Jordan Clarke supports fans (2 Viewers)

Covcity4life, you're one heck of a class human being. So, everything that people say about you is true.

Nick, the way the club is being run, there is every likelihood the players will be on the scrapheap regardless. As I said, united together the staff can put pressure on.
Sometimes you have to have principles.

Spionkop said:

Nick, the way the club is being run, there is every likelihood the players will be on the scrapheap regardless. As I said, united together the staff can put pressure on.
Sometimes you have to have principles.

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There are having principles and not being able to pay your bills though and putting your family at risk? Very easy to say that we won't go to games, but it's not as easy to get away with not paying your mortgage / rent....

Spionkop said:

Covcity4life, you're one heck of a class human being. So, everything that people say about you is true.

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Why is that Nick?.....SISU got away with it for over a year. And Nick!.....Do some research on "PFA" players strike in '96.....Over 90% of Pro players voted to take strike action...Go figure!

It is curious that whenever there is any show of strength of feeling behind the principles at stake the usual wankers pour scorn on the ideas and initiative.

Full marks to Jordan Clarke.

He is only expressing his feelings which any decent person could empathise with.

Keep Cov in Cov

The "PFA" can have democratic voting(Like any other union) and are required to do the wishes of a Majority vote.

Well call me Mr Cynical, but the threatened strike of 1996 was all about cold hard cash.....the PFA wanting to ensure their already over-flowing coffers were topped up with a slice of the SKY pie...so they balloted all the lower league clubs playing staff......funnily enough, the PL players didn't seem to give a shiny shit...

...I can't see too many players being to arsed if a 3rd division club they have nothing to do with is heading down the shitter (or to Northants) or not.....not when there is Xbox & golf to play & wags to chase....

Mr Cynical....Ex pro players even "Kenny Sansom" get a pension paid out by...Err, umm, let me see now.......The "PFA"... They have an obligation to their past and present players to "Look after them" The "PFA" also help recently retired players to start in new ventures ie own business, training in accountancy etc. The premiership players know if the lower league teams go out of business, it will affect them as well. Take away the bricks at the bottom of the pyramid and the top falls down!

Mr Cynical....Ex pro players even "Kenny Sansom" get a pension paid out by...Err, umm, let me see now.......The "PFA"... They have an obligation to their past and present players to "Look after them" The "PFA" also help recently retired players to start in new ventures ie own business, training in accountancy etc. The premiership players know if the lower league teams go out of business, it will affect them as well. Take away the bricks at the bottom of the pyramid and the top falls down!

In addition to the quantitative increase in membership, the additional member services that the PFA enhanced and developed throughout the 1980s and 1990s characterises a qualitative growth. For instance, in 1985 a joint initiative between the PFA and the Football League to provide a private contributory pension scheme for all full-time professional footballers was started, known as the PFA/Football League Players’ Retirement Income Scheme. Following this, the Footballers’ Further Education and Vocational Training Scheme (FFE+VTS) was initiated in 1986. This is one of the three welfare schemes the PFA operates. The additional two are the Benevolent Fund that provides grants to members or former members needing financial assistance, and the Accident Insurance Fund, which assists former players experiencing medical difficulties due to a previous injury during their career (Waddington, 1998: 32). In 1986, Football in the Community was formed by the FFE+VTS. 90 professional clubs in the Football League and 10 clubs from the Nationwide Conference have community schemes that offer a wide range of sports and social based activities supported by the PFA as it is incorporated as a separate registered charity and the PFA allocates an annual funding budget. In 1989 the financial department of the PFA - PFA Financial Management Limited - was established. Further assistance is provided to players contemplating a post-football career through PFA Coaching, which formed in 1994 to offer all members the opportunity to gain formal coaching qualifications. In addition to the development of these services, PFA Enterprises, the commercial department of the union has been in existence since 1972 and generates revenue through partnerships with organisations such as Adidas and Sky Sports. Nevertheless, in spite of these supplementary services, the central role of the PFA has not changed. The core division of the union, set up in 1907, still provides industrial representation to its members......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................This is just a fraction of written work on the "PFA"

