its very quiet on here isn't it? (2 Viewers)

afan4life

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even the usual blinkered spin doctors are struggling to find anything to say...The fights gone and the plug hole gets closer ever closer.....please Sisu do one honourable thing for Our club and go...nothing can be worse than this....Lets start again even if its in Div 2....which is our current destination anyway
 

Nick

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Not as quiet as when we get a good result.

Must have missed you discussing the game?
 

Nick

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A Good Result, when did that happen? take the blinkers off and talk sense ...let me spell it out for you Nick
BOTTOM OF DIVISION ONE
What did you think of the game yesterday? Feel free to talk some sense about it.

What do you think was wrong during the 90 minutes?
 

Wyken Sky Blue

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even the usual blinkered spin doctors are struggling to find anything to say...The fights gone and the plug hole gets closer ever closer.....please Sisu do one honourable thing for Our club and go...nothing can be worse than this....Lets start again even if its in Div 2....which is our current destination anyway
This forum is a much better place when you don't post.

I hope we win next week so you can crawl back into your cave and rot you dirty troll.

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Nick

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It's almost as if people like this have no interest and no clue about football, it's very strange.
 

peeler

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even the usual blinkered spin doctors are struggling to find anything to say...The fights gone and the plug hole gets closer ever closer.....please Sisu do one honourable thing for Our club and go...nothing can be worse than this....Lets start again even if its in Div 2....which is our current destination anyway

Alan, how dare you suggest on this message board that it is ultimately SISUs fault.

You do realize that a fair few on hear think the problems aren't of SISUs making and they are victims in an evil conspiracy to drive them out of the City.

They are easy to spot in real life as you normally only see their arse, with their heads are firmly stuck in sand.
 

trevelfarandwide

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I'm strictly against SISU bashing, because it's a futile endeavour mostly...

...if they did actually 'do one', is the OP prepared for his club to be liquidated and cease to exist? It's the reality of such a situation - SISU are the life support of CCFC.

They cannot and will not 'do one', it's not in their interests. We need a buyer/investor with more money than business sense, but since those are scarce, we're pretty much lumbered with SISU until the day they cannot sustain the club any further.
 

Nick

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Alan, how dare you suggest on this message board that it is ultimately SISUs fault.

You do realize that a fair few on hear think the problems aren't of SISUs making and they are victims in an evil conspiracy to drive them out of the City.

They are easy to spot in real life as you normally only see their arse, with their heads are firmly stuck in sand.

What did you think of the game yesterday? I bet you have absolutely no idea what went on do you?

#NOPM until we win a few games.

Joker.
 

Grendel

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Alan, how dare you suggest on this message board that it is ultimately SISUs fault.

You do realize that a fair few on hear think the problems aren't of SISUs making and they are victims in an evil conspiracy to drive them out of the City.

They are easy to spot in real life as you normally only see their arse, with their heads are firmly stuck in sand.

How do you know his name is Alan?
 

afan4life

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Finally you have all woken up , no doubt out late celebrating a point at home against the mighty Oldham......I am no troll just a real fan that can think for himself, you slagging me off just proves what I am saying...blinkered small minded folks with nothing better to do than defend the undefendable.you know have the Club you deserve and you have each played your small part ..Well done..Do not even bother replying as from know on (you will be glad to hear) I will leave you to it,I wish you luck
 

peeler

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I'm strictly against SISU bashing, because it's a futile endeavour mostly...

...if they did actually 'do one', is the OP prepared for his club to be liquidated and cease to exist? It's the reality of such a situation - SISU are the life support of CCFC.

They cannot and will not 'do one', it's not in their interests. We need a buyer/investor with more money than business sense, but since those are scarce, we're pretty much lumbered with SISU until the day they cannot sustain the club any further.

Then prepare yourself for years and years of rubbish on and off the field. The club is going nowhere with SISU in charge because they don't give a damn.
 

Nick

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Then prepare yourself for years and years of rubbish on and off the field. The club is going nowhere with SISU in charge because they don't give a damn.

Sounds like they have something in common with you then.

#NOPM until we win and you can jump on the bandwagon.

(I will await the life story about supporting CCFC since you were 4 in 1942 and being there when we won a game 17-0 blah blah, or the story bragging about how your first visit to the Ricoh was to watch Wasps).
 

Nick

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Finally you have all woken up , no doubt out late celebrating a point at home against the mighty Oldham......I am no troll just a real fan that can think for himself, you slagging me off just proves what I am saying...blinkered small minded folks with nothing better to do than defend the undefendable.you know have the Club you deserve and you have each played your small part ..Well done..Do not even bother replying as from know on (you will be glad to hear) I will leave you to it,I wish you luck

Nobody was celebrating a point, in fact most people from what I can see here seem to agree the game was very strange yesterday. Even the most vocal people about SISU who were at the game were saying the same thing.

