I’m not a fan at all of him or his dad but that doesn’t mean I can’t spot a flaw in someone’s argument ….
Josh Eccles (2 Viewers)
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Terry_dactyl
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What you got against Josh Eccles’ dad?
Offhegoes
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Some brilliant performances last season . Wolves away being one of them. He needs to drive forward more, but great tackler, and sound passer. One of those players who will improve season upon season.
Did a commendable job at RWB too.
if we’re away from home in a. tricky fixture (Leeds, WBA , Luton etc) he always starts for me.
Did a commendable job at RWB too.
if we’re away from home in a. tricky fixture (Leeds, WBA , Luton etc) he always starts for me.
Perennial Lurker
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Totally agree , I think he will be the ideal pivot in a 3 with Rudoni and Sheaf/Torp slightly ahead of him
Matt smith
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Rudoni/Torp be on corners
Perennial Lurker
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His role in the team isn't one that demands goals , look at the likes of Kante , Busquets and others in his position. And before anyone chirps up I'm not comparing him to them .
And I also would hope to see him nowhere near another corner
fernandopartridge
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The first break is the one that matters though
Saddlebrains
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I think Eccles is our most improved player by a mile. He's came on leaps and bounds and now doesn't look out of place at all
A very good championship midfielder
Saying that however, we won't get Autos with him starting every game. He still has a lot to improve on with his transition and carrying of the ball, and that's why I feel we were looking at Stamenic,and will see another midfielder come in
A very good championship midfielder
Saying that however, we won't get Autos with him starting every game. He still has a lot to improve on with his transition and carrying of the ball, and that's why I feel we were looking at Stamenic,and will see another midfielder come in
blunted
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Agreed, but like Sheaf and Palmer gets chances from outside the box and often misses the target, or shots end up easy saves for the goalie. O'Hare was the same before his injury. Allen had a better eye for goal before his injury problems last season. Jodi Jones was exactly the same, then he seemed to have got the memo before his unfortunate injuries.
better days
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Not many players of his kind about now
He'll be getting noticed for sure
Perennial Lurker
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He's Mr.Consistent , a 7 out of 10 every week if not higher
Hobo
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I think he has more potential than Ben Sheaf and I rate Ben Sheaf highly..
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I think he'll only get it when he leaves.
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He has more natural ability than Sheaf and like you i really rate Sheaf. I think he will go further in the game than Sheaf.
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MusicDating
Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
I'm sure some of our fans would moan if we had Kante...'He didn't do much'...'he's always passing it sideways/backwards'...
fernandopartridge
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Some fans don't seem to realise that if you want your ball players to make progressive passes you need somebody to win it back off the opposition sometimes
BlueSkiesForever
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What you looking at me for?
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DeBruyne plays a lot of passes sideways and backwards. Our fans would be yelling forward at him. Only Wright had more assists than Eccles last season and Eccles was our deepest lying midfielder.
BlueSkiesForever
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Whoa whoa whoa. I didn’t want to be tempted in to bashing Eccles again but you’ve got a nibble from me with that
We can’t go down this road of using De Bruyne as a yardstick for what our fans would be saying if we owned him. There is a monumental difference between what KDB does outside of passing sideways and what Eccles does outside of passing sideways. KDB has an insane shot on him, he can take great corners/free kicks, his skill at crossing from deep is unbelievable and his movement and getting into pockets of space is brilliant. I’d argue Eccles has none of those attributes, even at championship level.
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It was quite obvious I wasn't saying Eccles is anyway near DeBruyne level and DeBruyne isn't even a holding midfielder.Whoa whoa whoa. I didn’t want to be tempted in to bashing Eccles again but you’ve got a nibble from me with that
BlueSkiesForever
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I know you’re not saying Eccles is as good as KDB, obviously, but you said if we owned KDB then Cov fans would be complaining about his sideways passing. My point is that Eccles doesn’t do enough outside of sideways passing to make up for it, the reason people don’t moan about KDB passing sideways is because he shoots, creates chances, always looks for that threatening pass, has confidence and has good movement. Eccles rarely does any of that and that’s my main issue with him, yes he’s a more defensive player but just because you’re playing in a more defensive role doesn’t mean you can’t try something ambitious or get forward or shoot from time to time.
I think Eccles is a great player to have in our squad but like @Saddlebrains said earlier I don’t think starting him week in week out is a good thing. I’ve got zero evidence for this but I do wonder if there’s a bit of a confidence issue with him, just needs to be a bit less cautious at times, look for that killer pass and try pulling it off every now and again.
clint van damme
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Jesus, you don't half chat shit
BlueSkiesForever
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Come on Clint we’ve had a good run of not bickering at each other for a while now, I’m quite happy keeping it that way tbh
clint van damme
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Stop chatting shit then!Come on Clint we’ve had a good run of not bickering at each other for a while now, I’m quite happy keeping it that way tbh
Or at least keep it to a paragraph like the rest of us!
BlueSkiesForever
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I don’t feel like any of that is shit though
Eccles doesn’t do enough outside of passing sideways and his defensive duties, just not ambitious is enough, if he could improve that aspect of his game he’d be an amazing player.
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)Perennial Lurker
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So he had more assists than the rest of the squad apart from Wright last season?I don’t feel like any of that is shit though
Eccles doesn’t do enough outside of passing sideways and his defensive duties, just not ambitious is enough, if he could improve that aspect of his game he’d be an amazing player.
(Tried to keep that one shorter for you
Was that ambitious enough for you ?
Hobo
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I don’t feel like any of that is shit though
Eccles doesn’t do enough outside of passing sideways and his defensive duties, just not ambitious is enough, if he could improve that aspect of his game he’d be an amazing player.
(Tried to keep that one shorter for you
I think it depends on the role he is given. You can't have all your midfield bombing forward. Sometimes you need someone to sit and hold back.
But when he does get forward he often puts good intelligent balls into the box. It may not always find a target, but what he does do is work the defenders. Something we don't do enough, especially JDS.
If you make the CB's play the ball you often get possession back, build pressure you force errors. How many OG's have there been in the Euros? Turn defenders and force CB's to play the ball facing their own goal and mistakes happen.
His corner taking isn't as bad as some people make out as we scored a few off them. He lacks consistency with them and Hamer was consistently good..
Both Sheaf and Eccles get in good positions on the edge of the box but then lack composure. It doesn't mean they can't improve on it.
I think you are right at times Eccles needs more confidence but Mark Robins said, "He can be anything he wants to be."
Eccles has some great skills and can take the ball out of the air and into his stride with one touch, as well as anyone at the club.