Lord_Nampil
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Phillipe clement
It's a wind-up! (2 Viewers)
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torchomatic
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Shame he had "webbed legs". That was always a problem.
Now this geezer never got a chance....excellent debut at Old Trafford :facepalm:
AFCCOVENTRY
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well done... a bag of crisps for you sir
Grendel
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The change of heart is obvious.
Wednesday Huddersfield had not confirmed his salary. Friday it's confirmed and he's off.
There is the alternative scenario of course namely robins meets owners is told stick with us mark but there is a slight problem we are going into liquidation.
Mark agreed to stick with it then by pure chance stumbled across a job which pays more than he is getting now. As it is totally illegal for mark to make them aware of his interest without resigning they by total co incidence and good fortune request he joins them.
It's a likely tale. I'm sure mark robins will peddle it and I am sure some on hear will even believe it.
lordsummerisle
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Robins will be cursing this board, was just about to get a nice little earner when the negotiations started:
Huddersfield Chairman(Looking up from his ipad):"Look here, read on that Skybluetalk that Cov are going bust almost immediately, so you'd be out of a job anyway, so you can take half the money that you were on at Cov. Better than nowt"
Robins: "Fuck".
Huddersfield Chairman(Looking up from his ipad):"Look here, read on that Skybluetalk that Cov are going bust almost immediately, so you'd be out of a job anyway, so you can take half the money that you were on at Cov. Better than nowt"
Robins: "Fuck".
dongonzalos
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Or he watched sky, read any of the national news papers.
Or did anything other than stick his head in an ostriches's quite place.
Realised cov are apparently in financial meltdown.
We are talking to Hinckley and Rushed and Diamonds about borrowing their ground. Didn't you know (thanks Tim)
You may have missed it, it did hit the headlines, too much.
He may have thought crickey never thought we could nick that young manager doing well at a club like cov.
However with that sort if shit going down, who knows. May as well give home a call he may want out and they maybe paying him peanuts if they are that skint .....
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Grendel
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dongonzalos
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Doncaster manager goes to wolves
Coventry manager goes to Huddersfield
Lets play a game if spot the difference.
Doncaster fans genuinely believed they could get Civentry's manager as a replacement for their manager.
Coventry averaging 11-12 thousand fans.
Peaking at 30k this season
With a little bit if history behind them.
Arguably the biggest club in league one.
Any ideas why, doncaster fans felt confident?
Because they are delusional
Living on fluffy clouds?
Because in the national media we are skint, hence unlikely to give our manager what he wants, be it his own wages or s transfer budget.
Coventry manager goes to Huddersfield
Lets play a game if spot the difference.
Doncaster fans genuinely believed they could get Civentry's manager as a replacement for their manager.
Coventry averaging 11-12 thousand fans.
Peaking at 30k this season
With a little bit if history behind them.
Arguably the biggest club in league one.
Any ideas why, doncaster fans felt confident?
Because they are delusional
Living on fluffy clouds?
Because in the national media we are skint, hence unlikely to give our manager what he wants, be it his own wages or s transfer budget.
dongonzalos
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I know I don't really get that.
If we are not financially in the goats goolies
Then SISU need to get a grip and stop making the football world think we are.
Make Coventry look professional
We will attract better players and managers.
That rent crap makes us look like a joke.
Sort out a business deal.
Convince the world we are financially secure even if we are not.
The best trick the devil ever played .......
Grendel
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Doncaster appointed Brian Flynn. They pay less than us. Robins ultimately goes where the money is. If they paid more his "advisors" would tip him off and there he would go. Face up to it we have been had. Some on here think we can attract people like Nigel Adkins, no we can't.
Blackburn are a club constantly in the news regarding their finances so please enlighten me -- why did Appleton jump ship and go there?
Answer -- they pay him more!
Grendel
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Robins is greedy and selfish Don. No conspiracy that I am afraid is all there is to it.
dongonzalos
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Is Applying the best Blackburn can do and should be attracting.
If not please enlighten me.