In fact, for once yesterday most people were in agreement about what happened on the pitch which rarely happens.

It is almost as if you have no idea what is happening on the pitch.
 

Silsden

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Finally you have all woken up , no doubt out late celebrating a point at home against the mighty Oldham......I am no troll just a real fan that can think for himself, you slagging me off just proves what I am saying...blinkered small minded folks with nothing better to do than defend the undefendable.you know have the Club you deserve and you have each played your small part ..Well done..Do not even bother replying as from know on (you will be glad to hear) I will leave you to it,I wish you luck
I think everyone is a bit pissed off today, and no-one is in the mood for your self satisfied smug shite. Go revel in City's misery in a pool of aids you cretin
 

peeler

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Sounds like they have something in common with you then.

#NOPM until we win and you can jump on the bandwagon.

(I will await the life story about supporting CCFC since you were 4 in 1942 and being there when we won a game 17-0 blah blah, or the story bragging about how your first visit to the Ricoh was to watch Wasps).

I believed the hype for a couple of game, stupid me, I should of known better.

Not any more Nick, I won't be going to the Ricoh to watch CCFC again until SISU have gone.

(I'm not that old, my first visit to the Ricoh was 20/08/2005 against QPR, my first City game was 1969 we only won 1-0)
 

trevelfarandwide

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Then prepare yourself for years and years of rubbish on and off the field. The club is going nowhere with SISU in charge because they don't give a damn.

I'm quite prepared, haha, don't get me wrong I detest them - I'm just realistic, mate. There's nothing that can be done about the club's owners, finances or climate, it's shit and it'll stay shit unless there's a buy-out or some serious investment. If SISU leave, the club ceases to exist - catch 22, of sorts.
 

Nick

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I believed the hype for a couple of game, stupid me, I should of known better.

Not any more Nick, I won't be going to the Ricoh to watch CCFC again until SISU have gone.

(I'm not that old, my first visit to the Ricoh was 20/08/2005 against QPR, my first City game was 1969 we only won 1-0)

It is ok, you will be back again at the sniff of glory (if we get one)

#NOPM until it's a big game, until then you can just support Wasps and gloat about it for some very strange reason. Sounds like the kid at school who keeps changing his football team to whoever is winning.

Interesting that you and "Alan" aren't commenting on the going's on at yesterday's match though. You can still do that you know.
 

Captain Dart

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I'm strictly against SISU bashing, because it's a futile endeavour mostly...

...if they did actually 'do one', is the OP prepared for his club to be liquidated and cease to exist? It's the reality of such a situation - SISU are the life support of CCFC.

They cannot and will not 'do one', it's not in their interests. We need a buyer/investor with more money than business sense, but since those are scarce, we're pretty much lumbered with SISU until the day they cannot sustain the club any further.

Bollocks to you, SISU OUT NOW! ;)

More seriously I don't believe SISU will liquidate, that scare story keeps being brought up, they're not the sort of people who asset strip & discard, their technique is to sell off assets, balance the books then sell on a profitable concern at a profit. How they're actually going to make money on this 'investment' in a reasonable time frame I don't see but they will definitely want to minimise losses and liquidation isn't one of the ways to do it. It worries me that they'll move the club to a position where the investors can take out £1M out a year and hang on for another decade while the club languishes in D3 or D4.
 

peeler

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It is ok, you will be back again at the sniff of glory (if we get one)

#NOPM until it's a big game, until then you can just support Wasps and gloat about it for some very strange reason. Sounds like the kid at school who keeps changing his football team to whoever is winning.

Interesting that you and "Alan" aren't commenting on the going's on at yesterday's match though. You can still do that you know.

That's because I didn't go, I'm not in a position to comment. I did listed to the radio, but that's not the same.

When I was a kid (70's), there was a lot of so called Chelsea, Leeds & Liverpool fans, I stuck with CCFC.
 

Nick

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That's because I didn't go, I'm not in a position to comment. I did listed to the radio, but that's not the same.

When I was a kid (70's), there was a lot of so called Chelsea, Leeds & Liverpool fans, I stuck with CCFC.

You can still comment listening on the radio though can't you? They give a general idea on what is going on.
 

hill83

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trevelfarandwide

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Bollocks to you, SISU OUT NOW! ;)

More seriously I don't believe SISU will liquidate, that scare story keeps being brought up, they're not the sort of people who asset strip & discard, their technique is to sell off assets, balance the books then sell on a profitable concern at a profit. How they're actually going to make money on this 'investment' in a reasonable time frame I don't see but they will definitely want to minimise losses and liquidation isn't one of the ways to do it. It worries me that they'll move the club to a position where the investors can take out £1M out a year and hang on for another decade while the club languishes in D3 or D4.

