Jacob Murphy (1 Viewer)

PVA · Nov 1, 2015

This guy gets so much stick it's ridiculous.

People need to realise that he's not going to be consistently great for 90 minutes every week otherwise he wouldn't be playing in league 1.

I haven't checked the stats but he has the most assists in the squad by some distance, he must be on at least 5 or 6 I would have thought.

He's comfortably one of our best players.

shmmeee · Nov 1, 2015

Yep. Mowbray was right to leave him on because he can always do that. Same reason you don't pull Armstrong off even of he's barely touched the ball.

The stick he got was disgusting yesterday. Would take going back to Sixfields level crowds if it meant we could get rid of some of the dickheads.

shmmeee · Nov 1, 2015

He needs some love Tuesday night. Have we got a song for him?

I_Saw_Shaw_Score · Nov 1, 2015

I don't agree with the booing of players but my days his 'effort' in the first 45 minutes was pathetic. Players have bad games I can live with that but the lack of trying & I wouldn't even say he was hiding just not interested was insulting to watch.

Otis · Nov 1, 2015

Mowbray knows exactly what he's doing. We should have trust in our manager. He knows when to play him, when to bring him off and when to introduce him as a substitute.

The guy has bags of skill, but he will be hit and miss. If he played llike he can do every time he was on the pitch he wouldn't be here.

He's frustrating at times, but the last thing we should be doing is getting on his back.

Deleted member 5849 · Nov 1, 2015

I_Saw_Shaw_Score said:
I don't agree with the booing of players.

Yep, my own view is encourage them on the day, but afterwards why not point out what they need to do to get better, otherwise well, what's the point of blind faith?

That said, there was always a place for a Moussa and Murphy is this season's Moussa. It is however fair to say that a player like Murphy wouldn't suddenly become motivated by being allowed to get away with not trying game after game.

I suspect he may not start Tuesday.

shmmeee · Nov 1, 2015

Deleted member 5849 said:
Yep, my own view is encourage them on the day, but afterwards why not point out what they need to do to get better, otherwise well, what's the point of blind faith?

That said, there was always a place for a Moussa and Murphy is this season's Moussa. It is however fair to say that a player like Murphy wouldn't suddenly become motivated by being allowed to get away with not trying game after game.

I suspect he may not start Tuesday.

For me, for the 90 minutes of the game your job as a supporter is to be supportive.

Anyway, it's Mowbray not us whose job is to give feedback. If he's "allowed to get away with it" it's by him not us.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Nov 1, 2015

shmmeee said:
He needs some love Tuesday night. Have we got a song for him?

He plays on the left, he plays on the right
Jacob Murphy, he makes you look shite!

Rating out of 10?

Deleted member 5849 · Nov 1, 2015

shmmeee said:
If he's "allowed to get away with it" it's by him not us.

Indeed.

Nowt wrong with pointing out his flaws on here though. Same as Fleck really, really needs to start scoring some goals, Phillips needs to work on his defensive play etc. and yep even Armstrong, despite the goals, probably needs to be able to impose himself on games more regularly too if he wants his top flight place. They're not perfect, that's why they're with us, but it'd be nice if they became a little more perfect while with us.

That's not the same as the day itself though, when you encourage Phillips to get forward, encourage him if he makes a mistake, and let him know he can turn it around and try and give him the confidence in the game that he's got people behind him.

Otis · Nov 1, 2015

CCFC said:
He plays on the left, he plays on the right
Jacob Murphy, he makes you look shite!

Rating out of 10?

Not bad.

And for the more intellectual types:

He plays on the right, he plays on the left
Jacob Murphy, he leaves you bereft!

covcity4life · Nov 1, 2015

8 or 9 assists this season I think

stupot07 · Nov 1, 2015

covcity4life said:
8 or 9 assists this season I think

5 according to espn.

http://www.espnfc.co.uk/player/172836/jacob-murphy

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covcity4life · Nov 1, 2015

Hmm that sounds too low

Off top of my head

Southend corner for ricketts
2 yday vs pboro
Pass to tudgay vs Burton
Swindon won pen for tudgay goal

Sure there's more. Maybe not

Astute · Nov 1, 2015

IIRC Murphy is only 20. Miles away from home. Still learning his trade. We have got him because he is not the finished article. We can't expect him to be MOTM all game every game. But he certainly gives us something we need.

He needs us to help him. Just like we need him to help us. And getting on his back all the time is not helping.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Nov 1, 2015

He played Thomas in for the Fleetwood goal as well
And he played Armstrong in for the goal against Chesterfield

stupot07 · Nov 1, 2015

I don't think pens are included as assists. And technically Tudguy didn't score from the pen

But according to that link.

2x Peterborough
1x Chesterfield
1x Burton
1x Southend.

5 is still impressive (from 14 appearances), seems to remember our leading role assister got 5 across the whole season last year,

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SkyBlue_Bear83 · Nov 1, 2015

stupot07 said:
I don't think pens are included as assists. And technically Tudguy didn't score from the pen

But according to that link.