In addition when was the last time you saw Blackburn in the press in an article suggesting they don't have a pot to piddle in and are nearly homeless?
You know it makes sense, SISU in an attempt to get half the Ricoh
Went in a amateur propaganda campaign.
That has enticed people to come after our manager.
Muppets.
georgehudson
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for what it's worth,
in a conversation with a person at the club,
some 6 months ago,
i was told that JS would liquidate the club unless s*su got their way,
i worry for CCFC fans that there may be substance to this,
PUSB
in a conversation with a person at the club,
some 6 months ago,
i was told that JS would liquidate the club unless s*su got their way,
i worry for CCFC fans that there may be substance to this,
PUSB
dongonzalos
Well-Known Member
Why worry got CCFC fans?
What direction are SISU taking us.
Go for a new dawn.
What direction are SISU taking us.
Go for a new dawn.
Grendel
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No it makes you sound very naive and foolish
Bluegloucester
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JS is very single minded, would not put it passed her to liquidate.
Sick Boy
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dongonzalos
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You pertain to have an understanding of marketing and business.
Yet you don't understand the concept that the more desperate a person sounds the more liberties the buyer or seller will take.
I think you do understand this concept but it flies in the face of your stance that SISU could not have contributed to this situation. So you choose to belittle the idea instead.
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Bluegloucester
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At least Hoffman & Elliot are still waiting in the wings for the right moment.
Let's hope so.
fernandopartridge
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JS liquidating the club would damage SISU's rep as a hedge fund, who would want to invest in them again?
hill83
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To be fair mate, you've come up with a theory. Which you are entitled to do, but it's nothing more than that. It's Grendels and anyone else's perogitve to question it.
Me? I get what you are saying. But in the grand scheme of things I think you're talking utter bollocks.
Clubs wanted Robins because he was doing a good job. Not because of statements about our finances. A Championship club had the draw and the money to snap Robins up regardless.
Put this conspiracy in the moon landing file.
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Bluegloucester
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Check their accounts, noone wants to invest in them anyway. Their reputation is shot.
mark82
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Is it? People are still investing with them that know more about financial markets than you and I. Stop confusing your opinion of their ability to run a football club with their wider reputation as a financial institute.
On the point of liquidation - can someone explain what exactly that would gain them. We have no real assets. If they were interested in cutting their losses they would be trying to sell the club first. They are not.
Snozz_is_god
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Too right the guy makes up things and spreads rubbish.
I never believe anything that comes from coventrycity.mad.co.uk, he's an absolute menace.
Remember Kurt Darago or whatever his name was a couple of weeks ago, well he help spread that rubbish and then conveniently withdrew his article once it was found out to be rubbish.
Please don't take anything he says a gospel, until you've heard it from a reliable source.
ThisManHere
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Oh how I crave for the days of Sebastian Olszar & Vincente Engonga.
That is actually where the problems started. Deloumeaux was falsely accused and for that I apologise.
That is actually where the problems started. Deloumeaux was falsely accused and for that I apologise.
dongonzalos
Well-Known Member
I know why they want him.
The point I am making is why do clubs smaller than Coventry think it is worth trying to snatch him from a bigger club.
Good morning All.
Does it not seem strange, that just over a week ago, Mark Robins fielded a side in front of 31,000 adoring fans, stressed he was more than happy to be Sky Blues manager, saluted "our magnificent Supporters" and said that he'd held positive talks with "Board Members" and "The Owner" And now we find he has jumped ship and Joined Struggling Hudersfield.
Despite his reputation as a quiter, if things didn't go his way, I suspect his departure was down to serious political reasons, deep seated concerns about the future
Status of our club, or was it really about his wages, in any event, any club he manages, will be holding their breath, waiting for the dummy to be spat.
Does it not seem strange, that just over a week ago, Mark Robins fielded a side in front of 31,000 adoring fans, stressed he was more than happy to be Sky Blues manager, saluted "our magnificent Supporters" and said that he'd held positive talks with "Board Members" and "The Owner" And now we find he has jumped ship and Joined Struggling Hudersfield.
