In a nutshell: No.
It's not really different from the payslips, receipts, etc from Ltd we've seen since day one.
So I guess in the event of Holdings having the contracts the owner of Ltd could have a claim to beneficial ownership of them. But IANOSB.
But doesn't it prove that their was more going on and being held in that side of the company than Appleton was being informed of?
NOPM & SISU OUT campaign is a complete waste of time, energy & negative thoughts IMHO!
Why because as fans (supporters) we DON'T get to choose who our owners are (just ask Leeds, Blackburn or even Man. U) & the majority would admit they're unhappy with their owners!
We need to be supporting what Steven Pressley is buying into, along with the players. A POSITIVE OUTLOOK & ATTITUDE and permanently lose the very, very negative 'aura' that's totally surrounded my football club for far too many years than I care to remember!
PUSB! PUSB! PUSB! PUSB!
NOPM & SISU OUT campaign is a complete waste of time, energy & negative thoughts IMHO!
Why because as fans (supporters) we DON'T get to choose who our owners are (just ask Leeds, Blackburn or even Man. U) & the majority would admit they're unhappy with their owners!
We need to be supporting what Steven Pressley is buying into, along with the players. A POSITIVE OUTLOOK & ATTITUDE and permanently lose the very, very negative 'aura' that's totally surrounded my football club for far too many years than I care to remember!
PUSB! PUSB! PUSB! PUSB!
Drivel
NOPM & SISU OUT campaign is a complete waste of time, energy & negative thoughts IMHO!
Why because as fans (supporters) we DON'T get to choose who our owners are (just ask Leeds, Blackburn or even Man. U) & the majority would admit they're unhappy with their owners!
We need to be supporting what Steven Pressley is buying into, along with the players. A POSITIVE OUTLOOK & ATTITUDE and permanently lose the very, very negative 'aura' that's totally surrounded my football club for far too many years than I care to remember!
PUSB! PUSB! PUSB! PUSB!
Just looked at the letter re McSheffrey. Look at the bottom - left CCFC Holdings Ltd and right CCFC (neither Holdings nor Ltd ). Signed by CCFC ( neither Holdings nor CCFC Ltd ) but refers to CCFC Ltd in the letter. Designed to confuse the league? or others? Otium Ltd is now trading as CCFC - could be argued that Holdings was "trading as" CCFC. The signature is CCFC - meaningless really as there is no such company as CCFC. CCFC being merely a brand name now being used by Otium Ltd. and CCFC Ltd being merely a non-trading property company. Only thoughts are...why didn't the league notice this? ...why did CCFC Holdings have their letter headed paper printed in this way?...why is the signatory's capacity not mentioned? On whose authority could he have been acting ( in giving away 50000,00 )? He was writing on Holdings paper, but refering to a transaction supposedly by another company. Was he a director of both companies? Stinks.
NOPM & SISU OUT campaign is a complete waste of time, energy & negative thoughts IMHO!
Why because as fans (supporters) we DON'T get to choose who our owners are (just ask Leeds, Blackburn or even Man. U) & the majority would admit they're unhappy with their owners!
We need to be supporting what Steven Pressley is buying into, along with the players. A POSITIVE OUTLOOK & ATTITUDE and permanently lose the very, very negative 'aura' that's totally surrounded my football club for far too many years than I care to remember!
PUSB! PUSB! PUSB! PUSB!
NOPM & SISU OUT campaign is a complete waste of time, energy & negative thoughts IMHO!
Why because as fans (supporters) we DON'T get to choose who our owners are (just ask Leeds, Blackburn or even Man. U) & the majority would admit they're unhappy with their owners!
We need to be supporting what Steven Pressley is buying into, along with the players. A POSITIVE OUTLOOK & ATTITUDE and permanently lose the very, very negative 'aura' that's totally surrounded my football club for far too many years than I care to remember!
PUSB! PUSB! PUSB! PUSB!
Wrong thread?
Just looked at the letter re McSheffrey. Look at the bottom - left CCFC Holdings Ltd and right CCFC (neither Holdings nor Ltd ). Signed by CCFC ( neither Holdings nor CCFC Ltd ) but refers to CCFC Ltd in the letter. Designed to confuse the league? or others? Otium Ltd is now trading as CCFC - could be argued that Holdings was "trading as" CCFC. The signature is CCFC - meaningless really as there is no such company as CCFC. CCFC being merely a brand name now being used by Otium Ltd. and CCFC Ltd being merely a non-trading property company. Only thoughts are...why didn't the league notice this? ...why did CCFC Holdings have their letter headed paper printed in this way?...why is the signatory's capacity not mentioned? On whose authority could he have been acting ( in giving away 50000,00 )? He was writing on Holdings paper, but refering to a transaction supposedly by another company. Was he a director of both companies? Stinks.
You do talk a lot of it
NOPM & SISU OUT campaign is a complete waste of time, energy & negative thoughts IMHO!
Why because as fans (supporters) we DON'T get to choose who our owners are (just ask Leeds, Blackburn or even Man. U) & the majority would admit they're unhappy with their owners!
We need to be supporting what Steven Pressley is buying into, along with the players. A POSITIVE OUTLOOK & ATTITUDE and permanently lose the very, very negative 'aura' that's totally surrounded my football club for far too many years than I care to remember!
PUSB! PUSB! PUSB! PUSB!
How predictable - any criticism of Sisu and you take the thread 100% off topic - join date: Apr 2013 = pathetic pro-Sisu stooge - how much are they paying you?
No, I am not a detective and I won't be going to the Sweeney...but...I used to work in a bank and this letter is sloppy to say the least. It also shows how lax the league is. A normal business would issue a credit note and send a copy of this with a covering letter to the league explaining what they have done. They would write the letter on their headed note paper and the signatory would sign on behalf of CCFC Ltd and describe his capacity for signing ( e.g. Finance Director ). No wonder that honest Tim says the accounts are messy and that the league has accepted letters from both Holdings and CCFC Ltd.. This letter is an illustration of this amateur farce. Not Tim's fault and further proof that the rot set in a long time ago.Oooooh you detective - best get onto the Sweeney
No, I am not a detective and I won't be going to the Sweeney...but...I used to work in a bank and this letter is sloppy to say the least. It also shows how lax the league is. A normal business would issue a credit note and send a copy of this with a covering letter to the league explaining what they have done. They would write the letter on their headed note paper and the signatory would sign on behalf of CCFC Ltd and describe his capacity for signing ( e.g. Finance Director ). No wonder that honest Tim says the accounts are messy and that the league has accepted letters from both Holdings and CCFC Ltd.. This letter is an illustration of this amateur farce. Not Tim's fault and further proof that the rot set in a long time ago.
Yes, about the credit note in normal circumstances...but I would send a copy anyway as proof of the transaction. The league should have had a tighter control by this time. Obviously though in this case, they didn't seem to care about the details.I agree with the majority of your points. Sloppy.
The detail is clear. CCFC ltd held Mcsheffreys contract. No doubt about that. Exception or the norm?
A credit note would be issued by CCFC ltd and sent to BCFC according to the letter. No need for the FL to see that
If Tim is 'Honest Tim' are you suggesting joy is dishonest? The letter obviously was sent out during Sisu time. She knows her way round a contract.
Honest Tim has said the practice of holdings being the team is well established. The letter shows him to be up to be less than honest.
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