2x Peterborough
1x Chesterfield
1x Burton
1x Southend.

5 is still impressive (from 14 appearances), seems to remember our leading role assister got 5 across the whole season last year,

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Yea, he also pretty much got an assist in the Fleetwood match as well but don't think it counts because Thomas didn't directly score

stupot07 · Nov 1, 2015

CCFC said:
Yea, he also pretty much got an assist in the Fleetwood match as well but don't think it counts because Thomas didn't directly score

That's correct, Thomas will probably have the assist.

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covcity4life · Nov 1, 2015

Forget silly rules I say. He asisted chesterfield Fleetwood and Swindon. 8 assist!

skybluejelly · Nov 1, 2015

Astute said:
IIRC Murphy is only 20. Miles away from home. Still learning his trade. We have got him because he is not the finished article. We can't expect him to be MOTM all game every game. But he certainly gives us something we need.

He needs us to help him. Just like we need him to help us. And getting on his back all the time is not helping.

Mowbray said pretty much the same thing in his interview afterwards .. That he is only young , living on his own and like all wingers blows hot and cold

Grendel · Nov 1, 2015

skybluejelly said:
Mowbray said pretty much the same thing in his interview afterwards .. That he is only young , living on his own and like all wingers blows hot and cold

Yet Lameires gets far less stick and his 45 minute cameo was shambolic. He won't be playing Tuesday

matesx · Nov 1, 2015

Otis said:
Not bad.

And for the more intellectual types:

He plays on the right, he plays on the left
Jacob Murphy, he leaves you bereft!

lol!

stupot07 · Nov 1, 2015

covcity4life said:
Forget silly rules I say. He asisted chesterfield Fleetwood and Swindon. 8 assist!

You mean 7

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skyblue94 · Nov 1, 2015

Murphy is a young lad and is by no means the finished article. Yesterday was a perfect example of how brilliant he is for us and how frustrating he can be. Personally, I dont care if he looses the ball taking the full backs on, its refreshing to finally have players in our team who will dare to do that, something we've been bereft of for years. The frustration with Murphy in 1st half for me was his corners where i think 4/6 didnt make it past the first man, and his effort when not in possession to get in to a challenge.
He's one of our most important players and given time with Mowbray coaching him, sure he will become more more consistent.

covcity4life · Nov 1, 2015

stupot07 said:
You mean 7
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Lol knew you would pick up on that!

shmmeee · Nov 1, 2015

2nd in the Assists table. For a wide player, that's all that needs to be said, surely?

Buster · Nov 1, 2015

He really was average in the first half. Wouldn't criticise him for his lack of skill certainly for this lack of effort and chasing back . As paying customers I think we are entitled to get a little disgruntled at players that don't give their best . Players that turn up for half a game don't get you promoted . But he is a young man and will perhaps learn . That being said abuse and booing is out of order

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Nov 1, 2015

Otis said:
Not bad.

And for the more intellectual types:

He plays on the right, he plays on the left
Jacob Murphy, he leaves you bereft!

You saying I'm not intellectual

hiddenskyblue · Nov 1, 2015

Grendel said:
Yet Lameires gets far less stick and his 45 minute cameo was shambolic. He won't be playing Tuesday

Lameiras was hardly shambolic in the first half, Fortune and Murphy in the first half were shambolic though.

KG7 · Nov 1, 2015

Agree with the OP. It's clear from pretty much every game he's p,aged this season that Murphy comes into his own in the final third of a game when people are tiring. However, what he is good at for the whole game is moving the team up the pitch and putting the opposition the back foot. yes, he often gets tackled / runs down blind alleys in the first half but he takes the pressure off our defence and tires their defence out in the process. Our supporters really have a lot to learn about how to read the game and support the team. Negativity spreads and people repeat each other, so if one person shouts out mindlessly other people internalise it and it leads to vilification.

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SlowerThanPlatt · Nov 1, 2015

This site has Murphy down for 4 assists (may not have been updated yet for yesterday's games?)

Maddison has 3 in 3 games.

http://www.worldfootball.net/assists/eng-league-one-2015-2016/

ccfc92 · Nov 1, 2015

SlowerThanPlatt said:
This site has Murphy down for 4 assists (may not have been updated yet for yesterday's games?)

Maddison has 3 in 3 games.

http://www.worldfootball.net/assists/eng-league-one-2015-2016/

When is Maddison due back?

shmmeee · Nov 1, 2015

ccfc92 said:
When is Maddison due back?

I hope it's sooner than my Football Manager game!

sw88 · Nov 1, 2015

He's a very frustrating player. But like Kent, although he may have more than the one trick Kent has!

Both have the ability. We've seen it in short stints. They just don't turn up for 90 minutes unfortunately.

Great_Expectations · Nov 1, 2015

Personally, I don't agree with booing/jeering individuals during the match. I'm not against booing the team collectively i.e. HT. As fans we still portray our dissatisfaction, without destroying the confidence of individuals.

Then again, I don't agree with cheering opposition players when they score again us. Even if they are Coventry "legends", maybe I'm not in touch with those real (one game a season) supporters.

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