Despite his reputation as a quiter, if things didn't go his way, I suspect his departure was down to serious political reasons, deep seated concerns about the future
Status of our club, or was it really about his wages, in any event, any club he manages, will be holding their breath, waiting for the dummy to be spat.
torchomatic
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Personally, I think he's from the Steve Coppell school of management...no bottle. He'll do the same to HT.
oldskyblue58
CCFC Finance Director
going back to the original post of the winding up rumour.............. just how does ACL get any money from CCFC by winding it up ? Not saying it is not action ACL might take but it has to be the very very last resort for all sorts of reasons....... remember all the assets are charged to SISU or ARVO so there are no assets to claim, so what would be the benefit to ACL. If ACL take such action they wave goodbye to the debt they have, but also the football club.......... the Council, Charity & ACL do not want to wind up CCFC unless there absolutely is no other option.
Not an insolvency expert but perhaps there are still other options, other actions ACL can take ? What would get them money from any action to at least part settle their debt
or perhaps a deal can still be brokered that the "owner" sees fit to buy into. Just my opinion but the feeling I get is that there is only one thing stopping a deal and that is the "owner". The worrying part is that "owner" appears not to have any real affinity for the club.
SISU cant afford to write off £40m of their clients money it is said ........ we know this because ? - the only info we have is the SISU Capital accounts where they act as agents for some clients,......... do we have any info on the funds themselves, or ARVO?......... Is the £40m but a small percentage of a profitable much bigger pot? The "owner" might feel comfortable in taking it all the way to the end game and losing £40m knowing they have capped the debt and making far more profits elsewhere that the losses can save tax on. We can only guess
Yes it is all conjecture .......... and I put it out there for others to think about. What might seem obvious probably isnt when it comes to CCFC
just as an aside ........ anyone notice how JS seems now to be refered to as the "owner"........ thats a change, SISU always used to be the agents acting for the anonymous investors who were the owners :thinking about:
Not an insolvency expert but perhaps there are still other options, other actions ACL can take ? What would get them money from any action to at least part settle their debt
or perhaps a deal can still be brokered that the "owner" sees fit to buy into. Just my opinion but the feeling I get is that there is only one thing stopping a deal and that is the "owner". The worrying part is that "owner" appears not to have any real affinity for the club.
SISU cant afford to write off £40m of their clients money it is said ........ we know this because ? - the only info we have is the SISU Capital accounts where they act as agents for some clients,......... do we have any info on the funds themselves, or ARVO?......... Is the £40m but a small percentage of a profitable much bigger pot? The "owner" might feel comfortable in taking it all the way to the end game and losing £40m knowing they have capped the debt and making far more profits elsewhere that the losses can save tax on. We can only guess
Yes it is all conjecture .......... and I put it out there for others to think about. What might seem obvious probably isnt when it comes to CCFC
just as an aside ........ anyone notice how JS seems now to be refered to as the "owner"........ thats a change, SISU always used to be the agents acting for the anonymous investors who were the owners :thinking about:
Grendel
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1. We are a smaller club at the moment with worse prospects - Wembley and promotion chances have diminished
2. Huddersfield will earn at least £4million more than us this season
3. They are reportedly trebling his salary
4. They did not snatch him - he will have found a way to leak his interest to the club
Sky Blues
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What if ACL has come to the conclusion, based on talks, that Sisu has no intention of paying the unpaid rent and isn't budging on paying rent going forward? Could the threat of winding up be raised to try to focus minds? Or would a simple eviction notice achieve the same focus?
oldskyblue58
CCFC Finance Director
Well the threat of winding up proceedings has been there since December and things have not changed........... they could lock the doors but the FL would make CCFC play elsewhere to fulfill fixtures which would leave the lease running. The winding up option remains as a choice but it is the final choice, it also matters who is perceived to have taken that final choice.
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ThisManHere
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Wait a minute, what about Craig Pead? What is his involvement in all of this?