In addition to the quantitative increase in membership, the additional member services that the PFA enhanced and developed throughout the 1980s and 1990s characterises a qualitative growth. For instance, in 1985 a joint initiative between the PFA and the Football League to provide a private contributory pension scheme for all full-time professional footballers was started, known as the PFA/Football League Players’ Retirement Income Scheme. Following this, the Footballers’ Further Education and Vocational Training Scheme (FFE+VTS) was initiated in 1986. This is one of the three welfare schemes the PFA operates. The additional two are the Benevolent Fund that provides grants to members or former members needing financial assistance, and the Accident Insurance Fund, which assists former players experiencing medical difficulties due to a previous injury during their career (Waddington, 1998: 32). In 1986, Football in the Community was formed by the FFE+VTS. 90 professional clubs in the Football League and 10 clubs from the Nationwide Conference have community schemes that offer a wide range of sports and social based activities supported by the PFA as it is incorporated as a separate registered charity and the PFA allocates an annual funding budget. In 1989 the financial department of the PFA - PFA Financial Management Limited - was established. Further assistance is provided to players contemplating a post-football career through PFA Coaching, which formed in 1994 to offer all members the opportunity to gain formal coaching qualifications. In addition to the development of these services, PFA Enterprises, the commercial department of the union has been in existence since 1972 and generates revenue through partnerships with organisations such as Adidas and Sky Sports. Nevertheless, in spite of these supplementary services, the central role of the PFA has not changed. The core division of the union, set up in 1907, still provides industrial representation to its members......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................This is just a fraction of written work on the "PFA"

Well done to Jordan, but in the back of my mind is always the same question.. what action would they actually take. Most have families, mortgages like the rest of us. Pretty scary to say I'm on strike, you need real resolve, and the backing of the PFA to stand any chance of success. Just wonder what sort of stuff our players are made of?

Nick, why have my posts doubled?

Sky Blue Kid said:

Nick, why have my posts doubled?

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Sausage fingers

Suppose it's better than having "Shit for Brains eh?"

Nick, Sky Blue Up North, see what you are saying, but how long do you think a refusal by the whole City playing staff and backroom to not play at Northampton would take to bring about a rethink? It would, in all likelihood, be one game. Imagine the uproar. It hasn't happened in England for a very long time. So those striking players wouldn't be wageless for very long would they. Are Sisu then going to sack the whole playing staff? No, one game is all it would take. The pack of cards would come tumbling down. The FL wouldn't like it one bit.
Drastic measures needed.

Sky Blue Kid said:

Suppose it's better than having "Shit for Brains eh?"

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Depends which one is the biggest burden on your life fella.

Thought you were talking about yourself...Fella!

Spionkop said:

Nick, Sky Blue Up North, see what you are saying, but how long do you think a refusal by the whole City playing staff and backroom to not play at Northampton would take to bring about a rethink? It would, in all likelihood, be one game. Imagine the uproar. It hasn't happened in England for a very long time. So those striking players wouldn't be wageless for very long would they. Are Sisu then going to sack the whole playing staff? No, one game is all it would take. The pack of cards would come tumbling down. The FL wouldn't like it one bit.
Drastic measures needed.

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I'm not disputing that, but do they have the bottle was my question...

Sky Blue Kid said:

Thought you were talking about yourself...Fella!

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I was. You've got your copy & paste to sort you out. So you're clearly a scholar.

I was saying in another thread that players with a personal attachment to the club should come out and say something ie oggy, offers were if the opinion they shouldn't, at least this kid has some backbone not like a lot of the spineless fans and people working at the club, him saying that is first class.

Sky Blue Kid said:

Thought you were talking about yourself...Fella!

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wassup ccfc4l.....No reply to my post from earlier?

Nick....Why are you editting my posts?

Sky Blue Kid said:

Nick....Why are you editting my posts?

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Paranoid

Sky Blue Kid said:

Nick....Why are you editting my posts?

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Because it was offensive....

skybluesam66 said:

sisu would love that - no wage bill, and we would see fisher at centre forward

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And he would blame ACL for missing a penalty because they have made him play on a bobbly pitch.

covcity4life said:

they would just find 11 acemedy kids to cotninue the season

and the boycotting players would like be blacklisted as what chairman wants to buy such volatile precious players?

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Any chairman who puts his club before profits. I do not believe any club would have an issue with the players standing up to such awful conditions that our team are having to put up with. Play before 300 fans in a shed of a ground or go back to your home town and play in a state of the art ground front of minimum 8-10000 every game. I know where I would rather play

PS as far as I recall not one of the team signed their contracts to play in Northampton but in the City of Coventry.

skybluehugh said:

PS as far as I recall not one of the team signed their contracts to play in Northampton but in the City of Coventry.

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Parp. I signed my contract to be with a company. Not their location. Sniffle

hill83 said:

Parp. I signed my contract to be with a company. Not their location. Sniffle

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which company?
the one which owns the GS
so they can do what they like.

hill83 said:

Parp. I signed my contract to be with a company. Not their location. Sniffle

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So when you signed your contract to work in Coventry and your boss says you either move with us up to Northampton or your fired you would be happy would you. Of course you would.

hill83 said:

Parp. I signed my contract to be with a company. Not their location. Sniffle

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So your company could relocate anywhere then could they and you would have to go?

Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:

So your company could relocate anywhere then could they and you would have to go?

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I am afraid that happens all the time in Tory Britain, you have very few rights if a company close their factory, office, depot etc... you have to go where the work is.