100% agree with that assessment, mate. This is probably what's going to become of our club, however all we can do is watch. The reality is heartbreaking.
 

peeler

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Bollocks to you, SISU OUT NOW! ;)

More seriously I don't believe SISU will liquidate, that scare story keeps being brought up, they're not the sort of people who asset strip & discard, their technique is to sell off assets, balance the books then sell on a profitable concern at a profit. How they're actually going to make money on this 'investment' in a reasonable time frame I don't see but they will definitely want to minimise losses and liquidation isn't one of the ways to do it. It worries me that they'll move the club to a position where the investors can take out £1M out a year and hang on for another decade while the club languishes in D3 or D4.

Yes this is what's happening, the only way the supporters can have any affect is to vote with their feet.

Mind you by providing rubbish on the field is making that decision easy for some, it's bordering on self destruction.
 

peeler

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Affect on the wage budget? As the club is the only thing that is damaged by it.

It's already damaged. Things will have to get a whole lot worse before they can get better. Stop giving SISU the money otherwise they will drag this on for another decade.

Anyways, I can't sit here arguing with you, I'm off out for the afternoon.
 

Nick

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It's already damaged. Things will have to get a whole lot worse before they can get better. Stop giving SISU the money otherwise they will drag this on for another decade.

Anyways, I can't sit here arguing with you, I'm off out for the afternoon.
Like you stopped until we started doing well? Ha

Don't come on here preaching your crap when you cave in with a sniff of success anyway.
 
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Bollocks to you, SISU OUT NOW! ;)

More seriously I don't believe SISU will liquidate, that scare story keeps being brought up, they're not the sort of people who asset strip & discard, their technique is to sell off assets, balance the books then sell on a profitable concern at a profit. How they're actually going to make money on this 'investment' in a reasonable time frame I don't see but they will definitely want to minimise losses and liquidation isn't one of the ways to do it. It worries me that they'll move the club to a position where the investors can take out £1M out a year and hang on for another decade while the club languishes in D3 or D4.

I respectfully disagree.

Not with the first sentence, of course. When it comes down to it all but the most mad would agree with that. My concern (which the most mad on t'other side misinterpret) is that we'll end up with an Elliott led replacement and/or CCC will attempt to manipulate a preferred owner into place, who will not be the best fit for CCFC, just the most malleable when it comes to CCC getting what *they* want. Anyway, can I nominate OSB, DazzleTommyDazzle, and duffer for the triumvirate to run our new fan-owned consortium?

Anyway, I digress...

Alas, t'internet changes. Alas, I don;t have access to the material I did when SISU took over so this is couched in woolly terms, and I hasten to add for the watching lawyers this is therefore a possible theory not fact, and of course SISU are stellar types ;)

Anyway, I recall when they came in, doing a spot of research and alighting upon a story about an entity who, if not SISU, were just like SISU in their initial setup. They'd taken over a failing business in France, with the same aims as SISU taking over CCFC - the hope to turn it around and sell at a profit. Initially they were welcomed, and initially they did try to turn it around but, the intrinsic damage from previous regimes was too deep. So, they got together with their local council to try some alternative strategies. These failed too. Then, suddenly, the company turned against their local council. This baffled the local council but they decided to give ground as the business was good for jobs in the area.

However, these strategies failed too... and then the business was wound up.

The town was left with an empty factory, and holes in its finances from trying to help out. The net result is disaster.

Right now, I bookend this by saying this is an example poorly recollected, and *I am sure this is not SISU, and will not relate to our current situation in anything but a shoddy analogy*

However... I absolutely believe it's in SISU's interests to liquidate if things fail. Their negotiating strategy is that there is a consequence if they don't get what they want - hence the move to Northampton. To liquidate shows that, and helps them when negotiating elsewhere.

Notwithstanding that, they're not going to get the value for Ryton if/when they sell, so they may as well sell it separately. With zero other assets at the club other than their league position (how valuable is this really if nothing else comes with it? How much would you pay to preserve just this? I'd wager less than it's worth SISU to just flog every training bib they own) and their heritage (we did this last night) then I'd say liquidation is a very real possiility once this all plays out - not just for the immediate financial return, but the wider context.

We look at it with CCFC jaundiced eyes. To the outsider, objectively... many of the assumptions one would make about football clubs have been challenged by us over the recent years - not least just how embedded a club is in its wider community (not the hardcore).
 

Sky Blue Kid

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You can still comment listening on the radio though can't you? They give a general idea on what is going on.


Changing your tune Nick! Listening on the radio doesn't make him, me, or anyone that doesn't go to games a "Superfan" like you and some others so mustn't give comment on the team, or Club situation.
 

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