons why it hasn't been developed by its existing owner.

That does look rural and about halfway between two motorway Jn's, what is the land
just north of the airport, north and south of the A45 jwhere it meets the A444 .
From Google maps it just looks like rough ground, looks about 2 miles from
the city centre.
I do realise I'm clutching at straws, does anyone know what it is / who owns it .

armybike · May 25, 2016

fernandopartridge said:
It's too rural and has dreadful access, probably one of the reasons why it hasn't been developed by its existing owner.

The proposed development is for a marina, so most of the punters would have been from the canal.

However, it'd be a ball ache for people to get to if it was a stadium site and only one access from Alderman's Green Road. Plus only a few boozers nearby and not a lot of other amenities.

But it's a decent size site and maybe could encourage people to spend money on site and thereby increase revenue for the club/team.

So, in short it's definitely splinters in bum time for me on this one

Deleted member 4439 · May 25, 2016

Otis said:
That will please Earlsdon.

But would give fans the space and safety in which to enjoy the walk up to the match...

Astute · May 25, 2016

clint van damme said:
You've got to be realistic, they're not going to close one of the main roads into Earlsdon 23 times a year. (mainly on a Saturdays).

And as I've said several times about infrastructure, this isn't about vehicular access, the pedestrian access to the site is currently very poor.

If someone can show me feasible solutions to these issues, how implementing them will be funded and to what capacity the ground will increase beyond the current figures banded about of 13-18,000 then I'm all for BPA but until then I'm sceptical.

Some of the roads in the area are bad. Last season I got stuck in traffic on my way to Swindon. And that was well before kick off time for sure as I was on my way to the game. So I would guess that it would be worse later in the afternoon. But with it being in a central location you wouldn't have to drive there. And it is close enough to get there by train.

We should wait and see what the plans are before saying that the site isn't big enough. It will be difficult with the old people's home on the doorstep. But there could be ways around it. And maybe standing would be allowed. It is in the division that we play in. IIRC we would have 2 years to make it an all seater if we got promoted. So we would have at least 3 years of being able to stand in a stadium near the city centre. What a bonus.

On the other hand we don't know what SISU are planning. Has this come out to aid them in getting a better deal with Wasps? Have they continued with what looks to be futile litigation with CCC to get them to help with planning permission? Have they decided to try something at the Butts as they know that they are going to upset Wasps with litigation?

Show me the details and I will decide. Not before. I don't think that it will happen. But that doesn't mean that it won't.

Brylowes · May 25, 2016

dubed said:
But would give fans the space and safety in which to enjoy the walk up to the match...

Which lot are ours , I wish they'd wear kits , don't know who to cheer for :bag:

Otis · May 25, 2016

Astute said:
Some of the roads in the area are bad. Last season I got stuck in traffic on my way to Swindon. And that was well before kick off time for sure as I was on my way to the game. So I would guess that it would be worse later in the afternoon. But with it being in a central location you wouldn't have to drive there. And it is close enough to get there by train.

We should wait and see what the plans are before saying that the site isn't big enough. It will be difficult with the old people's home on the doorstep. But there could be ways around it.

Yeah,they've all got to die at some point haven't they.

Just a case of biding our time I would have thought.

Deleted member 4439 · May 25, 2016

Brylowes said:
Which lot are ours , I wish they'd wear kits , don't know who to cheer for :bag:

2.45 "Where's ya tool?"

Brylowes · May 25, 2016

dubed said:
2.45 "Where's ya tool?"

Wot fackin tool !

italiahorse · May 25, 2016

torchomatic said:
Don't worry, SISU could just say that had to move as CCFC would have folded if they hadn't. They could also say "it was just business". Italia et al would fall for that.

Never fell for it the first time at Sixfields. You need to be careful you don't get fooled again.

wingy · May 25, 2016

Brylowes said:
People probably think it's to far out of town , a central location would be great, but
only if the site is suitable.

I'm finding this whole debate far out man.

clint van damme · May 25, 2016

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Astute said:
But there could be ways around it. And maybe standing would be allowed. It is in the division that we play in. IIRC we would have 2 years to make it an all seater if we got promoted. So we would have at least 3 years of being able to stand in a stadium near the city centre. What a bonus.

That's reminded me, Celtic will have a safe standing area next season. If successful I 'm sure it will be rolled out in England. That could go some way toward increasing capacity in a smaller stadium.

Astute · May 25, 2016

clint van damme said:
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That's reminded me, Celtic will have a safe standing area next season. If successful I 'm sure it will be rolled out in England. That could go some way toward increasing capacity in a smaller stadium.

You are allowed them in England at our level now though.

Deleted member 5849 · May 25, 2016

The Reverend Skyblue said:
that's the old Vale of Leithan ground in Glasgow if I'm not mistaken. That's one hell of a relocation though I bet the football league would grant permisssion

Third Lanark.

The second Hampden Park, that is. Always wanted to pay that a visit myself, along with Park Avenue in Bradford.

The Reverend Skyblue · May 25, 2016

Yes your right Norman, I should of got that correct as I like seeing pictures of old grounds. I think they have volunteers to maintain the terracing etc ,they overlook the trees growing through the concrete though.
Bradford PA old pitch I think is now half a cricket pitch and a half keep fit place/gym , someone told me that the old turnstiles and some terracing are still there ,like you id love to visit the old grounds.
I'm sure Millmoor is still up as is Belle Vue and Hull's old ground, but could be wrong on that as well

6 Generations · May 25, 2016

Otis said:
That will please Earlsdon.

I predict much gnashing of 'nimby' teeth

Otis · May 25, 2016

6 Generations said:
I predict much gnashing of 'nimby' teeth

And much wispy beard scratching.

6 Generations · May 25, 2016

Otis said:
Yeah,they've all got to die at some point haven't they.

Just a case of biding our time I would have thought.

I struggled to refrain from any euthanasia based poor attempts at wit

Otis · May 25, 2016

Just thought I'd have a look at what Earlsdon residents are saying on FB.

Not overly chuffed at the thought of the City moving in at all seemingly.

There's only half a dozen comments mind. They will now be known as the Earlsdon Six.

As a side note, just in general, the hot topic in Earlsdon is parking (nowt to do with the City or Butts), just in general.

Maybe we can build an underpass.

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