Is the Ricoh to big (3 Viewers)

[Macca]

Council owned?

Not arsed really, it's all about the football not politics for me

 

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[Hobo]

Not arsed really, it's all about the football not politics for me

15000 and I would agree....dual season tickets for the real Coventry teams.

 

[torchomatic]

I wouldn't be against a merger with CRFC.

 

[Otis]

Merge with CRFC expand Butts to 10k. I'd get a season ticket

Hang on a tad though, I thought very much amongst the list of complaints about sharing with Wasps was about them buggering up the pitch.

Do Cov play in carpet slippers or something?

 

[Otis]

There's just not room to develop it much further either.

 

[Hobo]

Hang on a tad though, I thought very much amongst the list of complaints about sharing with Wasps was about them buggering up the pitch.

Do Cov play in carpet slippers or something?

it like people saying how great the Bristol pitch was and the Ricoh is shit.....depends on the surface laid rather than who plays on it!

 

[Otis]

It currently has a capacity of 3,000. Can't see anyway it could ever become a 15,000 seat arena. No room to develop.

 

[Grendel]

it like people saying how great the Bristol pitch was and the Ricoh is shit.....depends on the surface laid rather than who plays on it!

Bit like those who said a certain cabbage patch couldn't handle two football teams playing on it.

 

[Hobo]

It currently has a capacity of 3,000. Can't see anyway it could ever become a 15,000 seat arena. No room to develop.

You could but there would be no parking....unless you demolished the Spon End estate

 

[Grendel]

The real problem I suspect with the Ricoh is it's as much an away ground to us as most teams who go there.

Is there another football club in England that can't train on its own pitch when it ever wanted to?

 

[Hobo]

Bit like those who said a certain cabbage patch couldn't handle two football teams playing on it.

Lets not forget SISU have invested more in Northampton's pitch than the Ricohs....perhaps they shot themselves in the foot yet again!

 

[skybluetony176]

Merge with CRFC expand Butts to 10k. I'd get a season ticket

Like to see a bigger ground but I like the idea. Although that would mean forcing SISU on CRFC which I wouldn't wish on anyone.

 

[Grendel]

Lets not forget SISU have invested more in Northampton's pitch than the Ricohs....perhaps they shot themselves in the foot yet again!

Well no as they have had training sessions there - which the council always charged for.

As for investing more - i would suggest the £200,000 a year paid above the £1.3 million was more than enough - wouldn't you?

 

[Hobo]

The real problem I suspect with the Ricoh is it's as much an away ground to us as most teams who go there.

Is there another football club in England that can't train on its own pitch when it ever wanted to?

most don't want to train on their own pitch....they use their training facilities.

 

[Hobo]

Well no as they have had training sessions there - which the council always charged for.

As for investing more - i would suggest the £200,000 a year paid above the £1.3 million was more than enough - wouldn't you?

I thought they also paid rent at Northampton?

 

[Grendel]

most don't want to train on their own pitch....they use their training facilities.

They never train on the pitch -- ever? That's odd - I've seen the team train on it on 3 separate occasions.

 

[italiahorse]

I thought they also paid rent at Northampton?

A lot more than we pay to rent the Ricoh.
I suppose if we paid more rent we could have more facilities.
We'd sooner pay more for a shop somewhere else.

 

[Hobo]

They never train on the pitch -- ever? That's odd - I've seen the team train on it on 3 separate occasions.

where in my sentence was the words 'never' and 'ever'? How many times have you seen a smoking gun?

 

[Grendel]

where in my sentence was the words 'never' and 'ever'? How many times have you seen a smoking gun?

That I am afraid is a desperate answer. This is a discussion regarding the Ricoh.

I asked are we the only club in the UK that's ever had to pay or ask permission to play at its own stadium. I believe the answer is yes. Rather than try and divert the question - either answer it or don't but do not try and skirt round the issue with mentions of other grounds.

 

[Macca]

Hang on a tad though, I thought very much amongst the list of complaints about sharing with Wasps was about them buggering up the pitch.


Do Cov play in carpet slippers or something?

Fair point but I could live with that

 

[Hobo]

That I am afraid is a desperate answer. This is a discussion regarding the Ricoh.

I asked are we the only club in the UK that's ever had to pay or ask permission to play at its own stadium. I believe the answer is yes. Rather than try and divert the question - either answer it or don't but do not try and skirt round the issue with mentions of other grounds.

I know it is a discussion about the Ricoh and to suggest it is to blame for poor performance is ridiculous.

my desperate answer actually alludes to one of your desperate answers.

In recent years we haven't had players with the desire and mentality for winning. They have failed to make it our own.

 

[Otis]

Fair point but I could live with that

If it was doable I would be happy with us sharing with Cov. I go past the Butts regularly though and there's just not the room to develop and nowhere to park either.

 

[RFC]

Lets not forget SISU have invested more in Northampton's pitch than the Ricohs....perhaps they shot themselves in the foot yet again!

SISU do not run or lease the Ricoh and are not responsible for the pitch but WASPS/ACL ARE!

Try and get your facts right.

We 're paying £1:28 MILLION and CCC refused to negotiate a sensible and realistic rent but Ann Lucas tempted the club back with £100,000 deal over 2,years with 2 year option with the knowledge that she'd been deceitfully negotiating with WASPS over a lease deal for over 6 months.

Why doesn't somebody (CT - CWR - Observer) ask her why the current deal £100,000 wasn't offered before the temporary move to Sixfields?

 

[Mary_Mungo_Midge]

Why doesn't somebody (CT - CWR - Observer) ask her why the current deal £100,000 wasn't offered before the temporary move to Sixfields?

I think it's because no rental deal would have got them to stay. Moving to Sixfields was all about distressing ACL. A judicial review judge, being in receipt of an incredible amount of evidence from all sides concluded this. There's no need to ask a question again that's already been comprehensively answered

 

[Hobo]

SISU do not run or lease the Ricoh and are not responsible for the pitch but WASPS/ACL ARE!

Try and get your facts right.

We 're paying £1:28 MILLION and CCC refused to negotiate a sensible and realistic rent but Ann Lucas tempted the club back with £100,000 deal over 2,years with 2 year option with the knowledge that she'd been deceitfully negotiating with WASPS over a lease deal for over 6 months.

Why doesn't somebody (CT - CWR - Observer) ask her why the current deal £100,000 wasn't offered before the temporary move to Sixfields?

I was talking about before they went to Northampton.

my facts are right.

negotiations are a two way street....you need to re read some of SISU's press statements freely given out by them.

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

I was scrolling through trying to see how many turned up to the Wasps game (curiosity, couldn't give a damn about Wasps) but thought the words under the Ricoh logo were somewhat ironic, given our current circumstances !

P.S. The logo put me off finding out how many turned up

 

[chiefdave]

A lot more than we pay to rent the Ricoh.

you need to factor in that Sixfields was inclusive of matchday costs which add around £300 - 400K a year on top of rent at the Ricoh.

 

[RFC]

I think it's because no rental deal would have got them to stay. Moving to Sixfields was all about distressing ACL. A judicial review judge, being in receipt of an incredible amount of evidence from all sides concluded this. There's no need to ask a question again that's already been comprehensively answered

Sorry but the question hasn't been answered, if it was my money invested in CCFC I'd be challenging the JR judgement just as the owners are!

If you are the leader of a council and instruct all 54 councillors to vote for on a deal to bailout a business that they have a 50% interest in and ALL 54 vote in favour with no abstentions then more questions need to be asked and answered.

Where could you or I get a loan (and remember this was £14:4 million) over a repayment period of 43 years??????????

Clever or smart then to suddenly take a huge loss on the Ricoh (WASPS paid just £2:75m to CCC & Higgs) but took on the balance of the £14:4 million loan but OVER A REPAYMENT PERIOD OF 20 years, with interest!!!!!!!!!!!

Far too many unanswered questions.

 

[Mary_Mungo_Midge]

Sorry but the question hasn't been answered, if it was my money invested in CCFC I'd be challenging the JR judgement just as the owners are!

If you had money invested in CCFC, what interest would you have in the financial affairs of your landlord; if the CEO of the business had declared a clear intention to build new? Surely, you'd save the expense of needless legal actions to help fund the new build?

 

[bigfatronssba]

Sorry but the question hasn't been answered, if it was my money invested in CCFC I'd be challenging the JR judgement just as the owners are!

If you are the leader of a council and instruct all 54 councillors to vote for on a deal to bailout a business that they have a 50% interest in and ALL 54 vote in favour with no abstentions then more questions need to be asked and answered.

Where could you or I get a loan (and remember this was £14:4 million) over a repayment period of 43 years??????????

Clever or smart then to suddenly take a huge loss on the Ricoh (WASPS paid just £2:75m to CCC & Higgs) but took on the balance of the £14:4 million loan but OVER A REPAYMENT PERIOD OF 20 years, with interest!!!!!!!!!!!

Far too many unanswered questions.

Actually CCC councillors are free to vote in whatever way they wish. That's called democracy, I know your not a fan of it, but its the system we have so learn to respect it.

They don't have to answer any questions regarding that if they do not want to. They have the authority to act on behalf of the people of Coventry, and do not have to answer questions on any matter unless a crime has been committed.

 

[skybluetony176]

Sorry but the question hasn't been answered, if it was my money invested in CCFC I'd be challenging the JR judgement just as the owners are!

If you are the leader of a council and instruct all 54 councillors to vote for on a deal to bailout a business that they have a 50% interest in and ALL 54 vote in favour with no abstentions then more questions need to be asked and answered.

Where could you or I get a loan (and remember this was £14:4 million) over a repayment period of 43 years??????????

Clever or smart then to suddenly take a huge loss on the Ricoh (WASPS paid just £2:75m to CCC & Higgs) but took on the balance of the £14:4 million loan but OVER A REPAYMENT PERIOD OF 20 years, with interest!!!!!!!!!!!

Far too many unanswered questions.

Thanks RFC. I needed cheering up after yesterdays results.

 

[chiefdave]

Actually CCC councillors are free to vote in whatever way they wish. That's called democracy, I know your not a fan of it, but its the system we have so learn to respect it.

The ACL vote wasn't a free vote was it?

 

[bigfatronssba]

The ACL vote wasn't a free vote was it?

Legally every vote is a free vote.

 

[sly_old_fox]

For the players mentality, read the post

ha ha, I think he is questioning your grasp of the English language

 

[chiefdave]

Legally every vote is a free vote.

Very different to the reality though. Unless it was declared a free vote we all know legal technicalities don't come in to it. In fact I seem to recall there were suggestions it should be a free vote but it not happening.